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I have to agree with everyone else. Nobody wants to play this with an arbitrary coin toss. It's just a flashy and unnecessary rule you made up so people don't spoil YOUR good time. Sounds pretty narcissistic if you ask me. Why don't you let people who know what they're doing roleplay responsibly?

Why exactly do you need to spoil everyone else's fun because you're afraid of OP characters ruining your setting? Besides, you even admitted you stole your idea from Ravenloft, so your setting isn't even 100% original. Just go play that instead of trying to create your own and let people roleplay how they want.

P.S.: You even copied MY character sheet from MY cyberpunk RP from years ago. You forgot to erase the original race description too.


This sounds like a continuation of something that happened outside of this thread, but there's no need for all that. Nobody here was really "up in arms" about the possibility of coin flips and RNG, just a few questions were asked for clarity and the issue was resolved. Character Sheets are lists of information and, optionally, a pinch of artistic formatting--there's no copyright claim on it and it's a silly thing to get hostile over.

If you don't want to play the game or have some personal issue with the GM you're quite welcome to find other games.
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<Snipped quote by Kiragan_Natsuki>

This sounds like a continuation of something that happened outside of this thread, but there's no need for all that. Nobody here was really "up in arms" about the possibility of coin flips and RNG, just a few questions were asked for clarity and the issue was resolved. Character Sheets are lists of information and, optionally, a pinch of artistic formatting--there's no copyright claim on it and it's a silly thing to get hostile over.

If you don't want to play the game or have some personal issue with the GM you're quite welcome to find other games.


*looks over coffee cup and sighs* I did not need this today...-_-

Trust me, my dude. I have absolutely no idea who this person is or why they have beef with me. I've even contacted them via PM and they've given no reply.

Also, I apologize for my absence as I've been dealing with some mental issues lately, but I'm coming around to getting in the swing again. As far as I'm concerned, this guy is just bored and looking to get a rise out of random people for his jollies. Something I don't appreciate.

I believe I made it clear anyway that I was ditching the coin flip in favor of the original honor system, so I don't see why this an issue to begin with.

Now then, if all is settled, back to business.

@Vlad Tepes

I would be intersted in joining, I have a bard character I wanted to try out if that's okay. Or i might do a Belmont like character if that works better.


It's funny you mentioned Belmont, because I was thinking of including a family of vampire hunters for NPCs, so I support this idea. Same with the bard, as bards are one of my favorite classes and make great supporting characters. Just drop a CS, and I'll take a look at it.

That's three so far, so I guess one more and I'll get the OOC rolling.
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P.S.: You even copied MY character sheet from MY cyberpunk RP from years ago. You forgot to erase the original race description too.

Sorry, just a bystander who reads threads she isn't signed up in, but holy crap—! The only things he changed were the genre-specific tropes which he couldn't import into a goth game without making it extremely obvious he'd ripped from a sci fi game somewhere! 🤣

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Name: (What's your name? Do you even have one?)

Gender: (Male or Female?)

Race: (Caucasian, Hispanic, African-American, Asian, Mixed. DOES NOT APPLY TO ROBOTS OR ANDROIDS)

Nationality: (American, French, Irish, German, Mexican, Japanese, Etc. DOES NOT APPLY TO ROBOTS OR ANDROIDS)

Age: (Age ranges from 18+, no lower than that. DOES NOT APPLY TO ROBOTS OR OHYOUKNOWWHATIFUCKINGMEAN!)

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Cybernetics: (What is your character augmented with? These could be anything within reason. Are there any weaknesses or drawbacks to their cybernetic implants?)

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Name: (What's your name? Do you even have one?)

Gender: (Male or Female?)

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Age: (Age ranges from 18+, no lower than that)

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Equipment: (Armor, weapons, food, water, potions, whatever you may need for your journey, within reason of course.)

Skills: (What are some things you're good at?)

Personality: (How are you often around others? Describe yourself in four distinct traits.)

Likes/Dislikes: (What are some things you like and things you don't like?)

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<Snipped quote by Kiragan_Natsuki>

This sounds like a continuation of something that happened outside of this thread, but there's no need for all that. Nobody here was really "up in arms" about the possibility of coin flips and RNG, just a few questions were asked for clarity and the issue was resolved. Character Sheets are lists of information and, optionally, a pinch of artistic formatting--there's no copyright claim on it and it's a silly thing to get hostile over.

If you don't want to play the game or have some personal issue with the GM you're quite welcome to find other games.


This is a writing community. Will actual, copy-pasted plagiarism like Vlad's result in kicks, bans, or legal action? Probably not. Is it (combined with the AI art) remarkably scummy, and inspiring little confidence that the RP will be unique or original, not to mention artistically compelling? Absolutely yes.

Throwing this under the rug because you fear conflict more than you despise plagiarists is an extremely shitty and morally lazy way to live, in my opinion. They do not belong here or in any creative community.
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@Kazemitsu D'OH! I had nearly forgotten your CS, bro! My apologies! >//<

Kharne looks like a dude I wouldn't tangle with, so he's accepted. Can't wait to see how he gets along with the rest.
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This is a writing community. Will actual, copy-pasted plagiarism like Vlad's result in kicks, bans, or legal action? Probably not. Is it (combined with the AI art) remarkably scummy, and inspiring little confidence that the RP will be unique or original, not to mention artistically compelling? Absolutely yes.


Again, those who don't find the RP or its creator appealing have myriad options on this site to choose from instead. Referring to it as "ackshual, copy-pasted plagiarism" is giving it a laughable amount of attention the issue's not even worth.

Throwing this under the rug because you fear conflict more than you despise plagiarists is an extremely shitty and morally lazy way to live, in my opinion. They do not belong here or in any creative community.
I pay bills, live in a society, and RP as a hobby. From that perspective, the goings and comings of this website really aren't a worthwhile reflection of anyone's fears or moral values, much less my own.

If somebody likes someone else's character sheet formatting or RP-prompt enough to re-use it, it's polite and appreciated to ask first or at least pay credit. But unless you're making money off of it or are running a directly competing game, it's not worth the effort to start flame-wars or shitpost contests.

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Sorry, just a bystander who reads threads she isn't signed up in, but

Exactly why did this merit any of your effort to begin with? Perhaps don't throw water on grease fires you didn't start?
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@Zeroth "If you don't like it just go somewhere else" is the same trash logic that corporations use to pay you less than you're worth, and that roommates/guardians/partners use to abuse you in your own home. And apparently, that writers use to defend plagiarists. I'm not buying it. Sorry, not sorry.

Vlad owes @Kiragan_Natsuki a PUBLIC apology which involves IMMEDIATELY editing out their work from his rp and replacing it with his own original character sheet. And although it's better shown than told, it should also include a resolution never to do this again, especially not doing this to a two-year-old thread in the assumption that no one would notice. If he doesn't, then everything he produces for a thread from here on out is suspect, and he is still a plagiarist even if he stops stealing from this moment. Because he's still benefiting from something someone else wrote.

You wouldn't buy from a shop that peddles fenced goods, so why should a game which fences ideas be any different? Because it's "just a hobby, that means integrity doesn't matter, teehee"? Bullshit.
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"If you don't like it just go somewhere else" is the same trash logic that corporations use to pay you less than you're worth, and that roommates/guardians/partners use to abuse you in your own home. And apparently, that writers use to defend plagiarists. I'm not buying it. Sorry, not sorry.

This is a website where people make stuff up for fun, dear. No one's going to hurt you here. Calm down.

Vlad owes @Kiragan_Natsuki a PUBLIC apology which involves IMMEDIATELY editing out their work from his rp and replacing it with his own original character sheet. And although it's better shown than told, it should also include a resolution never to do this again, especially not doing this to a two-year-old thread in the assumption that no one would notice. If he doesn't, then everything he produces for a thread from here on out is suspect, and he is still a plagiarist even if he stops stealing from this moment. Because he's still benefiting from something someone else wrote.

And what if he doesn't? He will continue to live rent-free in your head for the rest of time as an idealized straw-man that will make you froth at the mouth every time you remember this moment he refused to abide by your swift and righteous justice?

You wouldn't buy from a shop that peddles fenced goods, so why should a game which fences ideas be any different? Because it's "just a hobby, that means integrity doesn't matter, teehee"? Bullshit.

Again, if you don't like this particular RP... *gestures to the entire rest of the website*

You're not crusading for inherent moral value or setting right some horrendous crime, you're just giving a guy whose stuff you don't like free topic bumps.

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@Zeroth The intensity with which you're defending stolen goods says more about you than about the thief at this point. I will hope it's because you're ashamed of having been fooled, and are doubling down in embarrassment instead of admitting your mistake, the way cultists and MLM victims so often do. Good luck to this thread, a pox on all its houses, and may its IC tab die on page 2.
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I'll start work on a CS soon.
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@Zeroth@TokyoPewPew

What the Jesus...?! \O__O/ Whoa whoa whoa!



If everyone could please calm down before we get the guns out, I will explain my two cents.

Yes, I did use elements from Kiragan's CS without their express permission, believing that using info from a (supposedly) dead thread would be of no concern. I did not expect backlash from my actions, but it seems there I was sorely mistaken. Therefore, @Kiragan_Natsuki, I am sorry that I have offended you by obtaining your intellectual property without your consent. I realize that in doing so I have besmirched my credibility in both the RP community and society as a whole. In good faith, I will erase the current CS and draft another of my design.

@TokyoPewPew While I do not appreciate you airing your grievances on my interest check, I will agree with your argument against my transgressions. You have every right to voice your opinions, however, I ask that next time you do so in private so as not to fill the thread with unnecessary drama. As you have requested, I have given my apology, publicly mind you, to Kiragan and will now erase the thread character sheet. You have my word I will no longer stoop to such unscrupulous tactics in the immediate future.

@Zeroth I appreciate you arguing in my defense while I was pre-occupied. For this, I appoint you as my personal attorney...but you'll need a suit.

No but seriously, thank you for having my back, even though it was my screw-up to begin with.
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too much quoting


See, now you've fed them and they'll come back for more. Don't delete this thread, A because I don't have my CS saved, and B because it's not even worth it.

"Intellectual property" entails a lot more than a list of "Name, Age, What Kinda Magic You Got?," and so forth. Like I said, sorting stuff like this out politely is fine but it wasn't worth arguing that someone should be locked in a pillory for it. It was all ridiculous virtue signaling and I called it out as such.

Also, no-can-do on the suit. I'll wear jeans that are only a little wrinkled, though.
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@Zeroth Wait, did I say thread? O.O Oh no no no! I meant the character sheet! GYAH! *headdesk*

And yeah, I have a feeling this won't be the last we'll see of this eh...person... but for now, I just wanted to cool things down before the mods got involved. Then it would be a shitshow. We're still pushing this boat out to sea whether or not some people get seasick lol!

Btdubz: I just thought "intellectual property" sounded fancy.
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@Vlad Tepes

I am unsure if I should give my character the ability to transform into a werewolf. What do you think? Maybe it can only happen on a full moon to make it more fair. Also are flintlock weapons available?
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@Kazemitsu D'OH! I had nearly forgotten your CS, bro! My apologies! >//<

Kharne looks like a dude I wouldn't tangle with, so he's accepted. Can't wait to see how he gets along with the rest.


Is fine, I'm a ninja...and also got lost in all the arguing I bet :p
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@Eviledd1984 So a lycan basically. Yeah I'm totally cool with that. I was considering adding lycans to the race menu anyhow, along with vampires of course.

Flintlock weapons are accepted since they do fit the setting, but I would have to limit them to one use per post. Mainly because of balance issues and... well... from personal experience, flintlocks and any other black powder weapons are a pain in the ass to load. So yes, any sort of firearm BEFORE the 1800s is acceptable.

@Kazemitsu Yeah, a bit of buggery there, but it's all settled down now...at least I hope.
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@Vlad Tepes

Yeah if that's okay. I can snub the flintlock weapons because I can just have them use a multi-barrel crossbow like this

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@Vlad Tepes



Let me know if i need to change anything boss.
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@Kazemitsu Yeah, a bit of buggery there, but it's all settled down now...at least I hope.


I wanted to participate. Everything happens when I'm workin dammit...
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@Kazemitsu Believe me, my good dragon. There are some things worth missing. That was one of them.

@Eviledd1984

"So... you must be the Lupo, the last breath of a dying legacy.
With your death, I will snuff out your family's name like a candle caught in the wind."


Save it for the RP, Matty! Go back to your coffin! <.<

Ignore that drama queen for now. You're accepted. Also greenlight on the crossbow for now, but I'm wondering just how fast it cycles bolts.
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@Vlad Tepes

Thank you, i was thinking maybe a bit slow so like 5 maybe 10 seconds between each cycle. Or would that be too slow?
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