Let's B!tch. I feel it's a healthy release for our roleplay annoyances 2.0

[Rare]

Is it me or are there barely any RPs that I'm interested in?

[Dinh AaronMk]

Rare said
Is it me or are there barely any RPs that I'm interested in?

More often than not I have to go down to the Free Section to look at the god awful RPs there. Because chances are something will be so vanilla and goofy I can't help but have something to throw into it and watch the gears rattle.

RIP, Norlandia.

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Dinh AaronMk said
More often than not I have to go down to the Free Section to look at the god awful RPs there. Because chances are something will be so vanilla and goofy I can't help but have something to throw into it and watch the gears rattle.RIP, Norlandia.

That just sounds mean.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Enalais said
That just sounds mean.

Sometimes no one really notices. Other times they basically doom themselves.

Most of the time I try to RP as much as I can as far from them as possible, re-adapting their world to my vision and in-all trying to encourage folk to do better by doing it myself. This is especially easy when the world is very empty and needs - or demands - a lot slathered onto the canvas to dress it up; or it just gives me a lot more room to explore than RPs with a better and more complex drafted world. It's what I like to go far, open canvasses to spill myself onto among others so the world becomes more of a communal dream and less one build brick-per-brick by someone else.

And no one in NRP is offering this anymore. Gotta gimmick it all up too.

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But they can't all be like you. Thus why some of them are in the free thread to begin with

[Lillian Thorne]

Enalais said
That just sounds mean.

^This.

One of the cardinal rules of this site is to be "Fonz Cool" a broad rule for certain. However, not mocking and putting down a whole section of RP falls well within that rule. It's fine if you don't have fun that way, but others do.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Enalais said
But they can't all be like you. Thus why some of them are in the free thread to begin with

A circle jerk isn't necessarily healthy since you just keep recycling things. So without being exposed to new content - whatever the quality - you don't get to broaden yourself. Nor can others.

And it's not like Free has a maximum skill cap anyways. This sort of concept is only really there a social barrier between the role-playing castes of casual to advanced.

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But if im a free rper i'm not there to debate physics and I'm definitely not going to make things over the top with a bunch of technical crap like you. I'm there to enjoy myself and test my limits on my chars.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Enalais said
But if im a free rper i'm not there to debate physics and I'm definitely not going to make things over the top with a bunch of technical crap like you. I'm there to enjoy myself and test my limits on my chars.

In so far as I've found no one really limits their characters in free. So I don't know where you're getting at there. Everyone usually ends up getting described as some teenage super-model, intelligent and misunderstood geek, or benevolent god-type. Ya'll need more character archtypes.

And in-so-far as it matters from my end beautiful things would have happened if the rock climbing wall was to be a disaster.

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Dinh AaronMk said
In so far as I've found no one really limits their characters in free. So I don't know where you're getting at there.

My bad, but if you keep throwing a wrench in peoples ideas no ones gonna wanna rp with you. No offense but on my first day here on the site I thought you were really uptight. I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but when you feel you got a great idea and some guy comes along and debates why and how it can't work it makes me hate the rper community.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Enalais said
My bad, but if you keep throwing a wrench in peoples ideas no ones gonna wanna rp with you. No offense but on my first day here on the site I thought you were really uptight. I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but when you feel you got a great idea and some guy comes along and debates why and how it can't work it makes me hate the rper community.

It's in part called criticism. In some form or another it's all over, and the point where it really goes south is when and if it involves personal attacks on the person, and not to look at the idea and to raise a concern. A critic in that regard is probably one of the most healthiest things that can happen. If he were any other person - and if I was honestly any more evil than I am - he could abuse the loopholes in the concept to his content and really damage the RP. I don't know if you're trying to refer to any instance of me going in to critique a concept or not, but I'm sure I can defend myself since I do have legitimate concerns when I do break something down and turn it around.

Throwing monkey wrenches about may at times be the reason I step into something, but there are moments I decide the RP is good enough to stick around in and I want to see it better. What really falls short is when the responsible parties for the RP's administration doesn't show up to discuss the point. I do have my concerns, and I do want to see a loophole closed.

I could just as well totally gore the entire thing based on a consistent lapse of explanation that everyone appears to unironically be taking at face-value without realizing the open sore that it is.

And discussion is healthy. It could affirm and reaffirm a decision or help highlight an oversight in the RP's lore or mechanics. I'm no stranger to revisionism in that respect. But to respect something as a final draft and affirm that it's solid as iron to me makes the entire structure brittle.

[Rare]

Dinh AaronMk said
It's in part called criticism. In some form or another it's all over, and the point where it really goes south is when and if it involves personal attacks on the person, and not to look at the idea and to raise a concern. A critic in that regard is probably one of the most healthiest things that can happen. If he were any other person - and if I was honestly any more evil than I am - he could abuse the loopholes in the concept to his content and really damage the RP. I don't know if you're trying to refer to any instance of me going in to critique a concept or not, but I'm sure I can defend myself since I do have legitimate concerns when I do break something down and turn it around.

Throwing monkey wrenches about may at times be the reason I step into something, but there are moments I decide the RP is good enough to stick around in and I want to see it better. What really falls short is when the responsible parties for the RP's administration doesn't show up to discuss the point. I do have my concerns, and I do want to see a loophole closed.

I could just as well totally gore the entire thing based on a consistent lapse of explanation that everyone appears to unironically be taking at face-value without realizing the open sore that it is.

And discussion is healthy. It could affirm and reaffirm a decision or help highlight an oversight in the RP's lore or mechanics. I'm no stranger to revisionism in that respect. But to respect something as a final draft and affirm that it's solid as iron to me makes the entire structure brittle.

I agree with you on improving peoples' writing skill and all, but you're attacking those who don't know/have time to learn how to improve their writing skills. Most of them have school or real life that causes them to not make a detailed character/RP. Plus, you can't change Free to become Casual or Advanced-like. There is a reason why Free is here and it's to offer those who don't have the time to make detailed posts to roleplay. It's like changing the way of a burger, you can't and will never change no matter what you try to do.

[Kidd]

I hate passive-aggressive complaining about another player instead of telling them how to improve.

For example, player A makes a less than acceptable post.

Instead of saying "yo, player A, your post isn't up to standards and please try again," player B just complains on the OOC to player C about player A.

[Monkeypants]

I dislike when people fail to understand that people come here to rp for fun, as a hobby to enjoy the company of others as opposed to some so harsh that it makes this place seem like a job or chore.

There is a level of intellect required to write in general but that is what the community is for, to help people learn and grow... not hinder.

[Silverwind Blade]

I dislike when people fail to understand that people come here to rp for fun, as a hobby to enjoy the company of others as opposed to some so harsh that it makes this place seem like a job or chore.

Dear Lord, this.
I do this in my free time, whether I'm GMing or posting. It's not my 'other job', and I do it to relax. Yeah, if I'm in your game, then I've expressed my interest by posting and I do have a social obligation to post, and it's a matter of politeness to tell you if I'm having a delay or problem with posting. But it's still for fun, and not my job to do it. This is a hobby, and I'm damn well going to treat it like one. And if I get treated like I'm an employee falling behind on my 'targets', then I'm not going to be having fun any more.

[Mirandae]

There is a difference between a 'second-grade' hobby and an actual hobby. A hobby that you have a passion for you do regularly, perhaps even everyday, whatever it might be. A 'second-grade' hobby, under which a lot people here file roleplaying, is something that you only like the idea of and are willing to give up, forever, at any given moment. Some people do set unrealistic rules and expectations, but from what I've gathered it's only to weed out the second-grade hobbyists/escapists and make room for people who actually have roleplaying as a legit hobby.

[Rilla]

Another of my peeves is when people blame others for the death of a RP, instead of looking at the RP and seeing if the game itself was the cause of death and/or the reason people left.

[Alphakoka]

Rilla said
Another of my peeves is when people blame others for the death of a RP, instead of looking at the RP and seeing if the game itself was the cause of death and/or the reason people left.

Nah, it's always your fault, Rills.

[vancexentan]

When an Rp dies Rill the first thing I look at is how much effort I put into it as the gm or the gm who ran it did. If it wasn't sufficient I blame the Gm. Then I look at roleplay itself and find the players lacking or just flat out dropping the rp at the drop of the hat then I blame the players. If it's the fault of neither it is time and or real life that ends the rp.

Sun Tzu once said, "If the orders are not clear then it is the fault of the general. If the orders are clear then it's the fault of the soldiers." to paraphrase that quote.

[Yog Sothoth]

Another problem I have with the Guild's rp is how casual rps attract most of the snobby players on this site. Seriously all my worst encounters with the arrogant asses of the Guild were from Casual roleplays