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Status Messages are already being used as witty insult chat boxes.

Evidence A:

Revans Exile 1 hour ago
Pete of Alexandria from The Walking Dead needs to be fed to Walkers.

Mr Allen J 41 min ago
The walking dead show is for scrubs, real men read the comics.

Revans Exile 29 min ago
@Mr Allen J I'd rather be a scrub than a loser snob.

Mr Allen J 4 min ago
Being a snob is great, Revans Exile. It gives me personality. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Revans Exile 3 min ago
Being a scrub is great, Mr Allen J. It gives me personality. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)



@RomanAria I am humbled by you wisen sage of the future.
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I just appreciated that something that is "like Twitter, but more RPG-ish" (To quote myself (Terribly pompous, I know.)) Is probably going to be used like Twitter. Because instantly-posted messages that the whole guild can read. How would that not be used as a social-media style method of bandying insults?
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Status Messages are already being used as witty insult chat boxes.


Aw, you're too nice. :3
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Status Messages are already being used as witty insult chat boxes.


Did you seriously just tattletale? wow...

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<Snipped quote by Aeonumbra>

Did you seriously just tattletale? wow...


And this comment was needed because..? (Other than coming off derogatory and slightly insulting.)

I am discussing the feature.
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@Aeonumbra
I just appreciated that something that is "like Twitter, but more RPG-ish" (To quote myself (Terribly pompous, I know.)) Is probably going to be used like Twitter. Because instantly-posted messages that the whole guild can read. How would that not be used as a social-media style method of bandying insults?


I definately see what you were getting at.
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@Aeonumbra
I just appreciated that something that is "like Twitter, but more RPG-ish" (To quote myself (Terribly pompous, I know.)) Is probably going to be used like Twitter. Because instantly-posted messages that the whole guild can read. How would that not be used as a social-media style method of bandying insults?


Hmm... Twitter has a characters per post restriction. But it isn't very rp-ish. Irc is rp-ish, and it has a characters per post restriction too. IRC is what you're looking for.
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Does the IRC have a character limit? I've never reached it. @Ellri
I meant that the character limitations (200 is pretty tight) and the instantaneous feedback, in that everyone on the guild's homepage will instantly see your message, rather likens it to twitter. IRC is too, oh, I don't know. Exclusive. That's the word. IRC is too small and too unpopulated for messaging on it to have the same effect as the messages on the homepage. Also, twitter is designed for status updates, not for chat. Similarly, our interface is designed for status updates, not for chat.
People never use the system for what they are supposed to use it for.
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Aint a problem til it's a problem, dudes.
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Some feel it has become a problem, @Mahz.

Some sort of irc integration would be lovely to have, but not sure whether such may be hard to implement. Tying the current guild irc to the guild site completely may be hard, considering that username systems are completely different.

Easiest would be a window in the guild with a simple irc client in it, but that would not tie to the guild userbase. Building a new guild irc tied to the guild DB might make for better integration, but would require a lot more work. We think. Can you verify that, mahz?
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@Ellri With the option of "hiding" the chat client (if implemented).
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That would make sense,@Aeonumbra.
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@Ellri I don't see any good reasons to integrate with IRC even if it was technically feasible. The Guild's IRC has always been its own beast, and it will coexist with any system I build into the Guild.

I eventually plan to build a websocket chat system into the Guild with the ability to do things like create rooms and integrate with the forum in various ways and persist chat logs and allow chat log searches and more, and it still wouldn't obviate the function of the Guild's IRC. The IRC channel is something that sits on the edge of the Guild. It's a place you can hang out regardless of your situation here.
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Agreed,@Mahz. While it could possibly be done with a lot of work, it doesn't feel to us like the work required to do it fully would be worth the end result. Small boon simply doesn't justify immense work in the long run.

The IRC function of being used for chatroom RPs is underutilized on the guild irc, so that would be worth implementing, though. But that actually doesn't require an irc client to be built in. Just something similar, like the websocket thing in your post above.

If we throw out twenty-three bad ideas for every good/feasible one, we still feel that is worth it.
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The IRC is also somewhere you can go regardless of whether the Guild is down or not (which, fortunately, does not seem to have been an issue in recent times).
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Hey, @Mahz, with the recent implementions of the status updates and the Bio, would it be totally wrong of me to assume that some time in the future, be it distant or near, there will be a visitor messaging feature or something like it, at least?
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Hey, @Mahz, with the recent implementions of the status updates and the Bio, would it be totally wrong of me to assume that some time in the future, be it distant or near, there will be a visitor messaging feature or something like it, at least?


Yeah, I'm definitely going to implement them soon. Every week the Guild's core improves and it becomes easier and easier to make progress. Also, my power levels keep growing. I'm almost super saiyan.

I actually implemented a visitor message system many pages ago in this thread and posted some screenshots, but I scrapped it because the weekend ended while I was still trying to hook up the notifications for it. More complex than I expected. But these days I'm better at gauging what I can get done in a weekend and how to break down a hard task.

It's too early in the week for me to guess at what I'll try to build next weekend, but here's a random sampling of things that come to mind right now when I think of the Guild's TODO list. Obviously some things are much more important than others.

- Add notification support to subscription system.
- Add email notification opt-in.
- Add album/image management system. I really want people to be able to upload their images to the Guild instead of depending on 3rd party hotlinking. It sucks to visit old threads to find out all of the hotlinked images are lost. Ideally every image on the Guild will be served by the Guild's servers.
- Implement visitor messages
- Implement a basic chat system. This would be a fun feature for me for when I need a break from hard problems, and it's a precursor to the Etherpad system since it gives me more experience with websocket tech. It's also just a good way to build friendships, meet people, and I've never tried catering to any chat-based roleplaying subcommunities before.
- Unread post tracker. Lots of stuff can be built on top of such a system. Even small conveniences like "Go to last unread post".
- Better pagination. Better navigation tools in general.
- Finish mobile/tablet support. It hurts me that portable-device users have to zoom scroll zoom scroll, but man this is a hard feature. I chip away at it a lil more every week.
- Build the search+filter system for roleplays and checks including the ability to sort by any parameter (like show the newest roleplays first).
- Mature/adult opt-in system that helps these players find each other.
- Post/PM autosave/draft system. The UX right now when you get a validation error upon post/topic creation is absolutely horrendous.
- Allow people to delete/leave/archive private convos.
- Dice system.

Damn, I'm just going to stop there.

Most of my time actually goes into the small tweaks/improvements. They just take up a lot more time than I ever expect. Little things always need to be fixed, like how this doesn't dismiss when you click outside of it:

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Too many things on that list to pick a single favorite... Too many...
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- Allow people to delete/leave/archive private convos.

And add new people to them. Such as we are currently posting in PMs in order not to have six different stories with two-three people each going on in a single IC thread, and adding one person to one of those would be very convenient once the characters of one such small group reach another small group of three people...

I personally would still like if the status buttons were :hover rather than click-based (also, that gray text on gray button...).
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That'd be nice to add people.

Yeah, the tooltip was already affected by some random CSS and I was too tired to make it legible. I think it picked up the font-picker styling.
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