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(Good to see the double posting isn't just affecting me)

You can wait if you like, but if you want to get right into it, then I'd suggest selecting an aircraft right away. Also, there's not likely to be anything super-drastic in there.
And you're certainly welcome to use an F-4. I'm particularly fond of them myself.
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Ill start work on my CS now. Ill try and have it up soon.
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No worries, I'll look forward to it. Feel free to ask if you need any assistance.

FYI as an in general point, I'm going away for a little over a week from Saturday. I'll have limited access while I'm away, but I won't be writing any lengthy posts while I'm away. I can be reached though, and I will check on the site a few times.
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Will the F15 or any of its variants ever be allowed into the roleplay, just out of curiosity?
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Will the F15 or any of its variants ever be allowed into the roleplay, just out of curiosity?


Also just out of curiousity, what about the F/A-18?
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Dammit.... again.
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Will the F15 or any of its variants ever be allowed into the roleplay, just out of curiosity?

Also just out of curiousity, what about the F/A-18?


The F-15E Strike Eagle is probably my all time favourite aircraft, so it and it's family will be making an appearance at a point in the future. Same with the F/A-18 and it's variants, the MiG-29 and Flanker family, as well as pretty much everything else. It's just not all going to be here right away, so that there's something worth working towards, and we don't all start off with a squadron of the best planes possible, and have either ludicrous challenges to overcome so there's nothing to escalate towards, or sweep the floor with everything and the game turns into a shooting gallery and just gets boring.
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Hey are you lads still looking for more players?
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Sure, we've had a fair few people register interest. Still waiting for sheets to go up, and of course, it depends on whether said people actually post, and how long any of them actually stay in the game, so I'm still accepting for the moment.

As stated in the int-check, we went from a decent group to about four people. I'd like to at least double that if possible, for a reliable player group.
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Sorry bout that working on a sheet now.
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Sorry I havn't posted my CS yet. I'm trying to find some inspiration, so I dont write a tropey character.
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Remember that tropes aren't bad, it's how you use them that's Important. Also, it's really hard to create something completely original. Better to have a character you enjoy playing than anything else.
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Wait, so I'm looking at this and it looks pretty cool. Then I get to picking a plane out and I find I can't have an F-22. Reasonable, what's to stop everyone from picking it if It's allowed right? Alright, then I'll take a flank- no, that's not allowed either. Okay... so we have generations I can pick from, and I can't pick anything past 4. Okay, perfect. Then I'll take a Fulcr- what? really? but that's generation four! I know I can't have the best plane but i'd at least like something respectable, otherwise we'd just be flying Fishbeds or something. Lord knows I ain't flying no fishbed. Wait... what's that on the list... is that- Oh my god it is! The F-15E! It's fourth gen? Fucking sweet! That was my favorite plane in AC6! Hell yea- what? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN MEH. Okay. fine. I'll guess I'll just... take an F-16 then. Sure it's boring, but at least it's depend- WHAT?! THAT'S LIKE THE FIRST PLANE YOU GET IN THESE GAMES! Come onnnn... What am I supposed to fly now? I don't want to fly an attacker, I'll just zoom in, blow up the things on the ground and run, I won't even get to dogfight. Otherwise I'd take this thunderbolt but who am I kiddin' I probably couldn't have one of those. And my character I've conceptualized would love his plane to death, so I wouldn't even get to upgrade if the opportunity did come along...

So, I'm outta ideas. I really, REALLY wanna do this, it's not often that I slog through all the RWBY, Fairy tail, and other assorted bullshit to find an RP worth investing time in, and I love the shit out of ace combat. But, I just can't take a Fishbed, man.
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I'll put up a CS up tonight once I get back from work.
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Wait, so I'm looking at this and it looks pretty cool. Then I get to picking a plane out and I find I can't have an F-22. Reasonable, what's to stop everyone from picking it if It's allowed right? Alright, then I'll take a flank- no, that's not allowed either. Okay... so we have generations I can pick from, and I can't pick anything past 4. Okay, perfect. Then I'll take a Fulcr- what? really? but that's generation four! I know I can't have the best plane but i'd at least like something respectable, otherwise we'd just be flying Fishbeds or something. Lord knows I ain't flying no fishbed. Wait... what's that on the list... is that- Oh my god it is! The F-15E! It's fourth gen? Fucking sweet! That was my favorite plane in AC6! Hell yea- what? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN MEH. Okay. fine. I'll guess I'll just... take an F-16 then. Sure it's boring, but at least it's depend- WHAT?! THAT'S LIKE THE FIRST PLANE YOU GET IN THESE GAMES! Come onnnn... What am I supposed to fly now? I don't want to fly an attacker, I'll just zoom in, blow up the things on the ground and run, I won't even get to dogfight. Otherwise I'd take this thunderbolt but who am I kiddin' I probably couldn't have one of those. And my character I've conceptualized would love his plane to death, so I wouldn't even get to upgrade if the opportunity did come along...

So, I'm outta ideas. I really, REALLY wanna do this, it's not often that I slog through all the RWBY, Fairy tail, and other assorted bullshit to find an RP worth investing time in, and I love the shit out of ace combat. But, I just can't take a Fishbed, man.


If you do not mind attack aircraft, the Su-25 is a good choice. When upgrading comes, you can just turn it into the Su-39 or Su-25KM, both of which are the extremely modernized variants of the Su-25, so while you get the avionics and weaponry upgrades, your character would still be flying the same plane. 'Sides, just because it's not built for air-to-air doesn't mean that mission conditions won't force your character into engaging in a dogfight, eh?

If you really want a fighter, you could go with the Su-15 and upgrade it into the Su-19, a proposed modification of the Su-15 where it would receive the more powerful R-25-300 engines, a delta wing and additional pylons.
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Freeshooter92 said
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There are a bunch of planes to choose from...

You'll get your Fulcrum, Eagle, Raptor etc. in time.

Also, RWBY is great
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Freeshooter92 said I know I can't have the best plane but i'd at least like something respectable, otherwise we'd just be flying Fishbeds or something. Lord knows I ain't flying no fishbed.


Please re-read the opening again, especially the paragraph underneath the aircraft list:

Hey, Blade! Where's My F-22/Flanker/T-50/JSF/etc?!

While they are all very cool aircraft, I'm deliberately avoiding allowing players to use any of the most modern aircraft - only the aircraft from the OP on the OOC thread are available for beginning players. You may well get the chance to upgrade to something more modern down the line, but it's part of the storyline and background that more modern aircraft are currently out of reach, and older aircraft with modifications to make them more competitive are where we're starting out.

I mainly did this to avoid the 'same old aircraft' being picked - when I've tried to run other games like this, I've just ended up with a handful of F-22's, Flanker variants, and a couple of reluctant F-15 or -16 pilots, rather than anything imaginative, different or exciting (and then inevitable tremendous flame-wars about which is 'better' the F-22 or the T-50 or Flanker family).
I was kind of hoping to inspire a bit of interest in something different, rather than just seeing the same things wheeled out again and again, and to make people consider and look at some of the 'older' generations of aircraft with a new eye for appreciation of what they could do, given a bit of modern technology injected into them.


That completely aside as well, your character shouldn't be based completely around the kind of aircraft they fly, and if you really like the idea and joining in as much as you say, then the choice of aircraft shouldn't be something that holds you back that badly.
Also none of the aircraft in that list will be 'stock' in any way, as they'll all have been upgraded to the balls. I think almost all of our aircraft have vectored thrust engines, digital cockpits, helmet-mounted sights and numerous other modifications that are common to more modern aircraft. Most of them have also be re-engined as well.

Like Park says, there are literally dozens of aircraft to choose from in the list I've provided. All of them are great at something, and some of them exceptionally so. If you were interested in the F-16, try the F-20 Tigershark - it was designed to do the same job, and was pretty damn good at it, but was shittily marketed by Northrop Grumman, and never got a contract. The Viggen is a spectacular piece of aerospace engineering as well, and is an amazingly capable fighter, as well as a solid multi-role airframe. THe Tomcat is on the list, and the projected Super Tomcat 21 was set to make the Tomcat tremendously powerful, and I have nothing against applying those modifications to it.

It sounds to me like all you know about any of these aircraft is what you've seen or heard in movies and games. If you look into what they're actually capable of, then it might be more impressive to you.

Also, fyi, some of us really like 'zooming in and blowing everything up' more than dogfighting. Just sayin' ^^
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FYI, the OP aircraft list has been updated with a few more links, and a smattering of new aircraft. This isn't the next stage unlock, just a few things I forgot to include, or previously removed.
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