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These fools need sum killin.

And I doubt they will stay that way when the battleships floating above the cities decide to open fire.


Oh yep unless there was an little accident that could happen if they did do that XD
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@Wildman13 You said you were doing a collab with Legion02, right?
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@Wildman13 You said you were doing a collab with Legion02, right?


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Excuse my rude attitude and somewhat violent reaction when I say, DAAAAAMN THAT IS NASTY! That is some pretty potent stuff you're suggesting to use in the RP, it would be interesting and developing tactics against what is essentially a reanimating fungus is going to be difficult, especially since the use of biological weapons would make it hard to confront your race in any head-on assault, any projectile that reaches any of our ships would technically render the entire ship a health risk, especially if the projectile penetrates the hull (Unlikely to happen but it can happen).


I suppose this is technically true, but even in today's society there are procedures for combating bio-hazardous outbreaks, and rampant bio-weapon pathogens, that are more creative than quarantine and more aggressive than cultivating a herd immunity. If this character were a chess piece I would say it's the knight (moves in weird L shapes) and requires very indirect thinking to both play, and play against.

The spore infection is not instantiations, and success is not guaranteed upon first contact, and is as a result is not something that's just carelessly bandied about. The more it's deployed in circumstances outside the Great Web's control, the more likely it is for the humans to capture a sample and begin working on a counter agent (that would require the great web to counter). To date its effectiveness is has been determined more by the care in which it has been used than its innate characteristics.

If it comes to the use of a chemical attack (which the Perennials are prone to do) then it wouldn't be the spore infection they'd shot your ship full of. It'd be a neurotoxin, or a paralytic, or any number of other 'conventional' biological weapons.

Just a question, cause I've seen there is a diplomatic element in your race, would they be open to a diplomatic discussion if approached by any of our alien compatriots, or by the Human resistance which is basically a carbon copy of the Black Knights from Code Geass but with a few changed elements.


Yes. That's why there are three different types of listed contacts that serve as forms of diplomats. Gretchen (the direct diplomat) Alalia Wallice (Spyamaster), and Myriam 'Mac' Mackenzie (indirect contact). There are several avenues of negotiation available through leaders in this society because it is built heavily upon espionage and reconnaissance. That is because they are very much in a "watch and learn" phase of development.

Because as I understand it, a continued existence for all races would be in your best interest, if your race works the way I understand it to work, which is consume bio matter and integrate it into the whole as it works with different levels of integration as some sort of caste, if that is how it works, then there could be some arrangement that works for the benefit of the whole of any one of our organizations. (Correct me if I'm wrong)


This is also true. Consider the extreme (and unlikely) scenario that the species were to consume and integrate everything in the universe. Like any other plague it would, eventually, burn through all its hosts and then fall from ascension (because there's no sentient hosts left propping it up). This is not a desirable outcome, and so it's not a thing that just runs rampant.

I already have an idea that might seem of interest however it might be somewhat difficult since I still need to read it again and analyze it more than a few times for a deeper understanding of everything.


It's supposed to be difficult for more for myself than those I'm playing with. For me RP is a matter of challenging myself intellectually. As an unavoidable consequence others will be challenged as well. It's my hope that such an experience may help enrich the players and story I'm involved in. It's a philosophy of tabletop gaming I've developed as DM that I've basically taken with me everywhere else.

However I think you need to explain your race better. I don't fully understand them or their ambitions, which is fun for the RP, but a real headache as a GM.


What specific details would you like me to expand upon? Simply the ambitions, or is there some other aspect of governance you would like to see fleshed out as well?

As for ambition I consider the race to be in its infancy. To begin with its core ambition is to carve out a place to call its own while it comes to understand all the very very alien cultures that surround it. There are several ways it can come to understand them but in short it's a non-human race that thinks and behaves in non-human ways trying to understand and exist in a universe mostly dominated by humans. It's difficult to put that in a box. So, instead, I'll try explaining how and why each Perennial Prime is a prime and what affect that they've had on the great web thus far.

Aria Summers - The Grand Matron (Priestess)
One of the first humans consumed by The Great Web (that does not possess the genetic abnormalities that they have been targeting) became a member by giving herself unto it. She brought with her some very 'hippie' philosophies of live, and let live. To peacefully coexists and be be one with nature. This has given the Great Web an understanding that it can coexist with humans but her willingness to become a part of nature has been a bit misleading for the Great Web as it does not accurately represent the motivations of all humans. Evangelicals proclaim that humans are temporary. Ethereal. And that (individually) their souls are more important than their meat.

To an evangelical humans are engines of war, and of peace, depending on what wrong needs righting if any.

Alalia Wallice - Marketing Specialist (Spymaster)
Rather than being a psychologist, sociologist, or some other student of the mind the Great Web has taken on a Marketing Specialist. Marketing is very much the manner by which humans see other humans and understand them on a way that few others do. Unfortunately for humans the average Marking Specialist takes a fairly grim view of humanity, and the Great Web is not so biased (by being human) as to care how unflattering the picture is. Marketing, and Evangelicals who believe their own doctrine, both possess and train similar skills with two obviously different perspectives.

Marketing sees people as commodities and the source of money: engines of industry.

Dr. Xaith Calhound
Simulating human intelligence is not something the Great Web itself can do and that is the specialty of this Complexity Theorist. Dr. Calhound's experiments and creations require a hard, unemotional, and unbiased look at humanity for what it is and the Great Web could not ask for a better source of information. For as much as the other Human Primes do to interact with the societies of the humans, and their population, this human helps the Great Web postulate on what it means to be human.

While the good doctor is not a point of contact for the humans to interact with the Great Web, he is none the less an important link to the humans for the Great Web.

Gretchen Gravage - Colonist (Diplomat Prime)
A woman of humble beginning, Gretchen has become the fruit of the the other three human's experiences and philosophy. By herself she's an unassuming old woman, and nearly an empty shell. As a Prime she's been filled up with--and built up as--the Perennials' ideal human. While on a galactic scale she's little more than a sock puppet, she serves as a gauge for what the Great Web considers humans to be. When humans interact with her and find her disconcerting that is because there is a discrepancy between what they think they are, and what the Great Web thinks they are. Because the Uncanny Valley is a thing, there will always be discrepancies.

In short, because the species is so alien, humans are equally alien to them. And since the worlds that have humans so vastly outnumber the worlds with Perennials they need to first understand what it is before they can decide to take action on it. Other than that I expect their motivations to develop more based on what the humans do and how they interact in the RP.
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Well I look forward to meeting your indirect contact, seeing as my main character has the same line of work as the spy master you have there, if there's anything Spy masters can do it's to find other spies.

Another question tugging on my mind is, can the perennials pick and choose who to affect and change if for example you filled a room with perennial spores and you want one individual out of say seven to be spared of changes the perennials could simply not do the change, and if not is there a chance that the individual will retain their individuality or to go a step further as to have a symbiotic relationship as host and symbiot?
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Well I look forward to meeting your indirect contact, seeing as my main character has the same line of work as the spy master you have there, if there's anything Spy masters can do it's to find other spies.
Nice. But, do remember that the spymaster is made of wholly human material. The spores in her register more as a highly virulent (yet oddly dormant) infection than anything else.

Another question tugging on my mind is, can the perennials pick and choose who to affect and change if for example you filled a room with perennial spores and you want one individual out of say seven to be spared of changes the perennials could simply not do the change, and if not is there a chance that the individual will retain their individuality or to go a step further as to have a symbiotic relationship as host and symbiot?


Both yes and no. If you fill a room of people with spores those spores are going to get into those peoples systems. That's the no part. The yes part is that the Great Web can choose whom to activate the spores in. So just because a person is exposed to the spores doesn't mean that that person is going to become a Perennial. Spores that remain dormant are simply, and eventually, filtered out of the system without incident like any other pollen. If exposed to the spores, but the spores are not activated, there's literally no change in the person.

This is part of how the spores have remained incognito for so long. It is inevitable that the spores will come into contact with people that the Great Web just doesn't want them to and so they remain as innocuous as possible in those people. Usually, a doctor would need be looking for them in order to find them if the Great Web doesn't want them to be found.

Any specific type of the relationship requires the Great Web to create spores of that type. For example: Gretchen and Myriam were exposed to different strains of the Spore. The Spore is, like the Perennials themselves, not just one kind of organism. It's custom tailored to fit the need. If, for your example, the group of seven is exposed to a general purpose thrall spore (that makes basic mindless zombies) and the Great Web wants one of those people to have a symbiotic relationship that you describe, the most likely outcome is that none of the spores would activate. Especially if the room in question was outside of the Great Web's control.
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@LegionPothIX Okay, You have managed to answer some of my questions. However there is one thing I am not a 100% sure about (and don't judge me): your race is nothing more than spores that get into toher living beings, and then affect them like the mind controlling fungi that target ants. The difference is that the whole lotta you form a network which is now sentient, and that you can choose to activate the spores in a human to take control of them if you wish to.

This is how I see it. Please correct me if I am wrong.

@Wildman13 I am not sure what I am seeing. Your new race (like, why?) wants more money and built up a whole business around slavery and control their own little black market assets...but then they want to bring in anarchy which would destroy this and lay waste to everything they've done.

Why don't you just go for a crime syndicate XD
I mean, this faction isn't bad, but in all honesty I see no point in their motives and therefore I don't see how they came to be. I could go for a galactic mafia who sells slaves. But certainly not if it's lead by anarchists.

But what do you guys think? If you like the idea then I'll give it the greenlight.
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There is one thing I am not a 100% sure about: your race is nothing more than spores that get into together living beings, and then effect them like the mind controlling fungi that target ants. The difference is that the whole lotta you form a network which is now sentient, and that you can choose to activate the spores in a human to take control of them if you wish to.

This is how I see it. Please correct me if I am wrong.


Like a normal fungus the spore is just the method of reproduction. The Perennials as a race are the collection of things the spore has infected. Once infected the spores mature and grow complete fungal systems inside a host and convert them into a creature befitting the name Perennial. This need not always represent itself as a total conversion, or require total mind control as you list in your examples, but functions in that manner.

I think the part you're getting hung up on is "The Spore" which is as much a name for many different kinds of spores and sub-species of fungal spores as 'the Perennial' is a collection of many species of fungi. In almost every case so far every xeno and alien species has been a single species that has ascended to dominance: the human being the chief among them.

This is not the case of "The Perennial" who use "The Spore" to reproduce. Those words are titles for an idea within the culture of the species rather than an identifier of an individual species. "The Perennials" are a collection of hundreds and thousands of unique species all controlled by the consciousness they make up. "The Spore" is basically plant jizz that makes more "Perennials" by pollinating converting other species.

As an example, in this chart of genetic diversity the Perennials would be the the combined yellow (fungi) green (plant) and blue (archaeplastida) sections, and the spore would be the requisite reproductive process, while humans would be just one single black line of ancestry. Despite the collective genetic diversity they all form one mind, and one "race/species".

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@LegionPothIX I know it wasn't meant in such a way, but I feel kind of offended by getting a lecture on fungi as a Biology student

Anyways, I understand it now. I was confused about what exactly you call a member of your species, like the mycelium or the whole entity, but I get it now.
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@6slyboy6 It wasn't my intent to mansplain anything to you. I didn't know you were a biology student :D! My IRL area of expertise is actually mathematics, not biology. So, as a result, I assume that (unless I'm told otherwise) I should be prepared to offer some formal (math styled) proof of anything I'm saying. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page before I posted anything IC.

If you're ready for me to post something IC then I think I'm ready to post something IC.

(Note all the IF-THEN statements I normally use: it's a sure sign you're talking to a Mathematician!)
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@6slyboy6 It wasn't my intent to mansplain anything to you. I didn't know you were a biology student :D! My IRL area of expertise is actually mathematics, not biology. So, as a result, I assume that (unless I'm told otherwise) I should be prepared to offer some formal (math styled) proof of anything I'm saying. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page before I posted anything IC.

If you're ready for me to post something IC then I think I'm ready to post something IC.

(Note all the IF-THEN statements I normally use: it's a sure sign you're talking to a Mathematician!)


I love how you cramped "IC" 3 times into the last 2 sentences

Please, go ahead and post in the IC. Not like much is going on atm.
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I love how you cramped "IC" 3 times into the last 2 sentences

Please, go ahead and post in the IC. Not like much is going on atm.


IC what you did there. :P
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*beep-boop-boop-beep-bleeep*

-Uh, hello? Is this WeedGoAway gardening? *inaudible mumbling* Fantastic! I'd like to order about 2 megatons of liquid weedkillers. *irritated mumbling* What do you mean you don't have that much? Look I need to make sure I absolutely, totally, ultimately get rid 100% of a mind altering space fungus, and you're telling me you can't give me that much weedkiller. *silence* Yeah I thought so. I expect it on my porch by Monday. Sign the bill for the Emperor, I'm sure he'll cover my expenses.

*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*
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*beep-boop-boop-beep-bleeep*

-Uh, hello? Is this WeedGoAway gardening? *inaudible mumbling* Fantastic! I'd like to order about 2 megatons of liquid weedkillers. *irritated mumbling* What do you mean you don't have that much? Look I need to make sure I absolutely, totally, ultimately get rid 100% of a mind altering space fungus, and you're telling me you can't give me that much weedkiller. *silence* Yeah I thought so. I expect it on my porch by Monday. Sign the bill for the Emperor, I'm sure he'll cover my expenses.

*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*


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@Wildman13 Sounds good to me. No need to let your named characters die.

@Legion02 I've not forgotten about you. Do you want me to post something, or do you want to do anything with the Pirates who escaped the blockade before I make my move?


Nah I'll post something of more substance soon. Sorry for my inactivity. I was out for a week without internet but now I'm back. I'll try and catch up with it all!
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ok! im back!!!

also, who wants the full force of the Void Raider battle fleet to rain hell down upon your human opressors?
(yes this is an invitation for a Colab)
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@Sophrus Me I need all the help I can get
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Sorry guys for not being active!

I've been having drawing courses for a week now, and they will end on Friday. I get home at around 9 PM, and by that time I am mostly too tired to post something meaningful.

So instead, I'll update the EOM CS with some sweet new details, including the military forces you have already met, and some of the more famous/infamous ships.

I hope that is enough sustenance until I can kill some more xenos again.
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@Sophrus Me I need all the help I can get


Well I did before, indirectly. Although @6slyboy6 would probably have to post about it. Stealing an arms shipment should make life a little easier. As for the more help, I will need to confer with you and slyboy on how to make that work. Because the void raiders are a bunch of dicks and will demand you join the alliance before they intervene... exploitation at its finest.
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