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Anything East of Africa, generally. Pacific holdings would've either been eaten by a country like Japan, or fallen under the protection of Australia/New Zealand when Britain was unable to. Then anything in the Indian Ocean would have probably been taken by (whatever came of India) or East African breakaway colonies, like Tanganyika or even South Africa.

Anything in the Atlantic should be fair game, with maybe the exception of the Falkland Islands, which could have been gobbled by/sold to Argentina.

In my opinion as a former Britain player in this RP. :P


I see. Well your opinion is noted and I'm not particularly against losing further overseas possessions if it makes sense in the setting. I will however wait and see the GM's ruling on the matter.

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The African colonies are lost. Some of those, like Tanganyika, were German colonies that only became British after WW1. Since nobody wins the Great War in this timeline, Tanganyika doesn't become British and all the breakaway movements gain traction. If we have a South African player, they should take a shot at a Boer Republic actually.

Those nations with strong independence movements likely broke away. Those without strong independence movements likely didn't.


Alright, noted.
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My ruling is likely to lean on consultation with at least Vilage, since he's the only one currently active of the oldest old guard if I have any issues. But I'll have to lean on the consensus made in this thread: that the UK probably would have retained its Atlantic ocean territories and Americas possessions.

Though also given how the British Empire functions, Australia and New Zealand as much as Canada are probably still in some lose association with the British Empire. So at worse many of the smaller British possessions in the Pacific could be argued to have been shifted over to Australian administration in something akin to CK2 title management.
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@Dinh AaronMk, does that also mean Belize because I have planned on annexing them.
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@Dinh AaronMk, does that also mean Belize because I have planned on annexing them.


That's something to work out with Lone Wanderer. Do you really want to upset the British Empire?
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@Dinh AaronMk, I am sure that he can deal with it since he (somehow) managed to get back all of his colonies in the Atlantic.
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@Dinh AaronMk, I am sure that he can deal with it since he (somehow) managed to get back all of his colonies in the Atlantic.


It's not really "getting back" if they never lost them. The Atlantic is reasonably close enough for them to have retained control after the war, even if it was loose control.
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@The Spectre I look forward to seeing the Central American declaration of war on my desk then.
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@The Spectre I look forward to seeing the Central American declaration of war on my desk then.


Well, we would have to talk then because I have already took it while you were busy fighting the war (in 1922). Hope we can come to some sort of deal.
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Well, we would have to talk then because I have already took it while you were busy fighting the war (in 1922). Hope we can come to some sort of deal.


Ah I see. I'm not against working out a deal though I would appreciate that you do atleast run it by me before claiming to have seized territories from me and presenting it as an unquestionable fact. Regardless, let's work something out. I suppose it depends on how exactly your nation came to occupy Belize, did your army simply march into it and annex the territory or did you envisage something else?
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Ah I see. I'm not against working out a deal though I would appreciate that you do atleast run it by me before claiming to have seized territories from me and presenting it as an unquestionable fact. Regardless, let's work something out. I suppose it depends on how exactly your nation came to occupy Belize, did your army simply march into it and annex the territory or did you envisage something else?

I have imagined that the British lost control of Belize when the depression began and Belize came to the Federation, requesting to be annexed.
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@The Spectre

I don't think I remember giving you approval just yet. So Belize is still up in the air.
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@The Spectre

I don't think I remember giving you approval just yet. So Belize is still up in the air.


oh, well I am almost finish with redoing my history.
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I have imagined that the British lost control of Belize when the depression began and Belize came to the Federation, requesting to be annexed.


Okay we can run with that, we could say that Federation-backed rebels during the war overthrew the colonial administration in Belize, subsequently founded a pro-Federation government there and swiftly applied to join the Federation of Central America.

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I don't think I remember giving you approval just yet. So Belize is still up in the air.


Oh I haven't actually been approved to be the UK yet either so I maybe overstepping by acting as if I speak for them here. To finish my NS I do need to work out a history with the colonies though.
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<Snipped quote by The Spectre>

Okay we can run with that, we could say that Federation-backed rebels during the war overthrew the colonial administration in Belize, subsequently founded a pro-Federation government there and swiftly applied to join the Federation of Central America.

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Oh I haven't actually been approved to be the UK yet either so I maybe overstepping by acting as if I speak for them here. To finish my NS I do need to work out a history with the colonies though.


Let's not treat it like a who-came first game. Work the issue out between you two.
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@Lone Wanderer I was thinking violent colonial revolt

Actually since you would have used a lot of the colonies’ manpower and resources in the War they would be pretty pissed with you already
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Now, how can Australia become a psycho imperialist colonial power in the Pacific
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It doesn't.

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@Lone Wanderer I was thinking violent colonial revolt

Actually since you would have used a lot of the colonies’ manpower and resources in the War they would be pretty pissed with you already


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Okay, so when within the 31 years since the war are you thinking this revolt happened? If the native population took it into their own hands to revolt and officially break away from the British Empire/Commonwealth, I imagine it was closer towards the war then the current date while the memory was still fresh and Westminster still held some sway in the governance of Australia. Unless you intend to have some kind of socialist/authoritarian uprising after the RP's start? In which case by then Australia would be extremely autonomous of Westminster and probably only joined by the Commonwealth of Nations.
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Alright, I have finished rewriting the history. Hopefully, it's good enough.


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Location (on map)
Central America.

History
While Europe was still fighting each other, Central America was planning reunification of El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Costa Rica. Nicaragua eventually joined the Federation of Central America when it was formed in 1922. Panama later joined and Belize was annexed once the British lost control of the area in 1930. Their infrastructure and industry was in terrible shape compared to North America and the government knew that they needed to fix it. Starting in 1925, the Federation introduced a bill that the former capital cities of Central America were guarantee improves in health, education, and industry. It was signed and enacted in 1928, a few months before the economic depression happened. When it did hit the region, everyone was affected.

The Federation's two biggest exports (bananas and coffee) wasn't enough to deal with the depression head on. People were getting tired of living in poor conditions and being without jobs. And in 1932, things looked bad for the Federation and it was nearly complete collapse from the young nation. However, the election of 1932 told another story for the region. President Héctor Pinto won the majority of the popular and electoral votes in the Election of 1932. President Pinto got people to work by signing a series of public work projects for the country (most of them dealt with the already poor infrastructure).

The projects managed to keep the peace for a while until President Pinto established the Central America Reconstruction Administration (CARA). The CARA was created to establish long term economic stability in Central America since they were considered to be the poorest in the Americas. While civil war was inevitably coming to the United States of America, the Federation of Central America was slowly getting used to the depression in 1937. President Pinto was elected for a second term and began to shift focus to the coffee and banana industry. Before Pinto's second term ended in 1941, he made the factories and farms more efficient in producing Central America's most important exports.

Jonatán Franco was when elected the third President of Central America in 1941. President Franco kept on using Pinto's ideas for several months until it was clear that the depression was ending. Then, he shifted his focus on the military. Even known he only served for one term, Franco began to upgrade both the army and navy with better weapons and vehicles of the time. Afterwards, Central America was slowly improving everything from the forties to the fifties.

President Jonatán Maroto, a former lawyer who was elected at the age of sixty-six, died in his sleep on April 20th 1960. As a result, the Vice President was elected President a few days after Maroto's death. Nathanael Blackwell was the first American to be elected as the Vice President and the President of Central America. His family originally came to Central America to escape the civil war in the United States like many other Americans. Maroto knew that he needed the American voters to win the election of 1957, resulting in Nathanael becoming his running mate.

Now many Central Americans are questioning the upcoming Blackwell administration. Will he stick to Maroto's plans or will he set his own up instead?

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@Lone Wanderer I was having it maybe 1925 thereabouts. The British morale would have flared up after the Russians withdrew, making the war even more bloody and costing Aussie lives.
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