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Don't think I'm being passive aggressive, I'm openly aggressive. You're just really not grasping the concept of weight classes.

Nobody is gonna throw Mike Tyson in a ring with some goon who weighs 100 lbs when wet.
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In others words being a dick to be a dick. I get it, glad to know.

Except there are no mike Tysons and there are no 100 pound soaking wet people here. You think I DIDNT read the profiles to? Fuck man, you assume this durability is an end all be all invincible thing when it...Isnt? I wont name who, but really, some people I've read here have 'kinetic energy absorption' and stuff like that, hell, store some of that, punch an area of Ultron once or a few times and boom, denting, eventual rotting, damage. Not to mention speed factors...I dont SEE the mismatches you're throwing around with stuff like that, that and I'm sure, like most fights I've had, half if not 75% and up are probably Faster then Ultron anyway.
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A. I rarely use the Beam to begin with. I was asked for a general list of abilities and I listed if not ALL the main ones Ultron has.


You are judged based on what you can do, not what you will do, so saying things like "I rarely use it" or whatever literally does not matter.
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'Even so, you're leaving out EVEN if I did use it, that someone COULDN'T dodge it which is far from the face. If something in terms of dodging or avoiding or negating such a thing exists, so long as it doesnt seem thrown together Then I'm alright with it.'

And theres the rest of the thing you left out, nice try though!
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Ultron has tanked blasts from people who can erase planets.
Once he generated a piece of technology that phased an entire galaxy out of existence.
He's liquefied Iron Man's armor with a single blast.
He's had an even fight with Sentry, who is basically Superman.
Defeated Ares and Ms Marvel, who are both roughly on par with Thor.
He's able to transfer his consciousness to another piece of technology and adapt it. (Which would be terribly useful if someone had a piece of technology implanted in them.)

Ultron's secondary powers alone, with his ability to generate new ones, are busted AF.
Yet here we are, with you defending it.
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'Even so, you're leaving out EVEN if I did use it, that someone COULDN'T dodge it which is far from the face. If something in terms of dodging or avoiding or negating such a thing exists, so long as it doesnt seem thrown together Then I'm alright with it.'

And theres the rest of the thing you left out, nice try though!


But that wasn't the point I was trying to make. There's no "even if" about this. That beam breaks one of the core rules of the tournament. It doesn't matter if it can be dodged or whatever, the fact remains that Ultron can do that.

I kindly suggest you take a step back to reassess. Your attitude and temper is not helping you in this conversation.
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1&2. Story based, I know exactly WHAT you’re talking about. Not a dialy thing, not a MAIN attack, nothing. IT was a plot device to advance stuff.
3. People less powerful then Ultron, hell, Frank Castle, THE PUNISHER, have destroyed Starks armor or hell, HACKED it easily. It isn’t a great be all end all thing, and was probably a lesser suit anyway.
4. ‘Even’ in a sense he lasted more than TEN SECONDS at best before Sentry killed him. IT was not an even fight, no offense from Ultron, Sentry just MURDERED that platform.
5. Ares and Ms Marvel are NOT on par with Thor. Ares can/might be IF certain conditions are met, but not all the time. I dunno were Miss Marvel comes from, she’s REALLY not that strong at all…and even so WHEN Thor and Hulk are in the same fight, Ultron mostly focuses on them ‘cus they’re trouble, BIG trouble.
6. Your point? All I’ve read and seen are little bits of tech or things hidden so well Ultron wouldn’t be able to see them. THAT and even if he did, if Ultron LOST do you think it’d be hard for even yourself to pluck the small bit of tech out and just step on it before it grows? REALLY?

Half of this isn’t even stuff I listed in the character shit. You’re tacking it on to something I submitted yet CLEARLY didn’t say and even when you did I knew Exactly what you’re talking about and what really happened. Nice Try.

Well then, can I just remove it then? I put it there but Ultrons a robot, he can modify each platform to replace certain parts and again, it is SLIGHLTY my mistake ‘cus I just didn’t wanna take five days writing something that was already there.

Also, I’m not mad, I’m responding in kind to what I think are dickish responses that hold no merits and excuses for..people I see who can FRANKLY beat Ultron given enough effort, tact, and utilization of powers and things. I don’t exactly like ‘passive’ or general aggressiveness and respond in kind to it when its about.
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Also, I’m not mad, I’m responding in kind to what I think are dickish responses that hold no merits and excuses for..people I see who can FRANKLY beat Ultron given enough effort, tact, and utilization of powers and things. I don’t exactly like ‘passive’ or general aggressiveness and respond in kind to it when its about.


I've been very civil with you and you've still been coming off as hostile. I can understand the annoyance, but I've been genuinely trying to help you see what's wrong with the character.

In any case, for your question of removing it, I'll let Mobius field that one when he comes on. I can't speak with authority here and you don't entirely seem to be getting the point that's being made, so it'd be best if you spoke directly with Mobius or one of the judges about it.
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I was referring to LeeRoy there mostly. I didnt appreciate the 'Cant be arsed' comment and Vordak piping in, but thats about it.

I get the points but I feel like I've refuted most of them or even after the beam complaint offered a solutions in the simplest form, most RP/fight/Other ability based, while in terms of the beam, just taking that off in general.
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Could someone delete this post?
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I cannot stop laughing at just how little you grasp the power disparity.
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Gotta love Geraven for interrupting the argument by posting a profile in the wrong section with broken coding though
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@Metal Tortoise Was Ultron's body actually composed of Adamantium? Anyways, here's my two cents.

There is a general lack of sensible reasoning behind the character itself. Speaking from the perspective of a long time Clan Wars vet, Ultron having an adamantium chasis doesn't logically mean he can withstand 100 "MEGATONS" of destructive force. Just to put this in perspective: britannica.com/technology/nuclear-weap..
That equals a BILLION TONS of explosive energy.

Tech works on a different basis than Fantasy; as per its nature there is an actual science involved. Disregarding the adamantium itself, your titanium joints would not only get busted apart but likewise get liquefied. Then you gotta take into consideration whether or not the sensitive bits inside like your cybernetic don't end up getting baked inside that oven of a body. So the assertion of being able to survive that kind of blast is just absurd and devoid of any sound reasoning.

Now, as for the strength? Yeah, I can accept that.

And with regards to your mind control beam, I'd have to ask how something like that works. Cause in terms of like Magitech where you have Fantasy elements mixed in, that becomes more logically feasible. But to my knowledge, Ultron was built by Tony using legitimate technology that is present on Earth in the Marvel universe. I don't think any Mages were involved. (Unless this is some Infinity Stone stuff. I couldn't exactly afford to get into the comics so I just have the movies to go off of as a reference) And even then there's no promise that said beam would be effective against the other characters involved since that becomes a matter of you contesting the mental fortitude of your opponent's character.

Personally? Ultron got his ass beat in the movie. So I don't have any problem with ya using him. There's a number of ways to screw him over. Your joints are all points of weakness in the frame, since even though Titanium is strong its not some kind of mythic alloy like adamantium.

Elements likewise pose a potential danger;
-Lightning can easily overload the internal systems based on A) how its applied and B) the amount of volts you're putting into it.
-Fire could melt the Titanium. (Heat in general can and will always pose a potential threat)
-You're just a machine and don't technically possess a soul, so someone capable of bending the element Metal could turn ya into a pretzel without there being much resistance.
-Magnetism owns you. Period.

And God help you if your opponent is any sort of competent Mage, cause unless you're using your OWN custom Technology, Magic Casters will 9 times out of 10 wipe the floor with you.

Overall, the main issue I have with it/can see being a problem is that your profile wouldn't fly for Clan RPs in the Omniverse. There doesn't appear to be any actual heart going into. Nothing was seemingly explained which in any kind of Clan War, your opponents WOULD insist you explain how your stuff works, and not being able to would result in major penalties. Which from my old community typically resulted in one of the Mods showing up to smite you with their God Type character.

Maybe if you had "YOUR version" of Ultron which was actually fleshed out? I could see that being different.

Also, your general attitude and tossing insults left and right is just shitty behavior. I mean if you want folks to take you seriously, then present your case in a calm manner. Be intellectual and civil, rather than calling people stupid or idiots. Especially folks who didn't even have anything to do with your character getting rejected, I mean what the fuck man? That shit ain't cool.

Respect is a two way street. That is seriously THE FIRST rule you learn in any iteration of Role-Play.
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Think you put the char in the wrong spot, Geraven.

Lasers, super punches, kicks, headbutts, and super-durability. That's about it. You seem to be under the impression I'm using Supertron 1000000 that will instant kill everything in one punch when, as I CLEARLY outlined in the character sheet provided, that is not the case. Thats final boss shit level, think of this platform as a highly trained infantry model. Nothing more, nothing less.
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FACE VALUE IS EVERYTHING YOU GOON

"He's mostly invincible and can punch a hole through the antarctic ice sheet."
"Oh that seems a bit over the top."
"He's got weaknesses."
"That still seems over the top."
"YOU'RE BEING UNREASONABLE REEE!"
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low tier one love
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There's more to RP than Low Tier. Expand thy horizons, young padawan. (<---Star Wars Jedi, PERFECT example)
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This is comic Ultron, or a form of it that I've been playing for a long while, to be clear.

And you HIT the nail on the head with what I’ve BEEN saying, Dias. Just because he can doesn’t exactly MEAN it wont leave him dented, wont leave him hurt. Physical damage is something Adamantium (as the case here) is very good against, BUT can still be dented, still be tossed around, its THAT simple. I don’t know how many times I have to say that.

I’ve taken in all of the things you said in regards to the magic and liquefying thing, in fact if it isn’t exactly something I know Ultron can tank, it’s more a matter of moving. Again the profile thing is…Well that’s mostly what I use. If I used Complete ‘my version for the multiverse and custom clan’ like stuff, I feel like that’d be harped on more, which is why I just gave a tweeked version of a normal but still strong and tactful ‘Battle Ready’ in its stead.

As to this ‘insult’ stuff, well, the most I started off with was feeling insulted and Cursing at what I felt was an insult at the ‘Cant be arsed’ or some crap which frankly, GIVEN IT WAS THE RUNNER OF THIS TOURNAMENT, AGAIN, I felt was a little less then, well, Insulting as I said. Then Vard and Lee come around and add onto the Pile FIRST by basically saying ‘I cant even BELIEVE the judges put up and read this crap’ or how I ‘whined’ about not getting accepted and…Well, what can I say? You said it yourself, respect is a two way street, something I DO NOT expect from people I’ve just met or are arguing with BUT when petty apparent ‘I’m not passive I’m just AGGRESSIVE’ insults are flung…civility is a no.

And again, Lee trys to instigate, like before. Not once did I, in fact I said the OPPOSITE of Ultron being invincible, I even TOLD you, like three times how he isnt but you keep flinging that horse shit in my face like I'm supposed to accept it. Repitition is annoying and in turn makes me annoyed.
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