[OOC] The New Frontier: A Marvel/DC One Universe RP

[Byrd Man]

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Now I'm going to fight you :P

@Lord Wraith

And Carrie Kelley will be Bluebird and Harper Row will be Oracle!

[Bounce]

Don't get him started on Damian being around before Dick, Jason and Tim.

@Lord Wraith

The awesomeness that is Damian is all that is required. Those minor, unimportant, impotent characters are unnecessary.

Besides, I'm a DickBats fan, so this is all part of a conspiracy to replace Bruce with the real Batman.

[Lord Wraith]

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And Carrie Kelley will be Bluebird and Harper Row will be Oracle!

@Byrd Man

Mooooooorden!

Make the mean Byrd Man stoooooop!

[Lord Wraith]

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The awesomeness that is Damian is all that is required. Those minor, unimportant, impotent characters are unnecessary.

Besides, I'm a DickBats fan, so this is all part of a conspiracy to replace Bruce with the real Batman.

@Bounce

But but Bruce is real Batman.

[FantasyChic]

Well it's late here so I won't do it today, but I will re-work my history then and I'll poke you when I got it done.

[Bounce]

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But but Bruce is real Batman.

@Lord Wraith

Bruce isn't even remotely close to how you spell Grayson.

[FantasyChic]

I also have a feeling this is gonna be the campaign that I'll leave for a few hours and come back to 100+ messages. Another reason I'm hesitant about joining large group games.

[Lord Wraith]

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Bruce isn't even remotely close to how you spell Grayson.

@Bounce

We don't have to do this Bounce, we can rule Gotham as father and son!

[Morden Man]

@FantasyChic Most of it is general chatter and the occasional clearing up of details for the IC thread. If you come back and a lot has happened since you left, just ask in the OOC thread if you missed anything significant and I (or whoever is around) will bring you up to date. Chances are they'll say - "We've just been shooting the shit, really."

[Gowi]

A active OOC is better for the game, anyway.

[Eddie Brock]

Hang on, though. Why would Ivy even be out of place? Okay, sidekicks coming too early I get, but Ivy's just a villain. Not being argumentative, just genuinely curious about the reasoning.

[Lord Wraith]

@FantasyChic Most of it is general chatter and the occasional clearing up of details for the IC thread. If you come back and a lot has happened since you left, just ask in the OOC thread if you missed anything significant and I (or whoever is around) will bring you up to date. Chances are they'll say - "We've just been shooting the shit, really."

@Morden Man

I'm generally around when Morden isn't and vice versa. Benefits of having GMs on opposite sides of the Globe.

Hang on, though. Why would Ivy even be out of place? Okay, sidekicks coming too early I get, but Ivy's just a villain. Not being argumentative, just genuinely curious about the reasoning.

@Eddie Brock

I believe it has to do with Batman not having fought a supervillain yet and Ivy being clearly established and doing her own thing. Which I don't mind, I don't think Ivy is necessarily hinged to Batman anymore than any other hero. Sure she's known for being part of his Rogue Gallery but I don't see why she can't exist as a separate character.

[Blue Demon]

Captain America

Steve Rodgers

Captain America

Alignment: Lawful Good

Affiliation: Justice League

History:

Growing up

Steve was born Steven Rogers. His parents were Sarah and Joseph Rogers. His father was an abusive drunkard. He eventually drank himself to death when Steve was a young child. However Steve still remembers his father's rage and how he'd beat his mother.

Sarah tried to be a good mother. What she lacked in self-esteem she made up for in love. She took care of Steve and made sure there was always food on the table. However her own health suffered. When she contracted pneumonia when Steve was in his teens, she wasn't strong enough to fight it and died.

Steve battled constantly with his sickly body. He was shorter than average and stick thin. He also had asthma and anemia and other conditions that made life nearly impossible. Despite his health Steve would go onto college. He ended up with a fine arts major specializing in illustration. His goal was to be a comic book artist.

Or it was until the second World War broke out. Steve watched his fellow classmates get drafted day after day. But never him. He knew why, because of his health. But he didn't want to accept it. He wanted to fight for his country.

Enlisting & Super Soldiers

Steve began trying to enlist. He did so multiple times. And he was rejected each and every time because of his health. However his multiple attempts did flag the military and U.S. Army General Chester Phillips was assigned the case. General Phillips was in charge of "Project: Rebirth", the super-soldier project. The General took Steve in the Army in order to include him in the Project.

While in preparation for the procedure, Steve ended up meeting the man behind the idea: Dr. Josef Reinstein. Though Steve learned later that Dr. Reinstein was an alias for Abraham Erskine. Erskine was a defector from Germany.

The experiment was a success! It turned Steve Rogers into a super soldier. Gone was the stricken, frail boy that General Phillips had picked up. And in his place was tall, masculine, Super Soldier. Of course the Allies were busy patting themselves on their successes. They were talking about expanding the program. Until the fateful day at the good doctor was assassinated!

The War

After the assassination of Dr. Erskine, the Americans were more than happy to sweep the entire program under the rug. So willing in fact they gave Steve Rogers the code name Captain America, sent him to Camp Lehigh, VA where he posed as a clumsy infantry private, and told him they'd disavow all knowledge of the Project. His regiment was the 1st Battalion, 26th Infantry Regiment "Blue Spaders".

As an infantry man he had the same uniform and gear as befitting of his rank. As Captain America, the story was different. He wore a patriotic uniform, a bullet proof triangular shield (also patriotic) and a side arm. It wasn't until later that Cap received his iconic circular shield made of steel and vibranium. When he gets his circular shield he also leaves off using his gun, finding the shield far more accurate and useful.

Of course such a ruse didn't last very long and he was soon discovered by a James "Bucky" Barnes. Bucky was a brand new recruit and as green as they could be. But the guy excelled at blackmail. If he was to keep Captain America's secret identity a secret if James could join the Captain's Team, the Invaders.

The Invaders fought all sort of villains. Some of the worst were Red Skull, Baron Zemo and Strucker. Of course they also fought villains who weren't as world threatening. They might have seemed ridiculous, but they were still a threat.

During his time at Camp Lehigh, Steve meets and falls in love with a young woman named Peggy. A leggy, blonde American who lived in the area. They were deeply in love even after she was shipped off to live with her Aunt and Uncle. The remained in secret communication until Steve never returned.

The events leading up to Steve's apparent death were rather convoluted. Needless to say that the Invaders weren't able to help Steve and Bucky fight Baron Zemo and disarm the missile the Baron had primed. Steve alone attacked the Baron, not realizing Bucky was on the missile. The three of them ended on said missile as it flew over the ocean. Steve and Bucky sabotaged the missile and all three were plunged into the ocean.

Awaking in the Future

Steve Rogers, under the name Captain America, and his friend Bucky were declared MIA and later, dead.

It wasn't until the year 2013 that Steve was discovered by Lex Luthor. Lex thaws him and discovered that Captain America was still alive! Lex helped Steve adjust to the future and gave him a position on his newly formed Justice League. Steve accepted and moved into the JL's Headquarters. Ironically in Lex's building.

Supporting Cast:

Cast from the 1940s

Allies:

James Buchanan "Bucky" Barnes

Steve's best friend in the war and the only line level soldier to know Steve's true identity. Presumed Dead.

Peggy Carter

Steve's love interest. Only knew him as Steve Rogers. Was forced to move because her parent's disproved of her dating a military man. They remained in contact with each other until Steve "died".

Abraham Erskine

The man who created the super soldier serum. Went by the alias Josef Reinstein. Defected from Nazi Germany after witnessing many atrocities committed by Baron Zemo and Adolf Hitler.

General Chester Phillips

One of the men overseeing Project Rebirth. Recruited Steve into the program. After the Project is classified and redacted, the General was reassigned to another part of the War and didn't see Steve again.

The Invaders

The group of men Captain America fought with in the war.

Enemies:

Baron Zemo

The main villain the Invaders tangled with. Caused the "death" of Captain America and Bucky. Was also presumed dead at the same time.

Red Skull

Not as big of a threat as Zemo. But in the power vacuum he attained the coveted spot of most notorious.

Present:

Lex Luthor

Lex is a man that Cap respects. He found Steve, gave him a home and purpose. Basically, Lex is now Tony in their interactions. But with a lot less friction. So, Pre-Civil War relationship basically.

Barry Allen
Batman
Natasha Romanova
Scott Lang
Carol Danvers
Arthur Curry
Thor Odinson

How (if at all) does the New Frontier version of your character differ from the original?: Unlike the MCU and most media involving Captain America and his "Icy Tomb" Cap didn't fight Red Skull. It was Baron Zemo. And that's who I used. I also edited out the part were other men wore the Captain America mantle after Steve "Died". A lot of my Cap uses the 616 back story which if you're not familiar with it seems very different. But the MCU added and tweaked a lot. So if that;s your basis, this will make you go "But wait! That'd not how it goes!" But that was how it went.

With Peggy, I kept her origins and appearance. But I didn't care for the whole "I got injured and lost my memory". Way too soap opera. So I changed it to her parents didn't like her cavorting with military men and shipped her away. (This isn't a Korean Drama!)

As for Steve and Tony, I transferred a lot of Cap's feelings and thought process to Lex. Because Lex pretty much takes the place of Tony in this world. Because of that I doubt Tony and Steve have any relationship at all.

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All relations to the JLA members are unspoken. Because I'm not sure how they all feel about each other (AKA, I don't even know which of you commented about it in your CSs)

Also, not finished if I need a post sample. Looking at you @Vandy. Time to step up to the plate man.

Hang on, though. Why would Ivy even be out of place? Okay, sidekicks coming too early I get, but Ivy's just a villain. Not being argumentative, just genuinely curious about the reasoning.

@Eddie Brock

I think it was the whole "No Gotham" thing I did. Maybe?

But I would also like to know why. Gowi did a nice cop-out.

[FantasyChic]

Hang on, though. Why would Ivy even be out of place? Okay, sidekicks coming too early I get, but Ivy's just a villain. Not being argumentative, just genuinely curious about the reasoning.

@Eddie Brock

Gee thanks :(

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I'm generally around when Morden isn't and vice versa. Benefits of having GMs on opposite sides of the Globe.

@Lord Wraith

Noted. I should have something up come tomorrow.

[Lord Wraith]

Kudos to @Blue Demon for being one of the few people to remember that Batman is a Leaguer. A reserve one but he's on the team still damnit.

[FantasyChic]

Well Morden Man did say his ruling is final. If he's ok with it, then that's that. But I would like to point out that the rules say Mainstream Marvel and DC. It didn't specify heroes only, no sidekicks. I am sure Robin could come out as his own "hero" given the right motivation.

[Gowi]

Hang on, though. Why would Ivy even be out of place? Okay, sidekicks coming too early I get, but Ivy's just a villain. Not being argumentative, just genuinely curious about the reasoning.

@Eddie Brock

I sort of believe when Batman is only just now getting into the thick of his career where he hasn’t tangled with his more audacious and eccentric villains (The Joker, Two Face, etc.) that it kind of goes beyond my personal suspension of belief. Basically you can sum it up as she’s a legacy character that hasn’t debuted in-continuity and has been changed to accommodate player interest rather than storytelling dynamic. This is not an insult towards Blue Demon, who I’ve written with before and completely trust but rather my subjective feelings that “it’s too soon” for both Ivy and Harley. But I can put my preferences aside and put trust in the players and the GM’s, because ultimately this isn’t my personal fan-fiction and it has a different feel than the RP’s I run, so I’m just going with the flow. I just want to point out my personal misgivings.

[Blue Demon]

Kudos to @Blue Demon for being one of the few people to remember that Batman is a Leaguer. A reserve one but he's on the team still damnit.

@Lord Wraith

And the only one that isn't listed by their true name. *Shakes fist* It's driving me nuts. Do I leave Bats as the odd man out, or list them all by their codenames? The dilemma still continues.

[Lord Wraith]

And the only one that isn't listed by their true name. *Shakes fist* It's driving me nuts. Do I leave Bats as the odd man out, or list them all by their codenames? The dilemma still continues.

@Blue Demon

Batman is always the exception.

[Gowi]

Well Morden Man did say his ruling is final. If he's ok with it, then that's that. But I would like to point out that the rules say Mainstream Marvel and DC. It didn't specify heroes only, no sidekicks. I am sure Robin could come out as his own "hero" given the right motivation.

@FantasyChic

The GM also has told players not to “ultimize” thus meaning to not make major character changes that ‘reinvent the wheel’ as the idiom goes. I was allowed for variation on Wonder Woman after a discussion about it, but someone who made bigger changes like turning Black Panther into a teenager in New York City wasn’t. There are exceptions to this so far, but I believe Morden has been consistent in his rulings for the most part. This is why the issue of Harley comes up because her traditional origin is impossible in the framework of the game.