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@Dinh AaronMk Same point. Different words. I'll just say I was "memeing" to automatically be unable to be criticized. <.<
"Now, let's keep going: your sister in making jewelry must ultimately get materials that, like with the minerals of the Congo, are derived from the Earth" "Something something silver and gold, slave children."
Just...No. And for saying excuse me, you didn't actually read what I wrote did you? You wrote walls of text but you didn't read a single sentence. That said "finds stones" And that's literally all I need to say to that...
Again, capitalism doesn't hurt people and even if you use that awful "you didn't build that" argument. There's still plenty of examples of people being able to make money, for literally doing NOTHING that exploits, anyone or anywhere.
Basically this entire point, I think boils down, to trade being evil? Because people importing and exporting cheaper goods to make them cheap for the consumer being bad because someone is being underpaid somewhere else...
But those people also don't live in free market capitalism...and even if you take those jobs away, stop the evil people from making people mine, what do they have? >.>
But ignoring that. The whole "benefits in support of the worker we do not often get full value for our work."
I just posted a video that kind of points out everything you said, so I'll paraphrase that.
Effort doesn't need to be paid. Results do. Want to move my lawn? I'll give you 40 bucks. I won't pay you any differently with a push mower or a ride mower. I just want my lawn mowed. You can put effort in something that isn't actually worth anything of value. :/
"A man at Ford can't pick out a car of his choice and drive it off as is, despite having built so many cars for Ford."
Holy shit, that's a bad analogy.
The typical Ford Motor Company Auto Mechanic salary is $52,528. Auto Mechanic salaries at Ford Motor Company can range from $45,653-$65,195.
Uh yeah, you bet your ass ford car mechanics can buy a car....
But you're communism is great point, isn't how an economy thrives. To use another (purposefully) broken analogy. A daycare center can't steal other people children despite doing better jobs raising them and putting more work in than the parents...<.<
"But in the nuanced world of minimum wage and raising it forever, the end cost of a product will itself go up; lending in my mind a raise in minimum wage should be tied to a proportion of the shit done and income brought in."
Clearly provably false, products over time are getting cheaper. Despite minimum wage increasing for years and years. (just slowly) It's easy to look that up yourself. and while I agree minimum wages shouldn't exist as they do now.
weforum.org/agenda/2015/10/why-is-tec…
(Used from several links. That people are too lazy to click.)
Food is cheaper here than almost anywhere else. In 2007, only about 6.9 percent of U.S. consumer spending went for food at home; Germans spent more (11.4 percent), as did Italians (14.5 percent) and Mexicans (24.2 percent).
If you live in the US, your grocery store bill may look lower than normal.
Food prices have fallen 1.6% nationwide since July 2015, according to a new USDA report.
As the Wall Street Journal notes, the US is on track to have the longest stretch of falling food prices in over 50 years. The current food-price slump soon could beat the nine months of declines experienced in 2009 and 2010, which was the longest stretch since 1960, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Seems pretty bogus that products are getting more expensive because of evil capitalism.
"Now, let's keep going: your sister in making jewelry must ultimately get materials that, like with the minerals of the Congo, are derived from the Earth" "Something something silver and gold, slave children."
Just...No. And for saying excuse me, you didn't actually read what I wrote did you? You wrote walls of text but you didn't read a single sentence. That said "finds stones" And that's literally all I need to say to that...
Again, capitalism doesn't hurt people and even if you use that awful "you didn't build that" argument. There's still plenty of examples of people being able to make money, for literally doing NOTHING that exploits, anyone or anywhere.
Basically this entire point, I think boils down, to trade being evil? Because people importing and exporting cheaper goods to make them cheap for the consumer being bad because someone is being underpaid somewhere else...
But those people also don't live in free market capitalism...and even if you take those jobs away, stop the evil people from making people mine, what do they have? >.>
But ignoring that. The whole "benefits in support of the worker we do not often get full value for our work."
I just posted a video that kind of points out everything you said, so I'll paraphrase that.
Effort doesn't need to be paid. Results do. Want to move my lawn? I'll give you 40 bucks. I won't pay you any differently with a push mower or a ride mower. I just want my lawn mowed. You can put effort in something that isn't actually worth anything of value. :/
"A man at Ford can't pick out a car of his choice and drive it off as is, despite having built so many cars for Ford."
Holy shit, that's a bad analogy.
The typical Ford Motor Company Auto Mechanic salary is $52,528. Auto Mechanic salaries at Ford Motor Company can range from $45,653-$65,195.
Uh yeah, you bet your ass ford car mechanics can buy a car....
But you're communism is great point, isn't how an economy thrives. To use another (purposefully) broken analogy. A daycare center can't steal other people children despite doing better jobs raising them and putting more work in than the parents...<.<
"But in the nuanced world of minimum wage and raising it forever, the end cost of a product will itself go up; lending in my mind a raise in minimum wage should be tied to a proportion of the shit done and income brought in."
Clearly provably false, products over time are getting cheaper. Despite minimum wage increasing for years and years. (just slowly) It's easy to look that up yourself. and while I agree minimum wages shouldn't exist as they do now.
weforum.org/agenda/2015/10/why-is-tec…
(Used from several links. That people are too lazy to click.)
Food is cheaper here than almost anywhere else. In 2007, only about 6.9 percent of U.S. consumer spending went for food at home; Germans spent more (11.4 percent), as did Italians (14.5 percent) and Mexicans (24.2 percent).
If you live in the US, your grocery store bill may look lower than normal.
Food prices have fallen 1.6% nationwide since July 2015, according to a new USDA report.
As the Wall Street Journal notes, the US is on track to have the longest stretch of falling food prices in over 50 years. The current food-price slump soon could beat the nine months of declines experienced in 2009 and 2010, which was the longest stretch since 1960, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Seems pretty bogus that products are getting more expensive because of evil capitalism.
