SleepingSilence

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

You called my friend a robot.

@Fabricant451

And you pretend that I'm the moral crusader.

I ain't reading the rest of that.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

30 hours in an RPG that’s been out for less than a week here is not bad at all lmao

@Bee

It honestly takes me forever to play most games for even a few consecutive hours. But I didn't think I'd have to say that I was being facetious.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

I've played more MMOs than you.

@Fabricant451

I'm glad you just know that. :) (Hope that numbers over a hundred.)

But I very much doubt it. Nor do I think I'm gaining much from continuing this.

You literally are playing Warframe.

@Fabricant451

I'm playing Warframe again. But f*ck me the in-game currency is overly expensive and needed for everything.

@SleepingSilence

When there's a game I am not interested in, I don't give it any attention.

You're not some arbiter of gaming taste. Don't talk mean things about a game that people like.

Oh I see. GameFreak deliberately released a game without certain Pokemon and then later, released popular Pokemon DLC as one of its main selling points. As every honest person in the world predicted they would. I already bought the Sword and Shield expansion pass, what's your point? That companies release DLC? And that's bad?

@Fabricant451

Yes. You are indeed, making my point for me. (And you don't have to include, "the stuff in red is different than my several paragraphs of writing". I know that.)

Because I understand how you're allowed and supposed to critique things you play and enjoy. So "you not giving attention to things you don't like". And "but many people like this thing with shitty practices" are two moot points to what's true and being argued.

1. Those games you like, can be made better.

2. Those devs can treat their customers better, and only will, if there's backlash to what fans don't like.

But when you ignore what you dislike, and can't admit valid critique of things that you do like. I guess, do you. But it's not helping anyone.

Though yes, those images I put here, were and are the only examples of what others described. That's a good faith response alright.

But that's precisely why this conversation can't go anywhere. Since you're own ultimate "gotcha" is "I have to experience the censorship firsthand in-game to know and hate that it exists on a wider scale." (The joke there is you literally can't. It's censored/removed for fuck sake.)

(Because I played that shit-awful pokemon game. And I still "wasn't allowed" by your standards, to point out what my roommate hated about Pokemon.) So I doubt, you'd really put much more effort into discussing flaws about any game that you happen to enjoy.

But fine. You don't have to. But don't tell me, "no one is making that argument" when its all I'm seeing all over my social media. And you've even agreed to those very points I find erroneous/egregious.

You're being an ass to someone who likes the game.

@Fabricant451

1. The rich youtuber (and Amazon) will live.

2. I think the anons that I was critiquing will live as well.

3. Me sharing bad first impressions about media, are not, and will never be a "personal character attack" like calling someone an ass is.

4. And if you mean making dumb robot puns. I just thought it was funny. Because bot messages/reviews are usually both short, don't capitalize, nor punctuate sentences. So pardon me.

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Case in point, did a rant with the goal to rant.

I don't intend to get in a pissing contest over how many multiplayer games 'with unique mechanics such as dodging' that I've played with you.

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I can't call the second season of Infinity Train, "a bad cartoon". (Because it isn't. It builds from season one more than I expected it too, and it has some decent creative moments in its second half.)

But in its efforts to be a more cohesive story. It became significantly less enjoyable than the previous part. Since it's main character is literally named MT. (Empty) Because they're a husk of a previous character, and they're defined by what they aren't/don't want to be. Hence, a bad character.

Plus, the (lul so random) humor is almost non-existent and comes from a single character that exists to create and resolve half of the episodes conflicts. So, I go into "the dark" 3rd season, with hopes that it can be executed better.

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The third season is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Better animation and an arguably more compelling lead. (Than season 2.) But it's basically a modern comic that can't make a 'villain arc' to save its soul. With some pretty bad writing to boot. But at least one of the writers got to kill off her ex-boyfriend in a kids show?

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

I still have yet to hear from you, yes YOU.

You're going to be waiting a while. Cuz I'm not playing the game to find out. If anyone cared, they could look through other peoples various complaints about the game for themselves.

And there's more than three or four ARPG/MMO-type games where you can dodge roll. Believe me.

because you know you can't actually truly critique a game without playing it yourself.

And I know you've said this before. But you're just as wrong as you were before. You can (and should) critique a game's censorship, and various other shitty practices, without suffering them for yourself.

If only because hundreds more will go "but something something, this is worse and you have no proof they designed their game this way, so you could pay for things later down the line."

Buy your Pokemon Sword&Shield pokedex expansions pack now.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

u can dodge roll though which is something a bit more unique to the MMO space.

I can't help but feel like you're making fun of my earlier statement, while also getting said statement wrong.

@Fabricant451

My humor can indeed be hyperbolic, yes. But um yeah, dodge rolling (or jumping) is not unique to Lost Ark. Not even a bit.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

An advocate for diversity in media

But a game that is free to play is absolutely going to find some way to make money.

@Fabricant451

1. Yeah. There's a right and wrong way to add inclusion. But advocates don't tend to care about how its done/how much sense it makes. So long as it happens. And look at how fucking terrifying they made that character's face.

2. See above. There's a right and wrong way to handle your game and its practices. When you encourage players "to get rid of the grind", what do you think happened first? A. They saw player feedback and added paid options to help. B. They designed the game to be slow, monotonous and grindy. To add paid options to get impatient and frustrated players to spend their money.

Also, any time I see a defender of something use a "this bad too" argument. They don't seem to grasp that the arguer will more than likely dislike those practices even more than the one that's now bringing them up. (Because they're only doing it for 'whataboutisms' for their defense. And not through genuine concern or actual critique of bad consumer practices, which motives the one doing the criticizing in the first place.)

So, to sum this up in the best way possible.

"Pay to win games can be good guys. guys. And bad games can suck for other reasons. Guys guys." Is a shit argument.

And if you like something and actually want it to succeed, you'd critique it's negative points and bad consumer practices. My two cents anyway.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

not sure what you're on about, i have like almost 30 hours in it

@Hey Im Jordan

If my humor doesn't compute. Reboot your system.

And only 30 hours on an MMO? Pff Newbz.

But you shouldn't be shilling for free, ya know. Amazon's paying peeps $100 bucks daily to play it. So hit 'em up, and make sure you also mention how good it is that you can dodge roll attacks in it. And how you don't see that in any MMO's.

Beside Guild Wars, New World, *starts listing endlessly to make a point without actually wasting effort to look them up.*

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

Lost Ark is a great game, I think I'm gonna max my first character today. Super excited for the endgame

@Hey Im Jordan

You forgot to add the 'Beep Boop'.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

Is this really the hill you want to die on, my guy

@Fabricant451

No, I assumed it was your hill.

If a game has numerous bad/mobile-game practices. Why waste so much time defending it?

Also, realize that I've not made any "pay to win" arguments. All of its defenders have. And it screams, lady doth protest too much.