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@SleepingSilence Calling someone andy rand isnt the same as calling someone insecure, but that depends on your definition of an insult so whatever.

and Charles Murray and Jared Taylor have huge academic profiles and have written books and have their own very popular websites and are cited by many race revisionists, again I said your point about being 'youtube popular' isnt a very good indicator for how 'well known' someone is. Not everybody notable has enough free time to upload a funny and or compelling 15 min video every week. You asked me to find you ONE libertarian race revisionist and I found you two and yes they are both very well known. You dont sell thousands of copies of a book without being popular. And they dont have their own shows because like I said not everyone has time for their own shows, these are both old respectable academic men.

And I didn't say they spoke for the entire movement, but you were asking me to justify my position on what I said about libertarians and notable figures are race revisionists, road haters, (roads are a socialist construct remember) and gun toters, I'm sure there are many who arent but the loud voice of the few will drown out the quiet voice of the many, similar to your nasty SJWs who get all the screen and press time because they are inflammatory.

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@Dervish Yep sounds good, I love a good ol' ragtag bunch of adventurers with unclear goals and good hearts story.

You have my allegiance.

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You make it sound like it needs to confess it's sins. XD But I can't say you can't find political leaning in games, movies and music sometimes obnoxious or I'd be a hypocrite. But I can nearly guarantee it didn't make anyone change their political opinion...

My argument that naivety is better than malicious intent. Is basically a fact or I don't know many that would disagree...And 2+2=5 and 2+2=100 and one being more right than another is also a literal scientific fact. I admitted that both may lead to problems. Also passion doesn't always equal lunatic. Not quite what I'm going for here...

Also, despite most memes in general being cringe. That has some absolute fact to back that up.

"In studies involving interviews of felons, one of the reasons the majority of burglars try to avoid occupied homes is the chance of getting shot. (Increasing the odds of arrest is another.) A study of Pennsylvania burglary inmates reported that many burglars refrain from late-night burglaries because it's hard to tell if anyone is home, several explaining "That's the way to get shot." (Rengert G. and Wasilchick J., Suburban Burglary: A Time and a Place for Everything, 1985, Springfield, IL: Charles Thomas.)

By comparing criminal victimization surveys from Britain and the Netherlands (countries having low levels of gun ownership) with the U.S., Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck determined that if the U.S. were to have similar rates of "hot" burglaries as these other nations, there would be more than 450,000 additional burglaries per year where the victim was threatened or assaulted. (Britain and the Netherlands have a "hot" burglary rate near 45% versus just under 13% for the U.S., and in the U.S. a victim is threatened or attacked 30% of the time during a "hot" burglary.)"

TLDR: Basically we get robbed less in USA, especially hot burglary (meaning robbed while still home.) Because people fear getting shot.

@SleepingSilence

EDIT: and your mnaking another blanket assertion you cant say that movies games literature have no effect on someone's political leanings, do you realise how many people became libertarians after reading Atlus Shrugged or George Orwell's 1984?

And how many people became anti war after watching platoon or saving private ryan?

Powerful forms of media can inform opinions, not everyone's but to say no ones is a little short sighted.

Naivety and Malicious intent is not the same as passion and non passion, you realize you can be passionately malicious right? and you can also be passively naive? Don't compound those things, you can't assert that 'many would agree that its a fact' not when you are making leaps of definition like that.

I agree that passion doesn't equal lunatic, and non passion also doesn't equal cold calculating lex luthor figure, this furthers my point on how irrelevant it is to a political ideology, 'Passion' is theatrics which contribute to the cult of personality, how much you like or want to side with an individual, but logically it doesn't really matter.

And those gun stats are fine, I just said I'm not making a an anti gun argument, this is why I think youre sensitive and lumping me in with some leftist gun banning hippies, I just told you I dont give a shit about the U.S.A.'s gun policy, dont strawman me sir. I said the meme was cringey and thats was my explanation for using the 'gun toting' comment. I dont have to have stance on gun rights to realise that a meme is a cringey attempt to look tough.

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You make it sound like MRA is a bad thing, and I have never seen libertarians who call themselves MRA. Libertarians are anti SJW, but that doesn't make them MRA. Also are you aware that meninism is satire?

@Weird Tales

You will agree just because you havent seen them it doesn't mean they dont exist.

I think we can agree that there are libertarians who are also men's rights activists, that's not a stretch of the imagination.

Yes I know meninist is satire, youve both seem to have taken that joke rant a little too personally. I thought SJWs were supposed to be the sensetive ones.

And yes I think some MRA's are passive aggressive reactionary assholes, just like some feminists, I'm egalitarian, I don't have to side with either one.

@SleepingSilence Okay thats a tad nitpicky, I know tumblr has angry SJWs on it mainly from other people's anecdotes, that's not the same as following it, especially not enough to know about some person angela and some writer who ruined her career, If you're looking for hypocrisy you will have to search a little harder.

Funnily enough, I don't get my 'libertarian experience' from popular youtubers, its not a big ego trip like youtube feminism or trump supporters. The libertarian's I meet are in real life debates, youth panels, speakers corner, and non publicised discussions on facebook or twitter. I dont think libertarians are about getting on youtube and hoarding views like that.

And this guy is a race revisionist libertarian.



Jared Taylor is a controversial figure but hes a still a self described libertarian.

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@SleepingSilence Oh and for the record I never said I hated bioshock for any reasons, I said creating libertarians is another reason not to forgive it. But there are plenty of reasons why I dont forgive bioshock, that are totally non political.

And I'm sorry but your passion argument isn't really holding up, your perceived idea of someone elses passion isnt a good thing just because you say it is. It depends on what the person is pushing. Anita Sarkeesian does make a lot of innacuruaces with her assesment of some games, wether or not shes passionate about these views make no difference to me, if she was shouting more and holding her fist up while talking I wouldn't have any more respect for her, that's not how you make a point.

And to answer the side question I dont live in a country where guns are allowed, I dont really care what the U.S. does with their guns its not my problem. I called libertarians 'gun toting' because they make cringey tough guy memes like this:

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@SleepingSilence I think that your comments about SJWs arent too different from my comments about libertarians, you dont agree with the movement so you poke fun at them. You can say the majority of SJWs are rude and calling 'everyone' racist/sexist whatever but the reality is you havent met enough SJWs to make a overall comment on their behavior as I haven't met enough libertarians to justify saying they are ALL the way I say they are, but I'm generalizing to point out an issue with the ideology. And some libertarians do consider themselves centrist, they refer to themselves being in 'the middle' of left and right wing politics.

@Dynamo Frokane you don't sound like a centrist, you sound like an SJW who are anything but centrist.

And how are libertarians meninists? Jesus that makes no sense dude. You sound like that awful writer who ruined Angela with her Tumblr feminist crap

@Weird Tales

Some libertarians are meninist/MRA types, feminism clashes with their idea of freedom. Now please summarize why I am and SJW and how you've come to this conclusion, because you seem like you are just trying to label anything that doesn't agree with you as an SJW.

I have no idea who Angela or this tumblr writer is, I dont follow tumblr as much as you do it seems.

And yeah, saying I'm insecure is just a dumb ad-hominem attack that I wont justify with a response, troll harder Andy Rand.

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also, if you are so dogged to restart that libertarian argument again, don't leave me holding the door dammit. i'm busy af

@Vilageidiotx

Dont pretend like you dont enjoy being the one man army.

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you hate Libertarians?

@Weird Tales

I dont hate anyone that I dont know. But I dislike the ideology with the movement just as you probably dislike SJWs or whatever.

On a side note I hate the way that libertarians try and pose as 'centrists' because they are pro-gun rights and pro-weed or whatever.

just because they aren't classic democrats or republicans doesn't mean they are in the middle the spectrum is wider than that, they are 'freedom mongers' usually anarchist hipsters who want to keep a free market. Nothing balanced about that.

I'm a centrist, I don't need need some road hating, vaping, gun toting, Meninist, Gary Johnson voting, race revisionists stinking up my political position.

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@Dynamo Frokane

I don't think enthusiasm in politics is really a bad thing. (though it can become it or annoying at the very least. :P) And that political group, agree with them or not, usually are the most passionate. I mean I think hating any one group is a little misguided. I suppose like a fandom, yes particular ones can be annoying as all hell. But eh...

@SleepingSilence

I dont agree with the characterisation that I 'hate' any particular person, or I'm hating on something for no good reason. I dont agree with libertarians, how passionate they are means nothing to me, trump supporters are passionate, sanders supporters are passionate. Neo-Confederates have an 'interest' in politics. Tumblrites have 'enthusiasm'. This is all irrelevant to me, I dont personally hate anyone I don't know but I disregard the libertarian movement just as you may very well disregard the anita sarkseesian thing.

Disliking a movement politically isnt the same as 'hate' we need to stop throwing that word around.

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I'm interested, is this a fellowship story? Or will the characters break off and their own thing sandbox style?

Also will there be a level up system? Or some sort of progression?

Looks very detailed overall though.