Raineh Daze

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Which comes back to God vs God is dumb.

Mtntopview

Well, neither side would ever win, because if anyone looked like they were about to, the other Chaos Gods would just gang up on them. Endless conflict!

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So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

Raineh Daze

Basically, the Decepticons and the Autobots combined are just above the total level of the Space Marines. This is not counting the Sisters of Battle, any of the Ordos (Hereticus, Malleus, Xenos), or the Imperial Guard. Unicron would be treated as a major campaign for the Navy, but not any worse than, say, what Cadia deals with every time Abaddon comes a-knocking or what's brewing over at Orktavius. WH40k doesn't focus on naval battles a lot, but just by the fluff, they get to some rip-shit insanity in space.

Earnest Evans

Your forgetting the 13 original Primes. Each one of them is god-like

Mtntopview

Several 40k armies throw actual gods onto the battlefield. Mostly in pieces. They wreck things. Unicron's too small-scale in actual ability to bother the place.

Raineh Daze

This god shit is getting confusing

Mtntopview

Yup. So forget the god thing, and it's best to just focus on the fact that whilst he IS powerful, he only eats planets at a time, and the Imperium has both billions of those and is liable to blow him up. Thus delaying further planet-eating by stupidly long amounts of time. Much like there's a machine controlling stargod buried in Mars. 40k is weird.

Raineh Daze

Well ... Unicron is more like the manifestation of evil and chaos. He seeks to return the universe to what it was like before things were things. He does it by devouring not only planets, but Suns and even the fabric of reality itself. I'm not very good at explaining unicron and always get confused. Go to a wiki and research Primus.

Mtntopview

Thus a conflict with the Imperium would just get him into a direct fight with the Chaos Gods, absolving anyone else of the need to do anything. Problem solved.

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Say, Vita, I've been meaning to ask - what's the UMMA's relationship with other big multiverse-spanning organisations like the TSAB? I mean, do they share resources, or just let eachother handle their own jurisdictions, etc?

Minder

I've always viewed the TSAB as more of an interstellar shortcut organisation than a multiverse one, since they seem to deal with one planet systems exclusively.

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So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

Raineh Daze

Basically, the Decepticons and the Autobots combined are just above the total level of the Space Marines. This is not counting the Sisters of Battle, any of the Ordos (Hereticus, Malleus, Xenos), or the Imperial Guard. Unicron would be treated as a major campaign for the Navy, but not any worse than, say, what Cadia deals with every time Abaddon comes a-knocking or what's brewing over at Orktavius. WH40k doesn't focus on naval battles a lot, but just by the fluff, they get to some rip-shit insanity in space.

Earnest Evans

Your forgetting the 13 original Primes. Each one of them is god-like

Mtntopview

Several 40k armies throw actual gods onto the battlefield. Mostly in pieces. They wreck things. Unicron's too small-scale in actual ability to bother the place.

Raineh Daze

This god shit is getting confusing

Mtntopview

Yup. So forget the god thing, and it's best to just focus on the fact that whilst he IS powerful, he only eats planets at a time, and the Imperium has both billions of those and is liable to blow him up. Thus delaying further planet-eating by stupidly long amounts of time. Much like there's a machine controlling stargod buried in Mars. 40k is weird.

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So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

Raineh Daze

Basically, the Decepticons and the Autobots combined are just above the total level of the Space Marines. This is not counting the Sisters of Battle, any of the Ordos (Hereticus, Malleus, Xenos), or the Imperial Guard. Unicron would be treated as a major campaign for the Navy, but not any worse than, say, what Cadia deals with every time Abaddon comes a-knocking or what's brewing over at Orktavius. WH40k doesn't focus on naval battles a lot, but just by the fluff, they get to some rip-shit insanity in space.

Earnest Evans

Your forgetting the 13 original Primes. Each one of them is god-like

Mtntopview

Several 40k armies throw actual gods onto the battlefield. Mostly in pieces. They wreck things. Unicron's too small-scale in actual ability to bother the place.

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Okay. I didn't get the 'exterminatus' thing. Too bad it wouldn't work ... cuz Unicron is a god.

Mtntopview

Ah... put simply, Exterminatus is the complete annihilation of a planet. It comes in many, many flavors, but my most favorite one is the one where a fleet of battleships bigger than Metroplex open fire on the planet until they effectively split it in half at the core. Unicron might be able to win a skirmish against one or two Exterminatus-class Imperial ships, which is why they often come in dozens. The Imperium has plenty of resources to throw away, and that's not even considering the other parties that might want a piece of Unicron. http://youtu.be/h67JpMyrOVE

Earnest Evans

Considering he doesn't just tear the ships apart by whatever his red beam of death is. He eat's planets. Your argument is invalid.

Mtntopview

So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

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They might have the same problem with Raising Heart and Mach Caliber, then, although they probably aren't as obvious AIs as Soundwave.

Minder

Then the fact that they're magical goes off and makes it even worse! :D

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@malmshodes: Okay, looks alright now. @Mtntopview: I'm not really sure why he's UMMA. ^^; @Dead Cruiser: I'm... still working on it, sorry for the wait. @Minder: Accepted so much.

VitaVitaAR

Because in TF Prime, Soundwave was never really evil, he was just loyal to Megatron. When Megatron disbanded the Decepticons, Soundwave no longer had a purpose to exist. Therefore, he chose to throw his loyalty to an organization that approached him with an offer of a second chance. If it's too much trouble, he could be neutral.

Mtntopview

Imperium guys and (particularly obvious) sentient robots on one team. Fun. :D

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I see no objections to Angron! : D

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Clearly this is the best character idea.