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Tamerlane, the Mongol general who built an empire larger than Genghis Khan all by himself.


Umm...

Timur's Empire.


The Empire of Genghis Khan at his passing


The Empire after several generations up to Kublai Khan


And Timur sort of shot himself in his aready gimped foot that he rarely left an administration for his own benefit anyways. He just sort of straight up leveled everything and took whatever could be moved for himself. Unlike Genghis and his sons who set up administrations in the lands that surrendered or they subjugated.
All of which is several generations of Great Khans after Genghis and irrelevant to the thread topic. The Khanate managed on in a fairly stable climate until about Kublai Khan and the three Khanates in the Khagan began to develop a more independent power structure by the 14th century. The Illkhanate adopting Islam, the Chinese territories establishing the Yuan dynasty (which would reign for about a modest hundred years), and the Golden Horde doing whatever the hell it wanted. But prior to the death of Kublai and even after the death of Genghis Khan these groups within the Empire were integrated units of the larger Mongolian politic.

The succession from Genghis to his sons, and his sons to their sons weren't anarchy as you're trying to describe. And the entities of the greater Empire as described were all the same elector powers for the appointment of future Great Khans.
In Mahz's Dev Journal 11 yrs ago Forum: News
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Is this a serious question? Are you actually accusing Mahz of uploading a virus? *SMH*


Well I would if I didn't end up having to go do things elsewhere on the internet for class and got the same messages from the browser. So it's left Mahz's domain.

But I only raise the issue on the assumption somehow got through and chunked something in the code.
In Mahz's Dev Journal 11 yrs ago Forum: News
Mahz, did you or someone upload a virus to the site because the Mac* here at school is flipping the Hell out whenever I visit this site.

To make everyone comfortable: there's nothing going on I needed to pay attention to at this time.

*Yes I know this seems almost contradictory because "lolMacsDon'tgetViruses", which is surprising me.
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Inevitably each of their strategies proved to be inferior in the end, as both the Khan's and Rommel's overall missions failed, seeing as the Mongolians fell to a power-hungry feud, and Rommel ultimately failed his duty in both Normandy and Africa.

Tactics might be a better way to put it. Undoubtedly, the Khan ran into a lot of logistics issues, but he still managed to form the largest land empire. His early military campaigns relied a lot on Chinese cavalry, catapults and siege-based warfare, which wasn't always the perfect method of battle for certain terrain. Best example of this would probably be seen in the Mongol's terror within Eastern Iran. At Urgench the city was built along a river with a marshy terrain that had a lack of rocks to use for these catapults which sort of put the Khan at a stalemate. Even with this, he still managed to conquer Urgench, but with much higher casualties than usual.

As for Rommel, I would agree his tactics out weighed that of his military strategy, even if it was long term. That being said, Rommel really didn't always have a problem with a lack of supplies or units under his control. In my opinion, Rommel's prime lasted until early 1943, where the rapid fall of Nazi Germany began.


Technically in a sense the Mongolian Empire was rather successful in its goals of creating a unified state and what brought it down wasn't any sort of military incompetence but Mongol law and tradition really, which was as successful as any Mongol would imagine. The thing with this post is that you're trying to frame Genghis Khan's ultimate goal in a modern or even a theory of a modern complex framework, even if "own the world" is an inevitably simple one. But I doubt the real goal of Temujin's conquest was really to do that. The mission of Genghis Khan was likely more along the lines of forming a unified Mongol state through finding and fighting external enemies, as they did. And then taking the people they subjugated and finding a common enemy for them and the Mongols and pitting the combined armies against them. Rinse, wash, and repeat until the Great Khan dies and succession dictates his sons get equal territories and powers.

The other strength of the Mongols was their practice of conscripting their subjugated states into their armies with more-or-less the same equal standing in its structure. Being tribal they didn't really bother with trying to justify any sort of religious morality under Tengrism as most people so they weren't as persecutory as the peoples they rolled in under their banner. So they were much more flexible than any other armies.

Plus it was the classical medieval era anyways, so modern nationalism didn't exist so there wasn't as rigid a definition of who you were in relation to your neighbors and your exact practices.

But in any case, I wouldn't call Genghis Khan a military failure since the division of the Empire went about as would be expected by Mongols at the time. And their Empires likewise.

But in the framework of the thread that is not "best Empire" but "best leader" the question of the Empire's health isn't really a factor since it occurred only after his death. If because he wanted to avoid his family beating the shit out of itself over who claims the entire thing so declared it all would be divided equally with each son being Great Khan in their own right. He was a by-gone factor by the time legal division happened.

It's a similar deal you find in other Empires. The Carloingian Empire didn't so much "collapse" as we might think but just sort of lapsed out of existence, because also fuck having French sons kill French sons. Or holding multiple titles of the same strength.
If this entire thread is not put through Microsoft Sam, set to the Mario 2 theme, and posted to your favorite video site then there'll be hell to pay someday.

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And on yours, you're the only one who actually makes anything =p

I did get into a server like this. Unfortunately, the leader of my civilization liked to antagonize people and he ended up getting our city put to the torch.


Well every so often others get on, but I don't even think they know what they're doing.

Like there's sky scrapers in one place and Viking long houses in another. And when I challenge the admin for some enforcement of consistency on a sort of parallel and how things shouldn't be so scattered he defends the status quo with "It's unique".
Ultimately the ventures of AMERIKA HIGHSKOOL is pretty irrelevant on the whole of your life except for local bragging rights if you're ever going to end up being the Highschool star QB that ends up staying behind trying to work blue collar because you somehow suffered too many concussions playing futy-bul. And even then you're likely to outgrow the varsity jacket all the while, I know guys who've managed to outgrow the service uniform or whatever they got for serving the military twenty years ago. Chances are as a whole it's not going to fit.

But at the same time I can understand a sort of emotional want to have one, it's a good thing to show off while it's a culturally significant thing to have.

That said, I'd say just give the jacket to the kid. Saying no in mind just really sort of paints an un-pretty picture of the faculty as a whole. Even if he's doing some extra curricular activity. So he's going beyond his handicaps as sports or band kids go beyond what's expected to be average.
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