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Most anticipated Games of 2018-2019

@Dynamo Frokane Are you openly dissing kingdom hearts on a site full of weebs?

@tex

I diss Fallout, The Witcher and Doki Doki Literature Club on a site filled with pseudo intellectuals. So I guess you can say I'm a bit of a masochist.

Underrated and Overrated Video Games

@Fabricant451 Im not quote cutting your text wall.

But you have done a great job of telling me what SC and Tekken have innovated on inception. The 3D fighter. Yep they did.

Now Tekken has had 7 iterations not counting the spin offs and SC has had 5. With all those sequels youve given a grand total of 5 innovations between them. And this is a series that has been around for far longer than Smash Bros.

If you want to get into the nitty gritty mechanics of Tekken and straight up ignore, the air dodge, spot dodging, power shielding, short hopping, wavedashing, moonwalking, meteor smash, sweet spotting, chain grabbing and about a million other fine tuned innovations to the games which you just refuse to acknowledge then this is not a conversation. Moves are upgraded, nerfed, buffed, different frame data and priority not only with every update but with every game. Reducing it down to 'Mario throws a cappy instead of a Cape based on the FIRST gameplay trailer ive game neing relased 6 months from now' being the only change is ridiculous.

Also smash brothers is literally its own Genre, you cant suck Tekken's dick for innovating 3D and just causally ignore the inception of the mascot brawler which was shamelessly ripped off by games like Digimon Rumble Arena and Playstation All Stars.

Smash is its own genre, its a party mascot brawler that doesnt fit neatly into your simplified understanding of games. It has fighting mechanics and party mechanics. Its a game that has fighting in it that doesnt fit for a hyper competetive scene because its built to be a multiplayer with item pick ups and pseudo platforming. You dont see the One Piece or Naruto games at EVO either even though they have fighting game mechanics.

Throw some anime tits in there and you'll probably lap it up.

@Fabricant451

What you mean like those oversized anime tits in that game Starless you like where those maids shit and piss on each other? You might be projecting a little here.

The Political Thread

Coming from someone who doesn't seem to understand the point I made in the first place.

It was/is right now, hence why I'm commenting on it.

@SleepingSilence

So here's a point you clearly do not understand.

Threads have a multitude of different topics and different people discussing different things in tandem. Judging the entire thread based on the odd argument is very short sighted. Or do you need to be reminded of all the times it doesn't happen? Because you seem to be struggling with that fact.

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@Fabricant451

Yeah yeah, give me some functional ways in which Tekken and Soul Calibur have changed and innovated over the years. I'd love to hear them. Apart from adding super moves and characters because Smash has done that too.

Funny how you grand stand about judging a game on its own merits but make zero actual points about what the franchise is doing wrong and how it can improve. What standard does it fail on exactly? Being a Mascot Party Fighter filled to the brim with fanservice?

Why do you constantly do this whole "YEAH BUT THOSE OTHER GAMES!" as if that somehow absolves the one you like from criticism. You keep harping on examples when you've provided no reasons why Smash isn't guilty as well. What makes Smash better than other games that you incorrectly accuse of being the same thing. Smash is so desperate to be seen as a legitimate fighting game but it's swimming in the kiddie pool.

@Fabricant451

Guilty of fucking WHAT?

Not being a game fabricant likes? Jesus christ you could fill a police state with games guilty of that.

Fighting games rarely innovate. They add characters and moves, if there is some Fabricant and Mara secret to making amazing games in that genre I'd love to hear them. If not then shut the fuck up.

Smash is LITERALLY doing the opposite of being seen as legitimate fighting game, with direct quotes from the developers about how it was always supposed to be a party game and not alienate the casual crowd. And since when is game's worth based on it's standing in the competitive scene? You already consider Virtua Fighter to be high quality fighting game, how popular is it on the competitive scene right now? (or ever).

I'm not gonna waste brain energy on thinking of ways to improve fighting games I have no real interest in just for it to be disregarded because "muh Smash".

@Mara

Yeah saying a game should 'innovate' in the broadest possible sense when you have no idea what that innovation should be is a waste of brain energy, we can agree there.

Too bad. I start tech school in September. You probably won't like anything I put out because there won't be scantily clad anime girls that want you to take their clothes off by matching fruit.

@Mara

Yeah it is a shame, I guess I'll have to make do with your isometric cyberpunk 'Retraux' RPG where the edgy white protaganist says nigga along with the crappy low-fi hip hop soundtrack. Cant wait.

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Miss me with that gay shit.

@Mara

So you're not purchasing the last of us 2?

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I literally showed you where you mentioned other franchises. You don't have to provide specifics to mention something.

Again with the specifics. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I was referring to all those franchises. Sorry I don't want to type out the exact same response 5 times.

@Mara

So you're literally just saying 'games should change it up'. But giving no examples of what should be changed for improvement on well established fighting game franchises that no one seems to have a problem with. Please never become a developer.

Maybe we should make Fallout into a JRPG with dancing minigames. You know, just to keep things fresh.

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Hahaha are you kidding me? It was literally your own words.

@Mara

I literally mentioned smash and nothing else. I take it you don't have any examples, or that dementia quote was projection on your end.

If you can't think of any way to evolve your franchise or change up the formula then that's probably the time to stop making that franchise.

@Mara

Do you apply the same rules for Tekken, Soul Calibur, Mortal Kombat, or Virtua Fighter or are you going to casually ignore these comparisons?

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You judging other franchises for actually mildly developing their formula to "stay relevant" when all Smash does is stay the exact fucking same and add new characters to cash in on nostalgia/hype shows you haven't paid enough attention to defend it.

@Mara

Which other franchises am I judging exactly? Do you have examples or are you talking out of your ass again?

Maybe if something isn't broke don't fix it. Seems to work for Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead Or Alive and Mortal Kombat. What is your suggestion of major change to make Smash 'better'? Tag Mode? Clothing Damage?

The Political Thread

I can...through secondary/outside means.

@SleepingSilence

What makes this online thing more secondary or outside to another online thing, is it not all just online? Where are you drawing the distinction?

Kind of my entire point, yes. And that's unbelievably rich. But it's clear literally everyone is ignoring what got this closed the last time.

@SleepingSilence

Well it's a bit of stupid point.

Also you know that a thread isnt one all encompassing argument. Its a series of many different debates and topics. And yes you did engage in debates that were civil on there. So my point stands.

That people can't learn to not hold grudges, and speak like human beings and follow the rules? Not a personal statement mind. I don't directly engage most people who make problems with me. I've always spoke broadly and generally, and those people throw themselves upon me. (I rest my case.)

And, it's "broad" because that's on purpose. In my real life, no one really even follows politics enough to have a worthwhile discussion about it. This forum ain't the only online barren wasteland of political dialogue.

There's literally an argument, happening with a moderator present. So I guess it makes it okay. About scorning someone for not being helpful in their workplace. What does that have to do with politics? Do you -have- to like/know me, for my point to be anymore legitimate?

@SleepingSilence

People can do those things. You are literally ignoring all the discourse that has happened in all the threads that has happened in a civil manner, you're only focusing on the big arguments.

You say you are speaking generally but you engage with things you disagree with just like everyone else does. Your approach doesn't really differ to most of the approaches on here to begin with, but you seem to like to talk down about these threads while repeatedly enaging with them. You would think you would just stay away but you can't help yourself.

The argument seems to be more about the politics of the legitimacy of a national language, it also seems like the people 'arguing' are actually friendly with each other and aren't taking anything too personally, who are you to decide how people should react to civil discourse? If they feel it's getting out of hand they can say something.

Most anticipated Games of 2018-2019

@Fabricant451 It did fail me.

It didn't fail people _{like you} who think the KH series are good games.

Underrated and Overrated Video Games

Nintendo had a weak showing because Smash is lame as shit and a Smash with the twist of "We put everyone in it you babies" is still lame as shit.

@Fabricant451

Dynamo shits on popular franchises to bait.....

And Smash doesn't have 'twists' it has a formula that doesn't change and it adds new fighters with every iteration. You judging it alongside other franchises which need to pull obscure gimmicks to stay relevant shows you haven't paid enough attention to call it 'lame'.