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No but for real would it be fine to make a villain because running down the characters posted it seems like the roster is, like, stacked with the mainstays and the character I was craftin' kinda wouldn't hang with the Batwomens and Zatannas and Cool Worlds and Krypton Crews. Not saying that I still won't toss the app up just exploring options and all that jazz hands.


I'd say just go with the currently accepted people ATM. If you wanna go with everyone, we don't have a tech guy yet. And Light probably doesn't well with tech... xD

Why not be Iron man-alike? I dunno, DC doesn't have many full techies besides Cyborg.
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Well, why don't we wait and see if Al is even accepted first before we go making any evil plans - er, I mean... formulate strategies. <_<


xD. Just be careful where you put that hand. She already has to deal with the occasional anvil out of nowhere, don't wanna add more unpleasantries, or maybe she'd like it? xD.

Speaking of shields. Holy jeebus is Captain America's shield durable. and yet apparently WW's bracers are even more durable than that? WTF?
Best part is, Ding Dong Daddy was actually canon back then. xD

In all seriousness, I'd appreciate a magic villain or two. Doesn't have to be a big name or anything, but someone like Mumbo would be fun for Al to duke it out with, see who can out-magic the other as it were.


You can use Light as a shield! I'm sure that will end well for everyone involved... xD
@Saarebas Are there going to be any villain groups? I was just thinking, that with all of the interest, it would open up other roles for people.


I'm guessing at least Batman's entire rogues gallery at minimum. Maybe some Lex and other minor Superman villains, maybe Flash's rogue gallery, and the occasional big guy.
I'm liking the character roster. Lots of varied powers.

Now the question. Who is going to be hitting on whom? xD
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Not at all. Compare Young justice superboy versus Justice league superman. He was still coming into his powers with room to grow, he had super-vision and x-ray, but no heat vision or super speed unless his human DNA was surpressed.

Couple months back I played a superman who landed in hawaii instead of kansas, I gave him the endurance and heat vision as his primary powers so he could take punishment and deal out hits as well.

Since thee are so many aspects of supermans powers, pick your top 3-5 favorites and focus on them more and give yourself come room to 'level-up'.

As before, suggestions only.


That sounds really sweet. xD Sounds like a City of Heroes kinda powerset balance thing, which I'm fine with xD.

EDIT: Wait, Superboy had Xray? I didn't know that!
@Archmage MC
To be fair, both Superman and Batman are "Mary Sue" characters - they're just able to be labeled as such for different reasons.
Superman, because he's pretty OP - though he wouldn't be considered so on his home planet - and Batman because of his behaviour and backstory.


Yep yep. xD I'm just super chatty and trying to help @Princeofhearts's char idea to work assuming their dead set on it. Problem with Superman is the extreme lack of weaknesses for so many powerful and pricy powers, and even then his weaknesses aren't that strong anyway.

@Archmage MC

I got a feeling you want my character to be hella weak. If it was like this, I would've just made something else other than Kryptonian but I'll see what I can do.


I don't want it to be super weak, its more the Teen Titans setting and powerlevel area than anything. And lack of palpable weaknesses against any villain that isn't the top tier DC villains, which the Titans don't really fight since its out of their powerlevel range. (I'm not including any batman villains here because they are pretty low on the DC power scale if their name isn't Joker. And even he isn't that high on the scale tbh.)

Also admittedly I'm an advid Superman hater. xD

@Archmage MC
To be fair, both Superman and Batman are "Mary Sue" characters - they're just able to be labeled as such for different reasons.
Superman, because he's pretty OP - though he wouldn't be considered so on his home planet - and Batman because of his behaviour and backstory.

edit ;; I gotta go, though, so I hope you guys can sort this out. (I'd really leave the decision up to the GM, though.)


Yeah, I'mma do that. The basically carbon copy of Superman's powerset with 100k tons of SS really raised red flags in my head though. xD
@Archmage MC@Fabricant451

I see, well next time I'm just gonna make a Batman type character. xD


Its not your fault. Lots of hate for Superman out there xD. Like I said, Goku vs Superman didn't help things at all. xD

If your dead set on a Superman like char, we can probably work something out to make them work.

You could make him have roughly or a little less than the durability/strength/speed of Starfire/GMs char, but instead of energy bolts you got your vision and breath powers nerfed a bit. Tack on the Red Sun/Kyrptonite weaknesses, change the knowledge down to be reasonable, but not JL levels, and we could probably make stuff work, yeah?
@knighthawk

Yessir, I'll change it. :D

Edit; I never knew making a Krypto could be so bad tbh x.x no one likes Kryptonians I am guessing?


There is a reason why Superman hasn't been successful in the same way Batman has, hes just a mary su char that sets the bar for DC heroes in such a way that unless your Batman, your kinda SOL. Plus imagine how hard a Superman videogame is to make in comparison to a Batman game. With Batman, its feasible for him to lose in most situations. He usually doesn't (Unless its DCAU), but its not beyond the scope of belief. Superman? You KNOW hes going to win, your just waiting for it to happen as nothing can hurt him, and you know the writers don't have the balls to kill him off and keep him dead or crippled unlike Batman.

Plus Goku vs Superman, with the deathbattle team using Silver Age superman didn't help things at all.
@Archmage MC@Wisp

I personally was going for Supergirl lol cause I was inspired by her TV-Show.
But they said all Kryptonians had the same abilities and I didn't really think of Superboy, I just named his Alias as that. And he could have threats, I mean there's his weakness of Kryptonite, etc.


Yeah, but kryptonite is supposed to be rare, same with red sun radiation. My char has that net/gas/ext weakness which is much, MUCH more readily available, even on a shoestring budget.

@PrinceofheartsFor one, I'd tone down the scale of his powers. A fist-fight using super strength of 100,000 tons with flash-equal speed is over the top compared to most others if he went off the wall from mind control or some such. most superheroes get super strength or super speed, not both. And tossing on super-genius intellect with full martial arts training.

Soft suggestion and suggestion only is to set yourself up with a personal level or point system and shift the things around to scales of strength, instead of starting off with arctic superbreath, make it 10 MPH and lower temperature by 10 degrees, you could freeze already cool objects around 40 degrees and kick up debris easily hands free. Then after some adventuring and training, ramp it up to 20 MPH winds and 20 degree cooling. When you reach huricane force winds the arctic breath will be just as easy to accomplish.

But teffinately drop the strength and speed to something like 10X a human of his height/weight, that's 100-120MPH and 2000 pounds or so. More than enough to be a superhero without being justice leauge material off the bat.


Thats about Superboy levels, except I think Superboy had 10 ton lifting cabaility instead of 1 ton, yeah?

Superman chars are really hard to balance. its like their points system is overbudgeted by a lot.
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