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Most NPs screw logic so hard that there's even no point in trying to find gaps on them. One of the free NP that I've ever seen that had an exploitable gap is Tsubame Gaeshi and serious gap is mostly Not!Kojiroh screwing himself.

Truth be told Musashi probably wouldn't even have won of he had fought Not!Kojiroh ok a beach unless he had Instinct as high as Arthuria there's no conceivable easy to avoid Tsubame Gaeshi while on even ground, that said, obviously he fought the man named Kojiroh, but not the man who could do the Tsubame Gaeshi or the man who wielded the Monohoroshizao.

Anyway, that skill is mostly useless, since little to no NPs can be exploited.

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But what about these two?
This has been bothering me for a while now.

@Zobozun

Uno's explanation is lacking a bit of clarification from his own words. It's meant to bar the entry of canon Servants with incomplete stats/unknown features. The very same reason why I gave up on Boudica and ran with El Cid, because damn GO hadn't snatched him yet.

That said, non canon variants of a canon servant would be accepted, right? I mean things like Archer Heracles, or Saber Diarmuid would have they been game, 'cause I feel it's a fair point (not that it masters now, but maybe in a future installment of this RP the question may rise, knowing the answer now would be interesting nonetheless).

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Fixed that for ya.

@Moonman

Sey-chan's Advise Corner special note:

"Hahahaha, it's so funny that It think I'm gonna die. Someone, give a cookie to this person, now."

By the way, everyone, according to KOHA-ACE, the cult's identity is a very interesting one.

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And then the cult abducted a bizarrely ginger Japanese man with decent magic circuit count who helped maintain the Servant out of an underdeveloped hero complex.

@Lonewolf685

Said man would indeed exist, but he can't have a hero complex if he never met a certain mage killer (who should be alive as well, by all means) amidst a certain fire. For all that's worth it, he might be a royal scumbag and most likely has not a single clue about what magecraft is.

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Oh man, Seyrun is gonna be pissed when she finds out even some backwater cult managed to summon a Servant when she couldn't xD

@Turboshitter

You fail to see the bigger picture of Seyrun's plan as of now. Since she has Caster on her side she might not even need a Servant, to say the truth.

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It being in a Class Container is fine. If you'll be removing a Noble Phantasm, then unless the Personal Skills are just absurd, the only other thing you'll really need to do is lower Class Skills by a rank, in all likelihood.

You'll basically need the lowest maintenance cost ever, since you won't have Grail Support, which is important as I was explaining yesterday. If the rest of the cult is helping maintain it, that'll help.

@Unoedipal

Sey-chan's Advice Corner: "Baka Cult, you need a whole lot of low-lives to do what a single true magus can... baka, baka, baka, What do you think you can accomplish if you don't even understand the foundations upon which you are building a castle? Baaaaka~"

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I don't know what KoL's thought process is there, but that's not the case.

@Unoedipal

Actually, I was jitsu commenting on ok with it one way or another. Anyway, there's always the possibly of cutting the Priest's arm off and throwing it into the Grail, to cover some of the needed mana with his CSs.

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I've been watching the thread for a few days now in case an opportunity came up, and seeing as IncredibleBee would need a Master, I'd like to play that Master. That is, if you'd have us, @Unoedipal.

EDIT: We can always pull the leeching prana from the lives of those in the city card.

@Sodium

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Yeah but the grail's a magical genie wish granting device as it is, so I'd say it could pull out some spare prana.
May also be that an especially wily Heroic Spirit managed to force itself into the Grail War, perhaps forcibly sucking mana out of Fuyuki's ley lines.

@IncredibleBee

What you guys are saying isn't impossible, IMO. But would only make sense for an Avenger Class Servant to be summoned in such a way.

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By the way, up try to reply as soon as I get back home from work in more or less 7 hours.

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@Unoedipal

Ok, because this is a Fate RP and Fate has numbers for everything, and in Seyrun's case it might be worth it to calculate magical power output and od levels in terms of Units (if for nothing else, to better flaunt it to the other noobs), I've taken a read on circuits and magic energy stats and (assuming that C is regular, just like with Servant stats and that scales arithmetically like with Servants) I came up with this count, you can tweak it, but I think it follows canon very closely.

Quantity (of Circuits):

E: 6
D: 12
C: 25
B: 50
A: 75

Quality (x Units each Circuit can process):
E: 5
D: 10
C: 20
B: 30
A: 40

* note: I've made a mistake above but can't edit because I'm on my phone now. Stitch quantity and quality around.

Od (amount one can produce on their own)

The same as quality (A: 25).

Then again, I might have missed something, or screwed the progression, but know that I based out on official numbers for Od and Circuits quantity (25/20) of an average Joe adult magus. While the quality came from Shirou's known bad quality Circuits (10 units each). If you can fix them, do so, cause I would like to know how good Seyrun is in relation to drone else.

As a side note Rin would have about A +++++++++ Od (ridiculous 500 Units) under this count, but her output of 1000 wouldn't be that astronomically high, even with her 30 "sub circuits".