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Nah that works I mean Diego's bio has him living in Goldenrod and going to the Pokeathlon Dome every day, so that's about the same distance.
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I'd meant to bring this up earlier, but other things grabbed my attention xP
I agree, I think it should generally be 3-5 miles for a route. Cities are more along the size/population suggested in the anime/manga.
But I'd like to bring up the fact that traveling off route (so the forest between Route 119 and 120 (south of Fortree City)) to be open for travel (the same goes for all other areas the game cannot take you). It'd be more wild and thickly forested, so it's not travel friendly (hence the purpose of Routes). For example, a character I made for this lives in a cabin north of Petalburg City and Route 102. These areas can be given their own names (like instead of Petalburg Woods, it could be Petalrusturf Forest (as the crudest of example names)). But that would, more or less, be up for everyone to contribute towards should the want or need arise.

I just had a thought, however. Since no one's really exploring Gyms and such, would everyone be okay with my establishing their locations, and possibly leaders? It would just give everyone the chance to be able to seek out a seasoned trainer or the possibility of interacting with them should the want arise.
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All sounds good to me. Diego will probably hit up a few gyms if the mood hits him.
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oh hey i didn't even realize he lived in goldenrod for a while. that's my character's hometown.
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I'd meant to bring this up earlier, but other things grabbed my attention xP
I agree, I think it should generally be 3-5 miles for a route. Cities are more along the size/population suggested in the anime/manga.
But I'd like to bring up the fact that traveling off route (so the forest between Route 119 and 120 (south of Fortree City)) to be open for travel (the same goes for all other areas the game cannot take you). It'd be more wild and thickly forested, so it's not travel friendly (hence the purpose of Routes). For example, a character I made for this lives in a cabin north of Petalburg City and Route 102. These areas can be given their own names (like instead of Petalburg Woods, it could be Petalrusturf Forest (as the crudest of example names)). But that would, more or less, be up for everyone to contribute towards should the want or need arise.

I just had a thought, however. Since no one's really exploring Gyms and such, would everyone be okay with my establishing their locations, and possibly leaders? It would just give everyone the chance to be able to seek out a seasoned trainer or the possibility of interacting with them should the want arise.


Shouldn't the region correspond more or less to the region of Japan it's based on? The way I remember it from the anime, there seemed to be a good distance between the major cities, and a lot more little towns and villages than the few showcased in the games.

The distances could certainly be condensed from real life, but I think something more realistic and still manageable would be around 30km for each route. A day's travel on foot per route, basically. Much less than a day on a bike, and chump change when you're flying. On a case by case basis (say Verdanturf/Mauville or Littleroot/Oldale) the in-game routes could be subroutes of 25km or less, but if you condense it as you say here, Hoenn (including the sea half) would be smaller than Luxembourg. The real Kyushu is nearly 15 times that size.



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Extended my post. Haven is now at the daycare's door.
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Well, *exhales
I just have no sense of distance, then.
I really do like the idea better that it's be 15-20 miles (for those of the empirical measuring system). So a day for a 1 way trip through a route. It would allow for a lot more space to be explored and filled out.
I honestly prefer this sense of vastness. ^^
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....because my post is already out can we say that mauville and verdanturf are close together tho?
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@c3p-0h Well, since the distance wasn't described in hard numbers, it would be relatively shorter, yes. But how close are you thinking? 10 miles would be a relatively short route, but it depends what time of day it is exactly and when you were planning on her getting back to her hotel. I don't remember anything specific enough to indicate she'd be walking around at midnight or anything.

Ugh, I should have brought this up before opening the IC...I'm such a boob and I'm sorry. :(
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It's probably around 7, it just seems later because of the rain. But I think ten miles is longer than she'd be willing to walk at night in the rain with no jacket. I mean clearly already her judgement isn't the best, but there has to be a limit lol.
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@c3p-0h yeah, I hear ya...
I'm just thinking about how to compromise...

But it's late and I need to go to bed. I take full responsibility for any edits (or specifications) you have to make to your post (if any).

An idea: taxi
Could there be any kind of taxi system she could pay for (Pokèmon or technological) that you could simply suggest she took and had stop at the daycare simply too inquire about the egg?
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@Phoenix game for the taxi-type service. do i have full discretion on what that is and how it works while you sleep?
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Well... she could always camp out, assuming she knows how. A few different ways to tackle this
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Hm. If Verdanturf is significantly closer to Mauville, it should mean that the mountain range is broader, and Rusturf Tunnel many km long. Or, alternatively, Route 116 to the east of Rustboro could be considerably longer than average... Or both.

I could see expansions of some of the more wild areas of the region, like the Route 111 desert north of Mauville and Route 124 between Lilycove and Mossdeep. It should be a real trek to get to Lavaridge/Mt. Chimney from Mauville, I think. Perhaps the Petalburg Woods as well, extending through that entire stretch of forest north of Petalburg. I don't know. Things to think about, for verisimilitude.

(I make my own maps for my D&D games and other RPGs, so I have a good distance sense most of the time.)
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i'm gonna just leave my post as is for now, then.
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@c3p-0h Yes, if you excuse to go that route.

@Prints Avoid I'd think camping might be relatively common, but perhaps not. I wonder what kind of hosting system there'd be in this Hoenn.

@Imperfectionist I'm wary of specifically mapping distances for everything. I was thinking I'd be about a day's trip for most routes. But if you're willing to create the map or simply list out the distances of routes, I can put them in the map notes. ^^
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I'm wary of specifically mapping distances for everything. I was thinking I'd be about a day's trip for most routes. But if you're willing to create the map or simply list out the distances of routes, I can put them in the map notes. ^^


I'll mock up a list and you can see what you think. No harm in cementing things, that way everyone in the game world has a good idea of how long a trip should take. An NPC can say "Geez, it's such a long way to Fallarbor!" and we see why that is.

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I've got an idea for the route between verdanturf and mauville. How long are we saying that one is?
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Well, we can go about it logically. Mauville is on the coast near the center of the landmass of Hoenn. Verdanturf is in the shadow of Mt. Chimney, much further inland, to the point that the soil and land shifts dramatically. If we keep Rusturf Tunnel a reasonable length (10km or less) I would say it's a standard route between Mauville and Verdanturf, at least 30km. A full day's travel on foot.

What I would recommend would be to make the Day Care center its own little village closer to Mauville (let's say 8km), with Bed and Breakfast-style places for people and the Day Care center for Pokemon.

Then, further along you start to see the massive Hoenn Gardens in the rich volcanic soil, and finally, in the shadow of the mountains, Verdanturf, which is where the Gardens are administrated from, etc, etc.
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@DepressedSoviet I'm so sorry. I'm really failing as a GM right now. There's really no excuse.
That paragraph about the PokeStations being destroyed is not valid (I deleted it). I'm going to PM you when I get home with a solution that you'll hopefully not be infuriated with (it's plot sensitive and I don't want to announce it here ;p). You should only have to edit a paragraph and a sentence.

Again, I'm so sorry for being so negligent. There's no excuse and I hope you don't feel punished for it. I'm really just so embarrassed.
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