Andreyich

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Sorry about not posting lad's this and that, life's hitting like a sack of bricks with work and education happening at once. I'll try to post up soon though.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Strange, it seems your response in this post says otherwise. Either you're shitting on anarchists, implying Puigdemont and/or the MPs are anarchists, both, or neither. Which is it?

>still not reading

I've already repeated my point twice dude, also your link doesn't work for me but I doubt this is a surprise to you when your six bazillion iq makes you not need pathetic things like "points" and "reading what the other wrote."

From the article I linked earlier: "[Joan Tardà] added that the response of the Catalonian government had been “sharp and resounding” but said that those who “crave” violence “are going to stay with that desire”."

Calling vandalism symbolic is a form of apologism? How do you figure that?

yes, because you're brushing aside the importance of it, for vandalism is very much material. Additionally, you're carefully omitting the part regarding not the lass blaming tourists for such things.

It seems you're not being consistent about which group you're referring to

nope, I'm perfectly consistent in who I'm referring to.

When I said "democratic separatists", I was referring to Puigdemont and the Parliament

nice dude

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

It wasn't intended to counter your statement.

You: Take that anarchshits.
Me: You mean democratic separatists.
You: As it stands I don't believe in your bullshit so no
Me: Are you implying that President Carles Puigdemont is an anarchist, and the Parliament of Catalonia is full of other anarchists? Because they're the ones that led the referendum. If so, I'd love to see your evidence for that claim.
You: Have you seen them decry it a single time, like conservatives are expected to decry the kkk and other such movements? Anyway, you don't really provide any evidence beyond what can be referred to as "alternative facts."

You seem to be implying they're anarchists, rather than democratic separatists. Where's the evidence?

No, I'm saying it's possible and the reverse isn't proven. My initial statement was referring to the anarchist movement and you keep trying to shift my point for me, trying to start an "argument" so as to show how smart you are or some other retarded bullshit. Nice dude.

So, you're just making a baseless claim.

No, I'm saying that there isn't any anti-anarchist action done, and one person being apologist in their congress is already significant apologist attitude.

I did read the article, but I made a mistake about what Boya said. I've also admitted to making other mistakes, specifically about the number of seats for certain parties, and pointed them out for the sake of being honest.

You didn't retract the beliefs based on the original statement and keep arguing the original bullshit.

But you know, once again it's pretty ebin how you try to make a topic of argument out of where there wasn't one.

Also as an aside, I got a few giggles out of someone unironically using aljazeera as a source. I guess stormfront is reputable too then.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Good thing those two are the spokespeople for their respective parties

That in no way counters my statement, once more learn to read.

You still haven't provided evidence that they're not democratic separatists.

Who? Moving my goalpost for me is a pretty ebin thing to do though, you're a smart guy I can see.

I asked you if you were implying that they're anarchists, and you didn't say no. Rather, you asked if they had decried the illegal actions of certain anarchists, as if they were expected to do so. Should I have interpreted your reply as a no?

I'm saying it's up to debate and there isn't any proof they are not in fact, anarchists considering the significant apologist attitude present. Once more, learn to read.

What "alternative facts"?

Ones that are untrue lol, i.e. when you didn't bother to read your own article

The Blue and the Gray: Harrison's Valley

The commander of the British volunteers smiled as the men crossed, and left some cavalry behind. "Easy pickings!" he announced, and continued with "Johnny rebel will get many a bullet in him today!" to a cheer from both the negroes and the volunteers. "You, blackies, march down and call the natives again, try to get the cavalry and take as many prisoners as you can, but don't waste your bullets." He'd say, to be echoed with another man saying "Aye, 'cos they're worth more than ya!" to a laugh and even giggle from the Commander. Thus, he rode off and rounded up the 350 men who stayed at the station before getting all to board the next train. Finally, he went over to the cannon crews and told them to go over to the creek and deploy at it right beside the train tracks so they could cross if they desired to the other side while still staying defended. Finally, the gatling gunners along with the mortars would also board the train, and with all men on, the commander hopped on too.

Three hundred and fifty men had already reached Critchley's farm and after every man dropped a coin or two for his services, they completely looted his farm for bread, milk, jerky, a revolver with a few bullets, some powder and charge-paper, and then they ran south to catch up with the other men.

Elsewhere, 700 men got off at Harris station, but the Confederates were already seizing the other farm, and they could do nothing about it. So.... It appeared the men had to hole up at Harrisburg. There they started to build up barricades here and there, place men at key points, and loot the buildings for whatever supplies they could find be it food or munitions. Then, they waited.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

That assumes Assemblywoman Boya is actually an apologetic. If she is, which has yet to be proven, it's more like a 7v1, because Tardàis and Boya are the spokespeople for their respective parties.

In actual number of people to speak it's a 1v1

Here's what I said:

(what you actually said first)

You mean democratic separatists.

catchamber "facts" strike yet again.

You're implying that Puigdemont and the Parliament are anarchists, simply because they didn't decry them, so I pointed out that Tardàis did just that. You then corrected my inaccurate statement that Boya also decried them, but her words didn't explicitly condone the vandalism.

No, you can't read.

Basically, your point can be summarized as an argument from ignorance, which is a fallacy.

Once more, you can't read and like to use "alternative facts."

Your point(s) can be summarized as wrong.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I already showed you that Congressman Joan Tardàis decried the vandalism that was purportedly done by anarchists, and he even stated that people may try to link the vandalism to the independence movement. While I agree that Popular Unity Candidacy may be pro-anarchist, you've yet to provide hard evidence that President Carles Puigdemont or the majority of Catalonia's Parliament are pro-anarchist. Until you do that, my premise that they're just democratic separatists still stands, because they're the ones that initiated the referendum.

So in the congress it's a 1v1 in numbers of decry via apologism. Nice.

I mean, if you're just shitting on a bunch of anarchists, that's a different story. If so, you should withdraw your implication that the President and majority of Parliament are on their side.

No, git gud at reading m8

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Thanks for correcting me, but Popular Unity Candidacy isn't exactly a big party, and you've yet to provide evidence that President Puigdemont is an anarchist, or that a vast segment of the Parliament of Catalonia supports violent anarchism. As it stands, CUP only makes up around 14% of the pro-independence side, and 8% of the Parliament. Is that enough to deem the pro-independents and Parliament pro-anarchist?

Again, show me a decrying of the anarchists from government members rather than an attempt at distraction. But, I'd like to also note that your whole premise is flawed since when I said "take the anarchshits" I was referring specifically to the anarchists.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Actually, yes, I have.

Have you bothered to read that article yourself? The Tarda lad seems to slightly decry them but is alone in this, however the Catalonian Independence party member Ms. Boya did not, and said the attacks are symbolic, and are instead the fault of the sub-government's policy/the tourists themselves.

catchamber "facts" strike again.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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Are you implying that President Carles Puigdemont is an anarchist, and the Parliament of Catalonia is full of other anarchists? Because they're the ones that led the referendum. If so, I'd love to see your evidence for that claim.

@catchamber

Have you seen them decry it a single time, like conservatives are expected to decry the kkk and other such movements? Anyway, you don't really provide any evidence beyond what can be referred to as "alternative facts."

I'm thinking the anarchist movement in Catalonia is like the Neo-Nazi movement in the conservative party. Is it there? Yes. Is it the main body of them? No.

Much bigger than any nazi movement.