Double Capybara

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@WrongEndoftheRainbow Didn't you read the latest post? *stares*

This one is the construction post: roleplayerguild.com/posts/3753373

But really. I built the city. So if you want, you can ask me stuff. If Poog is out, of course, he is the ultimate voice on these matters.

There are also humans and hain, which I also worked a lot with. (Did you read the phantasmagoria post? Or teknall's journey as a Hain?)

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I get that since they based their (demi)gods around technology those few people want to be the ones to make wheels and so on, but if their monopoly over that form of technological advancement holds the RP back then it should be broken.

From past conversations I know that we're fairly divided (some would've liked to just breeze into a medieval-LOTR era as we did in the last Divinus, whereas others are really savoring this primitive stage) but I think we all can agree that there needs to be some steady progression. To any that really want to keep RPing in a Stone Age setting, my answer is to make a separate planet in the RP that has a lower technology level. Easy. Then that opens up Galbar to more storyline potential.

So, my stance on the issue: I'm all in favor of getting technology chugging along, and I see no issue with Lazarus, Amartia, or anyone else contributing (albeit in what's probably a smaller way). Trying to seize complete control of technological advancement for Teknall and the demisisters is about as extreme as Zephyrion and his elementals assuming control over the formation of all landforms and me telling everyone else that they can't make these mountains and oceans. There can be some middle ground, folks.

Thoughts @Kho@Rtron?

@Cyclone

Middle Ground, yes, that is the good stuff.

My complaint with Xerxes was that it felt a bit too rushed, especially when it was going to outright be a Nation in a time were only City States are even plausible. Now it's far more okay.

Furthermore, I don't think anyone wants to "stay" in the stone age. It's just that so far, we have been bulding up stuff in small steps. There were different posts about cloth weaving, rope making, rock chipping, and all that sort of thing. It's odd that suddenly, as Agriculture was just invented, we just jumped ahead all the way up to irrigation.

Now, I think stuff like the Wheel should certainly be out. But let's not jump outright into Medieval times just to make the story go "forward".

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@WrongEndoftheRainbow Seriously? Is the wheel off limit? Considering Carpentry has been around for a long while I was already considering it a Free Action research. That is surprise.

Hey, Ilunabar is going to work on taxonomy of plants soon, along with Piena and Meimu. Want to get get into it? Maybe make it a collab.

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I want to have the mortals do it themselves, but we aren't at the stage where we can do that without it taking centuries. We aren't at the point where I can set up educational institutions and start pushing them to doing it on their own in a manner that doesn't take horrific amounts of time.

EDIT: Also, Xerxes stuff isn't my thing. In three or four posts all I've done is drugged up my demigod. He's not really going to be skipping any experiments.

@WrongEndoftheRainbow

And that is why gods spend Freepoints and might to "inspire" mortals.

I mean, you just can't escape godly influence in Galbar, Ilunabar is at the dreams, Teknall has his chipers, stuff like The Phantasmagoria, where a god just sends waves of inspiration across the land, happens multiple times.

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I'm personally eager to get moving as being stuck in the primitive age gives very, very little opportunities for good writing, and you can barely bring any mention to anything mortal. The only thing that matters is gods because the poor dumb mortals can barely grasp what pictures mean. I'd really like to get moving on to the point where instead of gods wandering around doing other things to other gods all on their lonesome, we express our powers by clashing empires against each other.

@WrongEndoftheRainbow

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Unfortunately the crafting gods have claimed dominion over all the tech needed to advance society, like the wheel, so there's not much I can do in that regard.

@WrongEndoftheRainbow

I have a few roleplaying books, including GURPS Ice Age. In it, there is a whole section about limiting with players being too crafty, since having a character inventing stuff is expected, but if it goes unleashed soon the whole thing becomes an uncanny mess far too advanced while far too primitive where Kronk the Stoneman somehow invents Pottery, Ropes, The Wheel, Fire, Farming and Animal Husbandry in a week or less.

Everyone here agrees that Mortals should be able to do stuff. But there is a limit.
Xerxes is basically inventing something new at every post, skipping all sorts of minor techs that would be necessary. Take that with the fact there are at least two or three Xerxes posts a day, and you have something crazy going on.

My trader character from back in the Phantasmagoria was a teenager at the time, now she is probably 30 something. Yet, she was born in a world that barely knew stuff like pottery and if things keep going on like that, by the time she is in her 60s there will be freaking airplanes. That makes no sense.

Also, Wrongend, you are completely misguided when you say:

The only thing that matters is gods because the poor dumb mortals can barely grasp what pictures mean.

My Phantasmagoria post goes completely against everything you said. It's all about advancing tech using mortals. The thing is, it still cost me freepoints, even when I had a Diva of Flowers and Herbs teaching mortals about Herbalism, that is the rule of the game.

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@Cyclone@LokiLeo789

I think ideograms are going to come along in all of Galbar right now, considering that Phantasmagoria introduced Petroglyphs.

I did a little update on the tech tree

I decided to mark Xerxes stuff as its own thing because otherwise the RP is just going to move far too fast with its technology. I mean, Amartia is already flirting with classical age stuff from what I can tell.

We need to set up the animal domestication across the globe. I think I can do dogs and cats.

The stonehenge stuff, the megalith monuments and all that, leave it to me too. That is why I created the grand parade.

Alefpriel's harbor is probably going to spread sailing across Jvan's ocean, on Xerxes side however, the tech probably will take a while longer to arrive, unless there is some intervention.

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Well we are quite behind then. We hitting the bronze age and have no wheel, math, reading, or writing. Xerxes should some of develp that on thier own at this point. Humanity did. As for horses, we got goblins, there bound to do stupid stuff like jump on the back of a big, strong, moody, panicky, bucking, skull-cracking, unpredictable creature. It all has to start somewhere. Aren't you glad someone decided to suck from a cows utter?

@LokiLeo789

Well, that is because we are "hitting" the bronze age, as in, getting close to it. There isn't even bronze around yet, so it's not that time yet.

There is no need to rush stuff because in the OOC we started to refer to this time as "Bronze Age".

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@LokiLeo789
Yeah, but its going to cost might no?

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As far as I know there are no Cow/Sheep domesticating or horse riding.

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Holographic Games (even if not Card Games) is set up

Now I need to bring in the waifu cards, make Lifprasil play the game as Vesamera, and this all will become a reference to an animu nobody ever watched.



But really, what I truly care about is the sweet TCG money that will arrive in a thousand years or so.