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2 yrs ago
Current I do not "brainrot". I brainferment so my brain will become even smoother and even more potent than before in its smoothness.
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I live. I die. I live again!
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4 yrs ago
I was gone for a lot longer than I thought >.>"
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4 yrs ago
Sorry for my absence! A Volunteering position suddenly turned into a Volunteer Leadership position I was not expecting at all so things have been hectic.
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4 yrs ago
Look at you posers, having to bang dragons or sell your soul for magic when you could just play a lute for some. Anyways, here's Wonderwall. - Bards
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Well, that's the thing, NJ doesn't have the industrial capacity. Not yet at least. When they do eventually have the industry, they'll probably be stuck with rifled musket-type small arms for a long time. Somewhere in the 1820s to early 50s is where NJ is at.
They'll have to re-develop the last century and a half of firearms design, helped along by old world technology to make it more like a few decades.
Then again, maybe cavalry won't be so big. It relies on a wealth of other industries that are very specialized, advanced knowledge of which is not likely to have survived the apocalypse— saddle making, etc. Strapping a horse to a cart is probably easier than an artisan making a saddle to ride one. I imagine when they do ride horses, they do so bareback.


Its actually harder make a cart than a saddle. You could technically just throw a carpet on the back of a horse and ride it, then maybe use like special boots with spurs like the cowboys to steer it. Even then making a basic saddle isn't that hard. Cart making is its own entire thing since that requires a good deal of math to actually be able to make circular wheels, strong enough axels and good enough construction so the thing doesn't fall apart when it hits a hole.

*I'm not exaggerating when I call NJ an upstart shantytown. There's nothing there but fishermen and farmers (for now). All the iron they source from the ruins, salvaging rebar from old reinforced concrete and such. There are maybe 3 blacksmiths (as in specialists where that's their only job and they are masters) in the entire town. Not much industry to be waging war on something like a US Civil War scale.


To be fair, I assume most people are glorified shanty towns at the moment.

They have a handful of firearms from the old world (revolvers from bunker security forces), which is all I could think of helping along their weapons technology in the short term.

*Important to consider, how would they re-invent smokeless powder? How would they re-invent black powder for that matter? I imagine they'd have to recover that knowledge from the ruins somehow. Might ask GM. The guns they have they can only use because of ancient stocks of ammunition scavenged from the ruins.


100+ years might be asking a bit much for old revolvers, especially if they haven't' been treated well. Also consider this: what are you trying to learn from them? The firing mechanism? Well you can learn that but then you'd need to learn about the bullet. You likely have no idea what combination of chemicals the powder is made of and forget about the primer's materials. That's generally the thing that just because you have a thing doesn't mean you can fully remake it. You have no idea the type or quality of metal used to make the gun and if you did know, you probably don't have the facilities to make it yourself. This is something you see when people ask why didn't X country just remake Y country's stuff in WW2? Its because looking at a tank hull gives you jack shit in the processes used to make that tank hull.

Also doesn't gunpowder like go bad after a while? If its been a century at least then I can't imagine a lot of it would be advisable to use.

@ClocktowerEchosWhen New Jericho gets a little bigger and more wealthy, the rich humans might also pay a pretty penny for some nice giant mutated fox fur :D

Come to think of it, NJ will likely make substantial use of cavalry, as their level of technology is basically early/mid-19th century currently. Interesting if they and the rat knights met on the field of battle

*I VOTE FOR THE NAME FENJACKS.

Or Jackofens...


Still working on what exact trade goods Highwarren can even produce.

Also by the 1800's cavalry was on its way out as a primary fighting force or focus. Most armies had already made the move towards infantry and line battles. If you have that tech and the industrial capacity, focusing on cavalry would require something actively blocking the adoption of infantry focused tactics.
@rezay I actually considered beakdogs but the two legs thing doesn't seem that great when your main tactic involved cavalry charges. Elkbird looks cool as hell though. I'm now actually considering mutated fennic foxes that already survive in the desert. Have them grow a bit larger, maybe add in jackalope-style antlers and that could be a very distinctive and stylish animal. Would also provide some luxurious fur and antlers for decoration. Call em Fenjak Foxes or Chimera Foxes and give them some more mutations.
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Hehe, the image of armored rat people on horses is pretty funny. Probably don't use horses, though
Yes, something like the Mirelurk queen (but larger) perhaps. Who knows what the place can hold.

Humans on the other hand are still greedy and will do stupid things if it means they might get rich. If NJ ever makes it to one of the sludgelands, the government in whatever form it will take will probably have a bounty sort of system where independent actors enter the place and try to recover ancient technology or whatever, nominally under contract with the government. Let natural selection take its course, who ever comes back comes back, whoever doesn't doesn't. Once there's a considerable number of humans to expend, that is.

In the case of some dangerous wildlife being drawn out of the sludgelands, then the government would become more involved. Can't have giant crabs eating your tax base

As previously stated, very dependent on a lot of factors though. If NJ takes the Imperium of Man route, they might act similarly to the rats.


Still deciding what they actually ride. Right now I'm torn between giant rats, drake-lizards, wolves or something else. On the discord I joked about riding Deathclaws which as cool as that would be, is probably unlikely. However I could see them using an especially large animal as a sort of battle platform with a howda full of archers or a ballista (or gunners in the far future).

Highwarren is no stranger to battle and given its a monarchy partially based on martial strength, the King defeating the monsters from the muck would only strengthen his claim and legitimacy. No doubt you'd have quest takers and adventurers trying to go in and probably getting themselves killed. Some young hot headed squire or knight errant might try to run in and show his skill and likely get killed in the process but returning with the body of a beast or tech would certainly propel you up the ranks of nobility.
@rezay Rats are slightly more survivable than humans but just barely. They will see it as a cursed land that borders on myth where the dead walk and the damned horrors of a past age stalk the sickly land. Any rat going in will have to get a signed warrant of exploration from the King and sign a contract. They're aware of what could be inside, good and bad, and thus will still try to make efforts to explore it to a degree. After all, OOC their tech develops very slowly unless they're studying old world tech or otherwise using something old world.

Personally, I also imagine that you might have some mutated monster come shambling out of the mire and thus the Knights of Highwarren mount up and do a glorious charge against the foul terrors in the name of King and Caretaker.
@rezay I wouldn't be too hard on yourself, getting reactions is the exception and not the norm. Honestly this is the most amount of reactions I've probably ever seen in an RP.
Going off of what @rezay said, having wasteland deserts just give trade bonuses for crossing doesn't make sense. Trade is valuable because of the things that are traded, not the journey the goods take. I suppose that also goes off the other issue with the map is that there doesn't actually seem to be anything of value that is easily accessible and not in a lethal biome. And with ruins I'm assuming that they're either urban or suburban ruins which means the land they're on often as little resource value. What is an airport supposed to be able to produce on its own?

I could see the Rats and the Ogres becoming huge in trade once that does get set up (being outposts in the wasteland to resupply) but the other issue is that we'd have to rely entire on NPC to NPC or PC to NPC trade since everyone else can just follow the much easier route along the coast to trade with one another.
I meant forum. And yeah it typically is use for OOC but most OOCs do not have people putting out back to back to back to back posts.
Highwarren would probably be looking for people to buy building materials from and act as a huge importer. Only issue is that I have no idea what I could export that would be so valuable. Maybe something like trinket and craft exporting? Maybe mushroom wine?

Also I don't mean to be "that guy" but @rezay you do realize that this is a PBP form and not a discord chat room to spam out posts that could just be done in one post? We have one for the RP too.
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