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@Zero Hex Hmmm. Your character, just died ?
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@Apocalypse
Correct. He is someone trying to make his own legend happen and who has seen the world slowly die in real time, which brings a different mentality and set of motivations to the table.
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@CheifHelmet - Please delete your character. I'll probably ask a mod if they can permanently delete the post later.
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Just so you know, etiquette on this site is, in almost all cases, to post the character in OOC to await GM approval before posting it in the characters tab.
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@CheifHelmet head's up, "gypsy" is a racial slur. The real-world people you're thinking of are called Romani.
In fantasy settings, "wanderer" is a generally acceptable term, but it's not analogous (and it shouldn't be). Don't be disrespectful.
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What do you mean I already posted a character? I did no such thing. In all seriousness, I figured I should push for something flashier and more heroic, and it's been a while since I got to play a full boyish type on a heroic journey, so sorry for the change of mind. But hey, you can't say I don't put effort into this @Lyla.

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=Please delete this post
Not the one above this the one you are currently reading
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@CheifHelmet There are a lot of pejorative words in the dictionary, but that doesn't make them okay to use. It isn't their job to cast judgement on language, just to define it.

There are a lot of other words that mean the same thing that don't carry the same negative connotations. You could literally just say "nomadic and free-spirited" if it's that important.

It's 2018 dude, casual racism isn't in style anymore. Do try to educate yourself.
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@CheifHelmet - I'm a technical person too so I don't blame your defense of using a word, but we also want to foster a respectful and friendly environment, at least in this role-play. So if someone politely asks you to try and use different words, I'd suggest you accommodate them because it clearly offends them. You don't have to agree, but I am asking you to respect their view points.

@mercenarius - Do note that not everyone is aware of these things. I often make mistakes too and slip up and then I'm told something is rude, when I never intended to do so. I'm not attacking you, mind you, you have every right to say what you said. Just asking for a little benefit of the doubt. ^-^
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@Lyla I did give them the benefit of the doubt, which is why I pointed it out and suggested an alternative. What I'm not okay with is defense of the use of a slur, after it's been pointed out that it's a slur.

Racist language is also against the rules of the guild, just in case that wasn't clear, either.
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@mercenarius - I did not defend the use. Please read my post again.
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@Lyla Sorry if that was unclear - I wasn't saying that you were the one defending it.
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Also. Even Romani is wrong in a way as it goes mainly to Romanians, which are 2 distinct people.
Wanderer is the preferred term for gaming as for what we use is : Rromani.
I know it's similar but it makes quite a difference, for us.
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@Apocalypse I didn't know that, thank you for the clarification.
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But isn’t what makes a word pejorative the intent and meaning behind it? There are a lot of other words that are pejorative that have different definitions.

Idk, those are just my thoughts on it.

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@mercenariusI refuse to not use the language I want to use because of people that automatically assume the worst of me.

Also, the "Current Year" argument is a fallacy. It presumes that you're viewpoints are both automatically right and puts human progress on an arbitrary time scale, the point being that how fast society should adopt certain ideals is subjective.

Also being condescending is no way to win an argument and frankly shows your close-mindedness towards other viewpoints.

@Lyla As much as I hate to say this and I don't want to be "that guy" but it offends *me* greatly that she refused to look up the word in order to prove that she was right before accusing me of racism, it also offends me that you would automatically want me to back down before both of us finish presenting our arguments.
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No problem. I might not like every Rromani from my country but as you said it's 2018. We need to stop with the racism :)

@Konan375 That is like saying the N-word in a friendly way. No matter how you say it, it's a reminder of our cruelty. Even if you don't mean it.
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@Lyla Any idea when you will get a chance to look over the Cs’?
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