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You've been treading the line between having something of a major plot/lore and a total sandbox. IMO this is about the worst place to be. Like I said, having Fate and Invictus so vague and mysterious was the main reason I didn't find them appealing. As I remember it, the two also did little to actually create a major plot or foster interaction, which are the two things that sandboxes lack and which make them slow down and die once people don't know what to post.

Some introspection leads me to agree with you that a total sandbox is bad, but I still think it might behoove you to not use Fate and Invictus as such and either give them a more active role or opt for something else. Well, there's my two cents. See you guys come summer!
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Some introspection leads me to agree with you that a total sandbox is bad, but I still think it might behoove you to not use Fate and Invictus as such and either give them a more active role or opt for something else.


I'm still leaning more towards Kho's point on this subject, but I have to say that I support the idea of having a more active and involved Fate and Invictus, so not to cling so much to that line between sandbox and linear
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Hi. I happened to see this popped up again, so I came to take a look. I don't really have any input on RP structure.
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Checked RPG for the first time in like, a month. This is the only RP I keep in my sub box, so I'll give my input: I liked the idea of Fate and Invictus, but making them more active in the world would make sure that most Gods have a reason to strive towards knowing more about them or destroying them.

As for the reboot, I believe a reboot with a couple references to this iteration could be cool. No need for a backstory, only references.

Either way, I'm not sure if I'll be around RPG for when the RP reboots. I've been trying my hand at solo writing for a while now, and I'm liking it more than RPing.
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@Frettzo I think that's the solution that I've come to from Cyclone's words. I very much like the ability to not be restricted by Fate and Invictus intervening, but I think having them more active so that anyone who is interested can more easily latch on to that story is for the best.

And yup, referencing this version will definitely be something I do (if you notice with Vowzra in this, he referenced things that happened in the orignal, like Zerabil etc.) but I'll leave it as more of an IC thing for players who were in the original to play around with xP

Solo writing is great, but definitely think that RPing can complement it, especially in the development of writing ability department.
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Solo writing is great, but definitely think that RPing can complement it, especially in the development of writing ability department.


Yeah. In my case, I pretty much developed my writing skills with roleplaying. Solo and RP are different in a couple ways, though. When I read my solo, I notice it's far too focused on the present and the action, telling little of what the protagonist is thinking. I'm not even sure if that's a good, neutral or bad thing, or if it's just my style.
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So do all of you intend to recycle the characters that you used in this RP for the next installation?

I doubt that I'll go with Ialu again.
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Yeah, I'll go with Astarte or some variation of her, this time with an actual plan. That, of course, if I'm still around when this reboots.
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I'll stick with mine if I can find him, since he really didn't see any action anyway
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I may choose Escre again. I enjoy the sort of character. However, I could very well go for something a little more emotional and colorful, though still hopefully as mysterious.
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Here I am. . . Sauranath sounds great.
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I just genuinely want to know what will come of Vowzra, Zerabil and Zera (whom we didn't see much of in this RP) - I didn't even get to the bit where Zerabil overwhelms Thulemiz. So I'll probably go with more of the same, though I might change my mind between now and June
The reason you went with Ialu was because you weren't here from the start, [@Cycone], I'd say go with a god character this time around, would definitely be interesting.
Wonder if @Rtron is still going to be our reliable chaos-bringer (because I think that was a vital element in creating story and conflict xD)
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Vestec is, of course, going to return. As for plot input, it seemed to me that we were a sandbox. Fate and Invictus occasionally popped up, but not much.
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@Kho

I'll go with a god character. After tossing around a lot of ideas over the past months (especially now that the trickle of activity in this thread churned up some new ideas) I've settled with a solid idea of a character and a rough approximation of his personality development arc that I'll be shooting for.

To satiate any curiosity that may exist, maybe hear your thoughts, and just get these ideas down so that I don't forget them by summer, I'll share a bit of what I've been thinking.

I'm still unsure of a name as I see that as the most important yet most difficult part of making a good character. Maybe Cyclanos, Cyclos, Thunderaan, or something of the like. The general gist is a god with the domain of air and portfolio of change. So the speech, wind, the seasons, storms, and the like would fall under his realm. Assuming no other characters are created that overlap too heavily, I'd even extend it to encompass cold and fire (cold being somewhat synonymous with wind and I like the idea of the poles being something of a sacred place for his worshipers, and fire just being another primal form of change, and one that is dependent upon air at that).

Personality-wise he'd be defined by his inflated ego and hubris. In general he'd be a tumultuous and somewhat meddlesome character. He'd get along fabulously with Vestec at first, but he's essentially a gasoline can whereas Vestec would be something like a cloud of blazing sparks for the purpose of this metaphor. I can only imagine that they'd inevitably get into a feud over something petty and unintentionally destroy half the world during their little quarrel.

Anyways, being a literal god of change the idea that I have is for him is character developement. Lots of it. A big character developement arc that results in him becoming an almost completely different and unrecognizable character when compared to how he started, over and over again.
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If we're going to go with this again, I want to continue.
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@Cyclone That seems like a very interesting idea! What's the difference between Change and Chaos though? Just for the purpose of clarification, so I know what Astarte would be dealing with.
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@Cyclone That seems like a very interesting idea! What's the difference between Change and Chaos though? Just for the purpose of clarification, so I know what Astarte would be dealing with.


Chaos is malicious. When Vestec causes change it is always evil or bad. Whether immediately or eventually, bad things happen and very few actually benefit from it.

Change isn't necessarily bad. It can be, but it also cannot be. The weather can change with no adverse affects. People can change their ways for better. Smithing can be changed and improved. So on so forth.

All Chaos is Change, but not all Change is Chaos.

Also, Astarte and Vestec are in love. This is canon no matter how many times we restart. THEIR LOVE IS TOO TRUE.
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@Cyclone That seems like a very interesting idea! What's the difference between Change and Chaos though? Just for the purpose of clarification, so I know what Astarte would be dealing with.


Well, Vestec's chaos essentially just equates to destruction from what I've seen. Change is more broad in general. Actually, perhaps Change should be the domain and Air the portfolio, instead of the other way around. That way it makes more sense to make the stretch for having power over cold and fire like I mentioned.

And like Rtron mentioned, another big difference is that Vestec is Chaotic Evil and just malicious. My still unnamed character would be Chaotic Neutral and not at all adverse to occasional acts of benevolence. Sending a hurricane to rip apart entire cities is certainly a violent sort of change, but it's juxtaposed with more happy sorts of results like carrying seeds on the wind and in doing so bringing life to a deserted island.
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Well, Vestec's chaos essentially just equates to destruction from what I've seen. Change is more broad in general. Actually, perhaps Change should be the domain and Air the portfolio, instead of the other way around. That way it makes more sense to make the stretch for having power over cold and fire like I mentioned.


Destruction, Corruption, anything that just really makes the situation worse. :p
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Awesome, thanks for the clarification! Well, I suppose whoever woos Astarte first will be the one who she'll ally with. She's anything but complicated in matters of allying with others.
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