If we compare Lumenor to England in 1060 AD, which had comparable area, arable land (maybe), and access to navigable water, the population was estimated to have been about 2-3 million people . Given Nex stated in his application that his people were somewhat less fertile than humans, I would say a population anywhere between 1.2 - 2 million inhabitants seems very reasonable to me.

The population thing seems to be a bit odd to me at points since I thought places like Han China, the incans and the romans had tens of millions of people. Than again chances are no one like romans, incas or chinese in terms of power and size are allowed in this RP.

Also gorgen what of PM?

Schylerwalker said
Yeah, I was hoping that the map in the OP would be updated, with the names of all the nations for easy reference.Also, Snow, what happened to your NS?

I deleted it, since there were revisions I wanted to make. I'll repost a new one soon.

The glowing dudes settled very close to where I was planning (If I got over my laziness). Goddamn glowies.

AlienBastard said
The population thing seems to be a bit odd to me at points since I thought places like Han China, the incans and the romans had tens of millions of people. Than again chances are no one like romans, incas or chinese in terms of power and size are allowed in this RP.Also gorgen what of PM?

The Romans and Han Chinese ruled over very large regions in comparison to what we have going on. As for the Incans, I don't think their population was ever very high.

And the population thing is going to be off. It's sort of silly, because we will never use it, so all the population section will contribute is pointless arguments.

Is there any place with heavy jungle like terrain? If your still accepting that is.

GreivousKhan said
Is there any place with heavy jungle like terrain? If your still accepting that is.

Maybe in region 8. It's not flat-out stated that there is jungle there, but the region is described as being swampy. So if there's any place where a jungle could make sense, it's there.

Anyway, to everyone who has joined this:

If you're interested in an alternate history nation roleplay with an emphasis on characters (and the development of said characters), you might want to check out the Precipice of War interest-check. It's our main roleplay. It's got a big lore stretching back a few real-world years, and it's been going strong for at least one or two of those years nonstop. So trust me, it will not die. It has slumbered, but it has never died, and never will.

It started out on the Spore forums, then it spent some time in the Minecraft forums. Now we're working on bringing it over to RPGuild, where we hope it stays.. at least for a long time. But before we post the RP, we decided to make an interest check to get some new players interested while we work on getting everything set for the move to RPGuild.

The interest check itself, which I linked to, should let you know more or less what the RP is about. But you can ask us questions about it there too. And, when we finally move it here and make an OOC/IC thread, we'll have some summaries written up for all the countries, to help new players accommodate themselves.

One thing to note is that Precipice of War, like this RP, focuses more on characters than you might be used to seeing from nation RPs in RPGuild. It's not "Country A invades Country B". Or "Country A is working on a wall and is 80% done". No, Precipice of War focuses on characters. So everyone roleplays the leader of the nation, but they also play people under him. And even just civilians. Wars are usually written through the perspective of the soldiers fighting it, for example. So Precipice of War isn't played like a strategy game. It's like a really big character RP where one of those characters you play just so happens to run a nation.

And for people who aren't interested in running nations, there will be the option to play organizations, or even just individuals living in the world. But we'll go into that once the RP is moved here.

Anyway, check it out.

Vilageidiotx said
The Romans and Han Chinese ruled over very large regions in comparison to what we have going on. As for the Incans, I don't think their population was ever very high. And the population thing is going to be off. It's sort of silly, because we will never use it, so all the population section will contribute is pointless arguments.

At the same time it reminds people that they can't pull soldiers out of their ass and increase gameyness when there's nothing keeping some from having an infinite supply of men.

Pepperm1nts said
Maybe in region 8. It's not flat-out stated that there is jungle there, but the region is described as being swampy. So if there's any place where a jungle could make sense, it's there.Anyway, to everyone who has joined this:If you're interested in an alternate history nation roleplay with an emphasis on characters (and the development of said characters), you might want to check out the interest-check. It's our main roleplay. It's got a big lore stretching back a few real-world years, and it's been going strong for at least one or two of those years nonstop. So trust me, it will not die. It has slumbered, but it has never died, and never will.It started out on the Spore forums, then it spent some time in the Minecraft forums. Now we're working on bringing it over to RPGuild, where we hope it stays.. at least for a long time. But before we post the RP, we decided to make an interest check to get some new players interested while we work on getting everything set for the move to RPGuild.The interest check itself, which I linked to, should let you know more or less what the RP is about. But you can ask us questions about it there too. And, when we finally move it here and make an OOC/IC thread, we'll have some summaries written up for all the countries, to help new players accommodate themselves.One thing to note is that Precipice of War, like this RP, focuses more on characters than you might be used to seeing from nation RPs in RPGuild. It's not "Country A invades Country B". Or "Country A is working on a wall and is 80% done". No, Precipice of War focuses on characters. So everyone roleplays the leader of the nation, but they also play people under him. And even just civilians. Wars are usually written through the perspective of the soldiers fighting it, for example. So Precipice of War isn't played like a strategy game. It's like a really big character RP where one of those characters you play just so happens to run a nation.And for people who aren't interested in running nations, there will be the option to play organizations, or even just individuals living in the world. But we'll go into that once the RP is moved here.Anyway, check it out.

Everyone says their nation RP focuses on characters. Also Ya, I thought region 8 looked closes to the kind of area I wanted.

Do they?

Well, we mean it. Trust us. We'll probably link to the old thread in the Minecraft forums and you can see for yourself. Every post is a character post, and every character is well developed - they're not just names.

At some point I'll be splitting my arch into a number of them focusing on characters of their own.

Dinh AaronMk said
At the same time it reminds people that they can't pull soldiers out of their ass and increase gameyness when there's nothing keeping some from having an infinite supply of men.

Eh, I think for the most part we halfass the number and forget it. It's the way we rp once we've started, not the fake statistics we pull out of our ass at a moments notice and promptly forget, that really do that.

So what number is most appropriate, then? I've seen everywhere from 0.5 to 4 million.

Think you can edit the first post with our next map update? That'd be wonderful.

#LifeOfARockstar

I also noticed I hadn't gotten to Titanic App. But I think it's largely because I wasn't notified earlier... I'll get to it.

Country Name: United Tribes of Heima
Government type: Representative Chiefdom
Ruler: High King Yu'laktor Olafurson
Location: Hills of Region 2 and Northern Coast of Region 1;
Capital City: Kaltborg
Language: Middle Gothic
Species: Human
Army: 25%. Owing to a nomadic lifestyle, most the citizens aged 16 to 45 are fit and able to be called upon in times of extreme national stress, including women. Their fighting style is composed of mounted combat, including spears and archery. However, they should be thought of as mounted infantry though, because of their light gear and ability to fight on horseback and on two feet. Women who are proven warriors are treated equally as men, which is a contrast not only in much of the known world, but to the other tribes of the North. This has given the Heiman tribes an impressive ability to field more soldiers than one would think.
History: The frozen wasteland of the north is dominated by a series of tribes and chiefdom's of Northmen, as well as other, just as sinister, creatures of ill-intent. Of these various peoples, the hill region of the central North is called "Heima", home, by those who inhabit it. How they came to inhabit the area is recorded through a series of oral traditions, and only recently have they entered written accounts. However, these should not be taken at face value, as true events become blurred with each generation. Heimans (High-Mens), those who inhabit Heima, are most likely descended from early inhabitants of the tundra and an influx of migrants, most likely outcasts and criminals, from the south, as exemplified in the presence of boats and seas in some epics when the people are far from the shores.

The people of Heima live like most tribal peoples of the north, which is by following herds of caribou, moose, musk ox, horse, and bison, some of which are "domesticated", in a sense that ownership and control of a herd is handled by a single tribe. These tribes were once, like many in the North, warring and fighting nearly constantly over control of the herds, which are a sign of wealth and power in the north, especially the horse and caribou herds. Because of this, the Heiman tribes are among the fiercest in the frozen wastes and control a disproportionate amount of the tundra's limited resources. Unity, however, has eluded the tribes for generations over petty differences among ancestors that explode into inter-clan conflict centuries later. A large stigma of unity comes first from the Sage of Man, which will be explained later on, as well as the North's incredible sense of rugged individuality. Unification came by means of necessity under an elected High-King, Olafur Erikson, as the Heiman tribes came against an invasion from the West. These barbarians, though similar to the Heiman's themselves, were ruthless and unforgiving. Through highly mobile and destructive warfare, the United Tribes were able to annihilate the invading Western Barbarians by striking deep into their territory and laying waste to their herds by dragging many back to Heima and slaughtering the ones they couldn't.

Realizing their ability to act together is a gift, the tribes decided to remain united, with the Althing, a representative congress composed of the elders of the different tribes voted into power by land owners and warriors, becoming a legislative body to settle disputes and enact laws as well as keep order, as directed by the High-King, which had then become a hereditary position. city of Kaltborg was built to support the Althing, and has become the largest "city" in the North, nearing three thousand permanent residents and supporting a large iron-mining capacity due to it's situation in the Heiman Mountains. The United Tribes have refrained from warring the lesser tribes of the north, but there seems to be a desire to expand the frontiers towards the south and the west, as the "Golden Shore", which is what they call the North Sea, awaits their conquest. There is prevailing sentiment that the Northmen civilization, not just Heiman, is destined to expand around the Golden Shore, or has in the past and was wrongfully expelled, depending on the tribe. Towards the west, the tales of lucrative food supply and overall abundance is sought by the hard-working, humble, and ever-conserving people of the north as a means of securing wealth. The west remains the site of "Heiman colonies" that originated during the Western Counter-Invasion, where many Freemen settled with their warrior-bands, yet they owe no allegiance to the High-King and reign as warlords and barbarians that they once fought against.

The over-arching thought in most of the nation, from the serfs to the nobles, is expansion, and the militaristic society built by generations of hard-living is ready and willing to provide for that. Warrior-Peasants seek to find their fortune, home, and family in foreign lands through conquest, and there is little holding them back at this point.

Pic: Coming Soon
Religion : Heiman Paganism, defined mostly by ancestor worship and the re-telling of Sagas and Epics, whose heroes and heroines many tribes claim to be descended from, which includes mythical and almost magical ancestors. The people of Heiman have strange customs and beliefs, one of which is the absence of Gods due to a convergence of sagas known as the Saga of Man, in which the mythical Warrior-King Lief Ysgarson, who united the World-Tribe, "slayed" the Gods of proto-Heiman ancestors in a titanic battle that cursed the World-Tribe to live under the yoke of a global frozen tundra. This is a reference to the prior Ice Age, which is a passed down oral tradition rather than an actual historical account, as Heiman civilization does not exist past the previous Ice Age. Because of this, many think of the Heiman as Godless, which is debatable as their ancestors are depicted as fairly powerful beings nonetheless.
Population: 100,000

Added.

Alright, I'm going to *try* and have my app up tomorrow. Gonna be apping for a race, that I'd prefer to discuss with you Dinh, over PM's if that's alright?

GranoxFirewind said
Alright, I'm going to *try* and have my app up tomorrow. Gonna be apping for a race, that I'd prefer to discuss with you Dinh, over PM's if that's alright?

Alrighty then.

I might have some time to work on my NS today so let's hope I have enough to get it done.

Edit: Sch, would the amount of magicians in the east before the purge been about equal to the amount in the west