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We can easily say and prove that Argius is smarter than Vestec. Knowledge is Reality. Reality is both Chaos And Order. Try trumping someone who has his foot in your domain.


Easy. Just break all of his things. :D
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We can easily say and prove that Argius is smarter than Vestec. Knowledge is Reality. Reality is both Chaos And Order. Try trumping someone who has his foot in your domain.


Without help from both Order and Chaos there is no Knowledge. There can be Reality without Knowledge but not vice versa.
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Knowledge cannot exist unless there is life capable of knowing it.

Order and chaos mean nothing in a static universe. Life alone can perceive what order and chaos are, their effects, and work toward one or the other.
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Knowledge cannot exist unless there is life capable of knowing it.

Order and chaos mean nothing in a static universe. Life alone can perceive what order and chaos are, their effects, and work toward one or the other.


There can be Order and Chaos without Life but not vice versa.
Heck there can be Order without Chaos but not vice versa.
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In a wider definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. It does not need life in order to exist. If anything exists, no matter what it is, then there is Reality.
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*Notices philosophical discussion arising*

No. No. All of you are wrong in one way or the other

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!

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In a wider definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. It does not need life in order to exist. If anything exists, no matter what it is, then there is Reality.


By that definition Knowledge and Reality are not even close to being one. Knowledge requires it to be observable and/or comprehensible.

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One more, heavy philosophical point must be made: One does not simply eat the eternal whip of fire. >xD

Philosophical point number two: Vowzra. 'nuff said
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Krakens.

Best way to end arguments. Ever.
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By that definition Knowledge and Reality are not even close to being one. Knowledge requires it to be observable and/or comprehensible.


Exactly, knowledge is the observation of reality, nothing more.

Being the God of Knowledge does not make Agruis come even close to having greater control over reality than the others, it simply makes him good at observing what is already there.
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"You're all mad. The only Reality that exists is everything you experience in the present, the rest either ceased to exist or doesn't exist yet. Concepts like Chaos and Order are useless, created by mortals and gods to explain things as simple as patterns of actions and strings of moments. Nothing but what you're perceiving truly exists to you in that moment."

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Krakens.

Best way to end arguments. Ever.


Pizza is better.


One more, heavy philosophical point must be made: One does not simply eat the eternal whip of fire. >xD

Philosophical point number two: Vowzra. 'nuff said


Time requires Order otherwise it will fold up into itself.
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Pizza is better.


What about...a Kraken with a pizza, or a pizza-delivery man who is also a Kraken?

Or even a Kraken Pizza?
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What about...a Kraken with a pizza, or a pizza-delivery man who is also a Kraken?

Or even a Kraken Pizza?


So this

or this

^Squid I know but there are squid-like species of kraken
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But, seriously, being the God of Knowledge give Arguis precisely zero control over Reality, Chaos, or Order - it just help him to observe and comprehend those things.
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The business' name? KRAZZA, where you get the best of both worlds--Kraken and Pizzas
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Exactly, knowledge is the observation of reality, nothing more.

Being the God of Knowledge does not make Agruis come even close to having greater control over reality than the others, it simply makes him good at observing what is already there.


That makes sense, Knowledge of reality must contain all known descriptions of facts as well as all unknown descriptions of facts. In other words, knowledge must remain incomplete and sometimes, incorrect when we fail to describe facts correctly.

Since Arguis only has an extensive, but limited knowledge of reality, Arguis cannot be considered having control over it. But he does have a much greater grasp over it than the other. I enjoyed this Philosophical debate.
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The business' name? KRAZZA, where you get the best of both worlds--Kraken and Pizzas


I think we just found our next Demigod...
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Time requires Order otherwise it will fold up into itself.


Now now, if there is anything that is wholly independent of order, chaos, krakens, Astartian philosophy, pizzas, life and whatnot; it is Time. Time does not need order or chaos to exist, it grinds on no matter what. It is the only TRUTH, the only REALITY.
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That makes sense, Knowledge of reality must contain all known descriptions of facts as well as all unknown descriptions of facts. In other words, knowledge must remain incomplete and sometimes, incorrect when we fail to describe facts correctly.

Since Arguis only has an extensive, but limited knowledge of reality, Arguis cannot be considered having control over it. But he does have a much greater grasp over it than the other. I enjoyed this Philosophical debate.


As did I.

But mostly I enjoyed the Kraken Pizza
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