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Meh, there's no specific numbers on anybody's sublight speed or weapon ranges so it doesn't particularly matter in my mind. It's a completely arbitrary number and it makes no sense for it to be the same size for every celestial body, but I don't especially care.

For narrative purposes, everyone needs 'a good chunk of minutes' to approach or depart a planet. No jump in, deploy drop pods, jump out.


I am at a complete loss for words ...
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Honestly Sierra, I am a bit surprised you didn't expect that from the beginning.
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I am at a complete loss for words ...


...congrats?
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I just want to be sure I completely understand this. You are not planning on reevaluating the number value assigned to the FTL ruling, and you intend to ignore many of the fundamentals of astrophysics in a science-fiction world because it clashes with the ruling as currently written.

Is that a valid description of the situation at hand?
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See I don't get why this is such a problem.

A lot of sci-fi settings outside of RP ignore physics and other scientific law. Why? Because were all not science majors and most of do not care for the complex math involved. Its just a different theme for the setting if that is an issue I don't see why you don't go find a setting that more adheres to real science that would be better for your tastes.
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I just want to be sure I completely understand this. You are not planning on reevaluating the number value assigned to the FTL ruling, and you intend to ignore many of the fundamentals of astrophysics in a science-fiction world because it clashes with the ruling as currently written.

Is that a valid description of the situation at hand?


This RP is at, like Star Wars levels of scientific realism.
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Thought the inclusion of SPACE! magic in this setting was a pretty good indicator of how soft this sci-fi setting is. Hell call it science fantasy if that floats your goat. If this is a dealbreaker for you, know that I will dearly miss your west-wing style political briefings.

Let me be clear: I do not give a single solitary flying flapjack about astrophysics, physics, or pretty much all forms of math. The ghost of Einstein himself could appear before me right now to tell me why 1 light minute doesn't hold up, and I would still find no flapjacks to give. Asimov's corpse could rise from the grave and explain that good science is an integral element of good science fiction, and there would still be no flapjacks. No force on this earth, short of a personal phone call or direct tweet from Elon Musk, can make me care about unimportant things like reality as it applies to a space opera.
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@Ozerath The most implausible of space fantasy is still entirely capable of coexisting alongside the most rudimentary level of physics. The existence of things that tell the laws of physics to screw off in no way precludes things that dutifully comply with the laws of physics, or requires that physics itself be thrown out the window and its textbooks burned in holy fire. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that a collaborative writing exercise would be capable of catering to both of these categories equally and effectively. I am no stranger to ignoring breaks from reality in the name of narrative or coolness or what have you, but I expect the barebones skeleton of the universe to work correctly when I need to rely on it, not be disregarded simply because the scales do not work out conveniently. I also do not consider it too much to ask that those who throw around real scientific terms have at least cursory knowledge of the context behind them. It is never undesirable to be aware of what the reality you are opting to discard actually is.

That said, your inference that this is a deal-breaker is not entirely accurate. I am entirely capable of mentally transforming the rule-as-written into something that both complies fully with its intents and also does not shatter the basic framework of physics upon which I rely. I completely understand the purpose and goals of the ruling, and at no point in this entire argument did I ever hold any objection to the spirit thereof. I simply wanted to see the number attached be revised to something less outlandish so that I would not have to jump through the mental conversion hoop. The context of the discord conversation around the decision strongly suggests you did not intend the monolithic reach your current numerical value has.

The primary motive behind my decision to withdraw is the apathetic and dismissive response I received to a politely phrased, reasonable criticism, where virtually any alternate tone would have been a superior option. I would have found the choice of tone to be in relatively poor taste coming from any player irrespective of rank, and I strongly believe that the GM should uphold a higher standard of behavior than his/her players in order to lead by example. You are thus about to lose a player to a conflict that did not need to happen. I would encourage you to reflect on that.

I will see to removing my faction from the table and tying up any loose ends to the best of my ability. I would like to apologize to those who are now being left hanging for my error in judgement. I will see that I am more scrupulous picking my RPs in the future.
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@Sierra I will be the first to admit that the handling of this issue has been very childish and unreasonable.
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Well that's a shame. Bye!
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Though I am not adverse to the fact that all parties involved carried this out with impatience and unreasonable behaviour.
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And here I am, wishing he'd just banned all FTL inside within 40 or 50 AU of a star.

#slowitdown

#notmytacticalftl
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@Sierra A real shame it ended up this way. Was fun while it lasted thought! :) Hopefully we can rp again in the far future.
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@Archetype Zero You do not get to speak to me about being unreasonable. Not after you misrepresented half of what I said in my original post about FTL a few days ago in the discord chat.

@Sigma You have never been among the individuals I have had issue with. Not even Oz has a place on my permanent shit list (such spaces are a grand dishonor to hold). It is unfortunate that it only takes so little to bring a good thing to an end. It will be my pleasure if our paths cross again.
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Speaking for those who have neither the time nor the skill to learn advanced or basic physics and the math involved therein (ok, speaking for myself, since no one else here is as science dumb as me), I’ll just say this:

β€œCan we please get back to using space magic and super nukes in the imaginary sandbox and ask the GMs nicely when we have a problem?”
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I think I missed some drama or something...
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@KaiserElectric There was, yes, but we're past it and we can hopefully move forward from it :)
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@Sigma Well that's good. :)

Still brainstorming my idea, I'm wondering how big I can make an alien race and get away with it. :P

(Big meaning how large an individual is, mind you)
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@KaiserElectric Well as long as they're not literal giants and have a reasonable height. :P
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