SleepingSilence

What Roleplay section do you mostly post in?

>Warning: Sarcasm May Be Included. Viewer Discretion Is Advised.

Most my actual roleplaying has been on high casual, which basically just means advanced. A detailed post, without adding 1,000 boring words about a lamp and subsequently less chances for it to be riddled with spelling errors. So rarely is excessive length filled with quality and interesting things to read. I generally take it to mean 'want more exposition?' section. :P

I occasionally dabbled in free stuff, because it actually seemed to be more active than low casual at the time. I will probably be doing more 1x1 stuff when I'm not busy with other things.

In all honestly, I don't really think Advanced is any more or less welcoming than the other sections. I also don't think it's different in any other way either. Activity, Post Quality, Using Spellcheck. GM Rules, Co-Gm's knowledge. Friendly OOC Discussions. It doesn't really vary from my experiences/browsing it. I'd say everything is probably equal, the only differences is just how long the actual posts are...

Haven't ever seen Nation/Arena really grab at me, but I'm sure the same thing applies.

The Savage And Subservient (SleepingSilence x KatherinWinter)

@KatherinWinter I guess point taken. x3 But yeah, 'man' on it's own usually should imply adult. Once it hits that level, I'm willing for it to be any age you'd like. I didn't specify because wasn't super important. :P

The Savage And Subservient (SleepingSilence x KatherinWinter)

@KatherinWinter

Well, context clue of Bastian calling them 'drunkards'. I'd reasonably expect them not to be kids. Childish behavior aside.

The two men stood up recoiled, with shaking legs.

If kids, I'd call them boys. If teenagers, I'd call them teens. ;P

People old enough to get drunk at a pub, at the very least. Probably young enough to reasonably run away quickly. You could imagine them in anyway you want otherwise. But adult is the answer to the question. xP

What Are You Listening To?

Music binging time. Solid song/riffing.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane

>Deleted everything I just wrote, because I thought of a better response.

The two things we discussed was Thunderfoot and Stefan. We both asked for videos on their own channel.

I did prove my point with videos of his. It's not an emotional argument, that he is a liar. I just proved it.

You said Stefan is a paid shill, but you admit you didn't have any evidence. But you personally felt that way. Note: I said I won't look down on you for feeling that way.

You bought up Destiny as well. Which I gave tweets that he did send. Sure, it's personal that I dislike Destiny more, because his behavior has always been worse than JonTron's. But we're just making character judgements for the most part. Those will often -be- based in emotional logic.

You shouldn't tell me you think I'm using only emotion, and you're using facts when it's really just "what I dislike about X and why?"

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

The link to the margret thatcher statement seems to be broken, maybe it was a deleted tweet or something, I definitely remember him saying something like that but it was on one of his longer videos so I'm not going to try and dig it up, I'll accept whether you want to take my word for it or not.

He is absolutely a trump supporter, went from just attacking any criticism about him to actively voting for him. As seen here

As far as everything else I'm a little reluctant to start wading through hours of that guy talk for time stamps and context because there are frankly things I cant prove. I cant say for 100% he has or hasnt unsavoury intentions because I cant read his mind, I also cant give you a breakdown of his money driven aspirations because I have no access to his financial records. All I can do is point out his contradictions and shady interactions and accusations. But that really does mean nothing if you are going to give him the benefit of the doubt at every turn.

Now here is a video going in depth with soruces about the guy's behaviour and an earlier even longer on with even more context.

But because these videos were made by thunderf00t It seems like you are going to disregard everything said in the videos, even the things backed up by sources and video evidence. Now I'm no fan of Thunderf00t. He seems like a bit of a creep obsessed with making 500 videos about Anita Sarkeesian and his tone is too condescending for me to listen to for any length of time. But the fact he seemed to get in a spat with Sargon and Lauren Southern and they made response videos might make him out to be pretty combative but it doesn't make him a liar in every instance whatsoever. Especially when Lauren and Sargon aren't the most honest people on youtube if we have to be honest. And losing subscribers doesn't really mean anything. Jon Tron lost a lot of subscribers after the Destiny Debate stuff, but I'm sure you don't view him in the same way.

I don't want you to take this in the wrong way but you seem to be giving one person the benefit of the doubt in every instance and doing the exact opposite for someone else. I don't think its necessarily a political bias, because when it comes to feminism Thunderf00t and Stefan actually have very similar views. But I suspect there is not much more to say on this, so I'll leave it here.

@Dynamo Frokane

It's not just because you said it, or anything. Just healthy to have a skeptical mind. I'm not outright saying he's done nothing wrong. Very few people have spotless records anymore, you're bound to find dirt on just about any human being.

I just did some wading through Trump's voting video and almost all of it was someone else talking about Trump. Not him. But the first thing he does bring up, is "it's not about what trump -will- do, it's what he won't do" He won't go after the 2nd amendment, he won't bring in 3rd world people (a little vague for my personal tastes. He does specify refugees. But there's only one refuge group type that's caused problems for all of Europe. <.<) No more leftist on supreme court. He also doesn't really seemed that enthused. He said, he'll won't pull the breaks, but ya know maybe he won't step on the gas in driving america off a cliff. This seems like the typical reason, most people DID vote for Trump. The Ye Olde, Lesser evil argument. Doesn't seem like he's making a hypocritical argument.

B-but those videos are just from Thunderfoot again...I just wanted an original link video. Or at least someone who hasn't has such problems with lying directly about youtubers before.

Now, I'm not going to defend Laura Southern. Because I do -not- watch her stuff.

But Sargon of Akkad, has never been purposefully dishonest that I can see. He always corrects slip ups he makes and never doubles down. He's more honest about his political beliefs than most.

Well, I never liked Destiny. I could see he was manipulating the conversation. In a way, that reminded me of something like Angry Joe VS. Geoff Keighley. Angry Joe wasn't wrong in ideas. But he was unprepared and was outsmarted. JonTron is not a political activist and shouldn't have debated a manipulator.

But that doesn't work, because Destiny lost all of his when he said like several stupid things in a row. One mocking patreon artists. A few more cherries on top, Then using a bunch of hateful racist language. Making his judgement of JonTron pulling a Mitt Romney. Quite ironic.

Also I'm going to bring up I'm actively searching for Destiny racist quotes...and google has a front page of pewdiepie and jontron shit (ya know almost like leftist who are popular, never get the same coverage for their hateful nonsense.) Google your bias is showing again. Jesus, I found the animator spat before I found the racist quotes...



You don't need to search for it, it seems like you just have a negative gut reaction on them. It's not uncommon for people to hate someone for not completely clear reasons, everyone has that celeb you never met in your life but you can't stand in every movie there in, regardless of performance. I'm not going to look down at you, for disliking someone.

Okay, I don't take it personal that you think that I may take some opinions given to me by you, with a grain of salt. But I assure you, you're not the only one and it isn't just because you're saying it, that makes the statements questionable. I just doubted someone else on this very thread, posting something about VOX and taking them seriously.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Since this came out today, I'd thought I'd share it:


Rather powerful and compelling; it questions so much about people's right to free speech.

@NuttsnBolts

I'd be careful around Vox. They've done a lot of propaganda stuff.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Here is an anti-voting video of his calling it self abuse, specifically mentioning that a democrat or republican will always end up spending more government money, which is consistent with ancap beliefs.

And as you know he became a full on trump supporter when the wave was at its hottest and surprise when people who were trump fans were donating a lot of patreon money to you-tubers who feverishly were into trump-mania.
Trump is in no way an ancap or even a libertarian, but stefan suddenly doesn't see voting as self abuse anymore because a hot topic means hot dollars.

He praised Margret Thatcher who is about as authoritarian as you can get, although claiming to be against all forms of government and especially those who outsource work which hurts the free market.

It's worth mentioning that Molyneux himself was against closed borders during his earlier embrace of the free market. Those videos have been scrubbed from his channel since shift towards the alt-right, though this hasn't stopped in-show callers from reminding him of this, such as 2016's "Andrew". In this video, Andrew points out that supporting violent coercion against refugees is incompatible with NAP. Stefan responds by claiming that morality doesn't apply within a statist society. A few moments later he goes back to saying that it does. Here is the video of the conversation.

Oh and there is other silly shit, he has some odd grudge against women and it surfaces in some of his videos sometimes. He said that Robin Williams killed himself because his ex wife stole all his money. Which Joe Rogan had to correct him on, because he an Willams have the same agent and knows for a fact that he didn't die broke. Stefan clearly made this up to make a broader point about pre-nups. I can give you the links to both on request, but they are both fairly long and it'd be a bit of effort, if you wont take my word for it.

@Dynamo Frokane

Okay, hopefully there's not more posts by the time I go through this...

This one video you sent me seems to be just for something he is consistent about.

1. Okay, so your vote doesn't matter video in a nutshell I assume?

2. Well, I don't know if he became a trump supporter -don't watch him- but a video on it would be nice. And some people wanted trump to win, to spite the democrat party. People voted that way on the left and right. So I'd need more on that, like if he praised something Trump did that went against believes in one of his videos. That be something. For instance.

3. Video on that? Please and thank you.

4. That video is not on his channel and is in fact on a channel obsessed with making videos bashing him specifically. So I don't know I can get "shill" from someone who is doing just that.

Now, if he did change his opinions on something. 180'd if you will. Is there a way to know if it's legit? Are you saying, he's someone that hopped on the Trump bandwagon...and that's the only reason for his different opinions now.

5. Stefan said something about Robin Williams that was inaccurate, that Joe Rogan called him on. Okay. So maybe it was an honest mistake? If, not then he is being dishonest. (with is an odd thing to lie about.) But not a flipflopper. I wasn't arguing that he was the nicest bloke on earth.

But I would like a video about it. Maybe the comments themselves can point out the briefness of them. I'd even accept Joe Rogan's video about it. Though it isn't really my original question.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@SleepingSilence you saw the Stefan vids, correct? Do you now accept I'm not making up facetious statements/jokes like you accused me of?

@Dynamo Frokane

Okay, I mean this as politely as possible. Please. Please, take this constructively. I don't want this to be mud throwing.

Just like people not getting what this means. Or emoticons, being used in the way they are intended to be.

Please don't make this out to be a personal thing. Please.

I never said you're making it up. Or that you made facetious statements. I said Stefan could have said those things, but in a joking way. Not seriously.

And if it was serious. And the mom thing, seems like it was serious and because of getting abused by her.

I asked for whole context videos, on things he flipflopped on politically. Or even shilled for money for something he doesn't really believe in.

Not about him being a bad guy. Which these two videos you posted (which didn't have full context either) are making that point instead.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane

Those aren't full videos with context. Or on his own channel. I would like context on why he said those things. So I want the full video.

Also a comment on the mother video.

"The comments are nuts. He stated his mother beat him, didn't feed him for periods of time, neglected him, didn't even provide basics for him like okay clothes and deodorant, and somehow he's supposed to leave that situation wishing her well.

Essentially, if his accounts are true at the least she deserves to be in prison. "

Sounds like some legit bad blood with the mom, but certainly not just for politics, if this is true. (or even if not.) He still is saying this is why he dislikes the mom.