[OOC] Star Wars: Opposing Forces

[PlatinumSkink]

So, if someone shoots at me with a blaster, what kind of test is involved to block it? I mean, I can understand that light-saber prowess is used for light-saber combat and such, lots of strength involved, but in a shoot-out it's mostly a combination of force perception and the dexterity needed to get the light-saber into place to block in time that's needed. ... Then again, the only time a Jedi or Sith would fail such a test would be when there are multiple shooting at them at the same time, at such a time it would be the strength of the body which failed them as they weren't fast enough to evade. Haha. ... So, like, could a perception-check be done before the strength/dexterity check, and maybe make that one easier if it meant that the attacked had been "perceived"?

I'm just a tad confused as to what the Perception stat is going to be used for, as perception is such a vital part of a Force Sensitive yet there are other stats that can deal with the things which perception would be used for in tandem. Haha.

[Gisk]

It is assumed that the Force is guiding all of your actions, so everything you do is particularly well done because of your reflexes. This is why I've had people remove "reflexes" from their skill list, because it's redundant.

Perception has a few uses. For stealth, if a character is hiding, you'll roll your perception against theirs(unless they actually have a stealth skill, then that character would get to use that) to see if you can spot them in time.

In the event of a sneak attack, yes, you would roll perception before rolling combat. If you pass, there is no penalty, if you fail, you'll lose a few dice in your defending roll. Actually, I'm going to come up with a scale for this to make sure it's defined for the event that it happens.

It's also used for GM purposes. If I or TheUnknowable decide there is something hidden in the scene, we'll roll everyone's perception to see who sees it. If no one sees it, too bad.

[PlatinumSkink]

Hm. Alright. I wonder if my idea is horrible or not. Let's see.

Emilliana Ireni Narive

Name: Emilliana Ireni Narive
Species: Human
Age: 17
Appearance:

Image

Bio: Emilliana is a human, born to a lineage of former Jedi (who broke the rules and had kids), a long time ago. They left the Jedi Order and started living as smugglers. Their travels brought them far and wide, and somehow the family was still holding up a small smugglers family-business.

When Emilliana was born, it was on the temperate planet of Saleucami. Her mother took a leave of absence to raise her little daughter on the planet while her father continued the family business. While growing up, her mother distanced herself from illegal activities, taking a part-time job as a mechanic.

While watching her mother act on machines and such, Emilliana often watched and was explained to how things worked. In addition, the little girl was often very eager to ride the machines, and as such often got to test-run the different things people put with them to repair, from weapons to star-ships.

However, it came to pass that her mother, who wanted to distance herself from the smuggler life, seduced a rather well-off man from Nar Shaddaa on a visit, intending on vanishing for her father never to find. Not wishing this to come to pass, Emilliana sent a message to her father, whom came to get her.

The man intended to collect his daughter from the woman who cheated on him, he took Emilliana and flew off in his space-ship. However, the mother told the man she had cheated with that her daughter had been kidnapped, and soon they both had bounty hunters aplenty after them. As the ship had use of two pilots, Emilliana soon got to prove to her father that she was somehow the superior pilot.

They soon had a system in place where Emilliana was the pilot, and her father the combatant should they encounter something. They continued their journey as smugglers, her father dealing with the things they might run into, but on this journey her father sensed something about her. She was TOO good a pilot. Almost as if she could feel what would happen before it happened...

He took a risk and flew back to Saleucami. There, he showed her for the first time the Jedi hideout which their ancestors had left behind, and the Force Sensitive girl got her hands on a few training toys and an ancient blue light-saber. Her father explained what he could, Emilliana beside herself at this revalation. She felt the connection she had to these items, somehow.

However, tragedy struck when the man from Nar Shaddaa had tracked their return to their home planet, assuming they might come back and prepared for it. Emilliana managed to predict that they'd be attacked before they were with the Force, yet even when they ran she was powerless to prevent her father's death by a bounty hunter sniper, even as she saw the shot coming.

Angered at the loss, the Force came to her naturally when it was otherwise elusive. Fuelled by her emotions, Emilliana struck against the bounty hunters sent to collect her and made her way to her father's ship and piloted it alone away from their grasps. With her she had brought all the things of her Jedi ancestor.

To her, the young girl with a clouded mind, it was clear what she had to do. An evil person had snagged her mother and killed her father. She was the descendant of Jedi. Alone on a ship in space, she hid under the electrical storms of the planet Jabiim while using what money she had to stay safe and practice with her Force training items. All for the purpose of one thing.

One day, when she finally felt ready and her money was out, Emilliana took her ship and soared to Nar Shaddaa. Using a twisted connection to the force, she was able to find a hole in the man's protection and killed her mother's new boyfriend, using the force to run her saber through his stomach. It felt good.

Her mother was appalled and ran. The security and guards were after her. However, Emilliana felt free as a bird. Simply jumping out of the window, she was able to escape her pursuers as she landed on an even lower level of Nar Shaddaa with the force to allow better landing and blend into the crowd. They never found her.

Emilliana had never heard of the “Dark Side of the Force”. To her, this was like exploring into a new depth of her powers without knowing the consequences. All she knew was that it felt good and she wanted more of it. More power. Less limits. Her powers are all in flux, but her skill and perception never waned.

Oh? What's that? Her perception detected a pleasant calling in the force. Here on Nar Shaddaa. There is a person, whom the Force is strong with. She should go meet him, Emilliana decided~! It could be fun if she got to tag along with him~! … And with that, the young untrained but powerful girl headed to meet the Jedi Master…

Personality: This girl is very friendly. She's quick to smile and chat with people around her, tries to make friends and helps people out in the most selfless of ways, it seems like. Emilliana has nothing against bragging with her powers and looks forward to showing what she can do. She likes to have fun, and if she isn't having fun she might spice things up on a whim. As long as everything goes according to her plans she'll be as happy as she can be. You might never learn her true nature.

However, Emilliana’s is a twisted soul. She feels little to no pain by crushing those around her. While she is rather patient, her emotions are sensitive and opposing her causes her emotions to flare up. She feels little to no apprehension to harming or killing someone who she would benefit from doing so to. Power attracts her, excitement drives her, and she might find her heart suddenly aflutter to someone who holds both power and the promise of future excitement.

She's confident in her piloting and force abilities.

Equipment: On her belt beneath the robes, she carries her ancestor’s blue light-saber, which still functions. In addition, retrieved from her father's smuggler's ship was a couple (2) thermal detonators to be thrown with force abilities. She doesn't actually have the means to get more of them, but she does have the ones her dad left her. She had four, but used two during her chase after the man on Nar Shaddaa.

Stats and Skills

Dexterity: 1
No, she’s not the fastest one around. In fact, if she can, she'd probably prefer to walk into a battle.

Perception: 5
Force Perception – 2 pts, 7 total. She has a rather natural way of sensing things near and far with the Force…

Strength: 1
Lightsaber – 0 pts, 1 total. Although she has a lightsaber, she has no training using it and is rather frail.

Technical: 4
Piloting – 2 pts, 6 total. She’s a very skilled pilot, and a match for most. Include her Force Perception which she uses while piloting, and she's amazing.
Repairs – 1 pts, 5 total. You’d be surprised about some of the things she can repair. Space-ships or other things…

Force: 5
Force Telekinesis – 2 pts, 7 total. Her preferred way of attacking. She may wield her sword with the force, though this does not increase her skill with it.

I made a character with the means given to me, and tried to make something out of my idea. I'm unsure how many rules I might be breaking, but I did as I thought would give the result I was after, I now offer it to you to break apart. The planets I have included in my bio (apologies for the length, I needed a good explanation for the connection to the dark side) are all from information I got from Wookieepedia, so if I did something wrong I don't know it. I set her up to meet David on Nar Shaddaa, as you suggested in that PM to answer mine.

So, uh. Do tell me what I might need to change. I'm aware that maybe I made her a little too naturally competent in the Force for someone who never had a real master, but that's how I envisioned her. Haha.

Not sure if "Force Perception" is a thing. Let's hear it. Haha.

[Galgarion]

Not being a GM I can't say for sure, but I've used the system this is based on in the past, and 7 on TK is pretty high for untrained if you wanted to go for flavor... I would have to look it up to be sure but I believe that 8 dice in something is considered among the best in the galaxy, if you wanted to alter it for flavor purposes.

[Gisk]

Okay, I don't have time to read all of that right now, so stand by on judgement there. Let's start with stats.

I don't really know what Force Perception is going to do. The question you need to ask/answer is when you're going to roll for it. And I don't see many situations, as you described it, where you would roll that rather than an applicable skill(in your piloting example, youd just roll piloting any time you had a flying conflict). I might instead put the points in Far Seeing under the Force stat. It's a bit more specific, I have a character with the skill as well. It's used to search for things at a distance. It will largely have difficulty based rolls rather than conflict rolls. I think it fills the skill role you meant to with perception.

I'm glad there's a pilot who can hang with David, now.

[PlatinumSkink]

@Galgarion ... Oh, my. In that case, I shouldn't really have ANYTHING any higher than, like, 5. Maybe I should make her just a tad better with a lightsaber, then, instead. XD

@Gisk What I was thinking that Force Perception would do is, like, how those strong with the Force can have, like, visions of events in future or on extremely far-away places, feel when there are other Force-users near and their strength, those unnatural sensing things that they do in the movies that don't exactly seem to be entirely included into just "Perception". But alright, I'll think about it a bit. Far Seeing might do the trick. Haha.

Edit: ... Actually, what I think I meant was that it was some kind of sense that would make her feel the presence of other people around her and roughly what they were doing. As in, some kind of "Force Sensor". Which would make her aware of, for example, a sniper on top of the building intending on sniping her father in her backstory. Just that she'd be very sensitive to the forces of other people. Could potentially reveal individuals intending on ambushing her/sneak past her, or guide her towards a strong individual (like at the end of her bio). Something like that?

... Though, maybe in the case of Force Sensitives, that's just plain perception. Haha.

Edit 2: A version with Far Sight instead.

Emilliana Ireni Narive

Name: Emilliana Ireni Narive
Species: Human
Age: 17
Appearance:

Image

Bio: Emilliana is a human, born to a lineage of former Jedi (who broke the rules and had kids), a long time ago. They left the Jedi Order and started living as smugglers. Their travels brought them far and wide, and somehow the family was still holding up a small smugglers family-business.

When Emilliana was born, it was on the temperate planet of Saleucami. Her mother took a leave of absence to raise her little daughter on the planet while her father continued the family business. While growing up, her mother distanced herself from illegal activities, taking a part-time job as a mechanic.

While watching her mother act on machines and such, Emilliana often watched and was explained to how things worked. In addition, the little girl was often very eager to ride the machines, and as such often got to test-run the different things people put with them to repair, from weapons to star-ships.

However, it came to pass that her mother, who wanted to distance herself from the smuggler life, seduced a rather well-off man from Nar Shaddaa on a visit, intending on vanishing for her father never to find. Not wishing this to come to pass, Emilliana sent a message to her father, whom came to get her.

The man intended to collect his daughter from the woman who cheated on him, he took Emilliana and flew off in his space-ship. However, the mother told the man she had cheated with that her daughter had been kidnapped, and soon they both had bounty hunters aplenty after them. As the ship had use of two pilots, Emilliana soon got to prove to her father that she was somehow the superior pilot.

They soon had a system in place where Emilliana was the pilot, and her father the combatant should they encounter something. They continued their journey as smugglers, her father dealing with the things they might run into, but on this journey her father sensed something about her. She was TOO good a pilot. Almost as if she could feel what would happen before it happened...

He took a risk and flew back to Saleucami. There, he showed her for the first time the Jedi hideout which their ancestors had left behind, and the Force Sensitive girl got her hands on a few training toys and an ancient blue lightsaber. Her father explained what he could, Emilliana beside herself at this revalation. She felt the connection she had to these items, somehow.

However, tragedy struck when the man from Nar Shaddaa had tracked their return to their home planet, assuming they might come back and prepared for it. Emilliana managed to predict that they'd be attacked before they were with the Force, yet even when they ran she was powerless to prevent her father's death by a bounty hunter sniper, even as she saw the shot coming.

Angered at the loss, the Force came to her naturally when it was otherwise elusive. Fuelled by her emotions, Emilliana struck against the bounty hunters sent to collect her and made her way to her father's ship and piloted it alone away from their grasps. With her she had brought all the things of her Jedi ancestor.

To her, the young girl with a clouded mind, it was clear what she had to do. An evil person had snagged her mother and killed her father. She was the descendant of Jedi. Alone on a ship in space, she hid under the electrical storms of the planet Jabiim while using what money she had to stay safe and practice with her Force training items. All for the purpose of one thing.

One day, when she finally felt ready and her money was out, Emilliana took her ship and soared to Nar Shaddaa. Using a twisted connection to the force, she was able to force her way through the protection and killed her mother's new boyfriend, using the force to run her saber through his stomach. It felt good.

Her mother was appalled and ran. The security and guards were after her. However, Emilliana felt free as a bird. Simply jumping out of the window, she was able to escape her pursuers as she landed on an even lower level of Nar Shaddaa with the force to allow better landing and blend into the crowd. They never found her.

Emilliana had never heard of the “Dark Side of the Force”. To her, this was like exploring into a new depth of her powers without knowing the consequences. All she knew was that it felt good and she wanted more of it. More power. Less limits. Her powers are all in flux, but her skill and perception never waned.

Oh? What's that? Her perception detected a pleasant calling in the force. Here on Nar Shaddaa. There is a person, whom the Force is strong with. She should go meet him, Emilliana decided~! It could be fun if she got to tag along with him~! … And with that, the young untrained but powerful girl headed to meet the Jedi Master…

Personality: This girl is very friendly. She's quick to smile and chat with people around her, tries to make friends and helps people out in the most selfless of ways, it seems like. Emilliana has nothing against bragging with her powers and looks forward to showing what she can do. She likes to have fun, and if she isn't having fun she might spice things up on a whim. As long as everything goes according to her plans she'll be as happy as she can be. You might never learn her true nature.

However, Emilliana’s is a twisted soul. She feels little to no pain by crushing those around her. While she is rather patient, her emotions are sensitive and opposing her causes her emotions to flare up. She feels little to no apprehension to harming or killing someone who she would benefit from doing so to. Power attracts her, excitement drives her, and she might find her heart suddenly aflutter to someone who holds both power and the promise of future excitement.

She's confident in her piloting and force abilities.

Equipment: On her belt beneath the robes, she carries her ancestor’s blue lightsaber, which still functions. In addition, retrieved from her father's smuggler's ship was a couple (2) thermal detonators to be thrown with force abilities. She doesn't actually have the means to get more of them, but she does have the ones her dad left her. She had four, but used two during her chase after the man on Nar Shaddaa.

Stats and Skills

Dexterity: 1
No, she’s not the fastest one around. In fact, if she can, she'd probably prefer to walk into a battle.

Perception: 5
Emilliana's always been very perceptive with the Force, allowing her to sense her surroundings and what will happen from them.

Strength: 1
Lightsaber – 0 pts, 1 total. Although she has a lightsaber, she has no training using it and is rather frail.

Technical: 4
Piloting – 2 pts, 6 total. She’s a very skilled pilot, and a match for most. The bonus skill she seemingly gets by being Force sensitive is included.
Repairs – 1 pts, 5 total. You’d be surprised about some of the things she can repair. Space-ships or other things…

Force: 5
Force Telekinesis – 2 pts, 7 total. Her preferred way of attacking. She may wield her sword with the force, though this does not increase her skill with it.
Far Seeing – 2 pts, 7 total. Emilliana is quite efficient at using the Force to spot things that interest her on quite the distance.

[Gisk]

The difference is this:

If it's active, then it's a skill and should go under Force(because it's an intentional application of the Force). If it's passive, then it's just her Perception skill.

[Gisk]

Alright.

I agree with Galgarion, her TK is unreasonably strong. Just from a flavor standpoint, sure she has more raw power than many other characters, but should that make that particular skill of hers equal to both of the masters?

I would suggest moving just one point over to saber skill. If she's used any Jedi training methods, she should have at least some modicum of skill that comes from more than her own natural physicality.

[Diabolicalrhapsody]

There are a few high force individuals in the mix and from the look of things some of those are leaning towards the dark side xp

[PlatinumSkink]

My reason for 7 TK was to be able to counter the lightsaber duelists with better combat stats (like 7 in combat things and such), as in a sticky situation that's what she'll be using as her main weapon. But of course, I understand what you mean, looking at this from a in-universe perspective. This is reasonable.
Also because I wanted better Telekinesis than Huleez Dryne. I wanted to at least one-up her in my specialty in a one-on-one fight. Haha.
The only difference in the sheet below is that one point being moved over and "no training" is replaced with "little training".

Emilliana Ireni Narive

Name: Emilliana Ireni Narive
Species: Human
Age: 17
Appearance:

Image

Bio: Emilliana is a human, born to a lineage of former Jedi (who broke the rules and had kids), a long time ago. They left the Jedi Order and started living as smugglers. Their travels brought them far and wide, and somehow the family was still holding up a small smugglers family-business.

When Emilliana was born, it was on the temperate planet of Saleucami. Her mother took a leave of absence to raise her little daughter on the planet while her father continued the family business. While growing up, her mother distanced herself from illegal activities, taking a part-time job as a mechanic.

While watching her mother act on machines and such, Emilliana often watched and was explained to how things worked. In addition, the little girl was often very eager to ride the machines, and as such often got to test-run the different things people put with them to repair, from weapons to star-ships.

However, it came to pass that her mother, who wanted to distance herself from the smuggler life, seduced a rather well-off man from Nar Shaddaa on a visit, intending on vanishing for her father never to find. Not wishing this to come to pass, Emilliana sent a message to her father, whom came to get her.

The man intended to collect his daughter from the woman who cheated on him, he took Emilliana and flew off in his space-ship. However, the mother told the man she had cheated with that her daughter had been kidnapped, and soon they both had bounty hunters aplenty after them. As the ship had use of two pilots, Emilliana soon got to prove to her father that she was somehow the superior pilot.

They soon had a system in place where Emilliana was the pilot, and her father the combatant should they encounter something. They continued their journey as smugglers, her father dealing with the things they might run into, but on this journey her father sensed something about her. She was TOO good a pilot. Almost as if she could feel what would happen before it happened...

He took a risk and flew back to Saleucami. There, he showed her for the first time the Jedi hideout which their ancestors had left behind, and the Force Sensitive girl got her hands on a few training toys and an ancient blue lightsaber. Her father explained what he could, Emilliana beside herself at this revalation. She felt the connection she had to these items, somehow.

However, tragedy struck when the man from Nar Shaddaa had tracked their return to their home planet, assuming they might come back and prepared for it. Emilliana managed to predict that they'd be attacked before they were with the Force, yet even when they ran she was powerless to prevent her father's death by a bounty hunter sniper, even as she saw the shot coming.

Angered at the loss, the Force came to her naturally when it was otherwise elusive. Fuelled by her emotions, Emilliana struck against the bounty hunters sent to collect her and made her way to her father's ship and piloted it alone away from their grasps. With her she had brought all the things of her Jedi ancestor.

To her, the young girl with a clouded mind, it was clear what she had to do. An evil person had snagged her mother and killed her father. She was the descendant of Jedi. Alone on a ship in space, she hid under the electrical storms of the planet Jabiim while using what money she had to stay safe and practice with her Force training items. All for the purpose of one thing.

One day, when she finally felt ready and her money was out, Emilliana took her ship and soared to Nar Shaddaa. Using a twisted connection to the force, she was able to force her way through the protection and killed her mother's new boyfriend, using the force to run her saber through his stomach. It felt good.

Her mother was appalled and ran. The security and guards were after her. However, Emilliana felt free as a bird. Simply jumping out of the window, she was able to escape her pursuers as she landed on an even lower level of Nar Shaddaa with the force to allow better landing and blend into the crowd. They never found her.

Emilliana had never heard of the “Dark Side of the Force”. To her, this was like exploring into a new depth of her powers without knowing the consequences. All she knew was that it felt good and she wanted more of it. More power. Less limits. Her powers are all in flux, but her skill and perception never waned.

Oh? What's that? Her perception detected a pleasant calling in the force. Here on Nar Shaddaa. There is a person, whom the Force is strong with. She should go meet him, Emilliana decided~! It could be fun if she got to tag along with him~! … And with that, the young untrained but powerful girl headed to meet the Jedi Master…

Personality: This girl is very friendly. She's quick to smile and chat with people around her, tries to make friends and helps people out in the most selfless of ways, it seems like. Emilliana has nothing against bragging with her powers and looks forward to showing what she can do. She likes to have fun, and if she isn't having fun she might spice things up on a whim. As long as everything goes according to her plans she'll be as happy as she can be. You might never learn her true nature.

However, Emilliana’s is a twisted soul. She feels little to no pain by crushing those around her. While she is rather patient, her emotions are sensitive and opposing her causes her emotions to flare up. She feels little to no apprehension to harming or killing someone who she would benefit from doing so to. Power attracts her, excitement drives her, and she might find her heart suddenly aflutter to someone who holds both power and the promise of future excitement.

She's confident in her piloting and force abilities.

Equipment: On her belt beneath the robes, she carries her ancestor’s blue lightsaber, which still functions. In addition, retrieved from her father's smuggler's ship was a couple (2) thermal detonators to be thrown with force abilities. She doesn't actually have the means to get more of them, but she does have the ones her dad left her. She had four, but used two during her chase after the man on Nar Shaddaa.

Stats and Skills

Dexterity: 1
No, she’s not the fastest one around. In fact, if she can, she'd probably prefer to walk into a battle.

Perception: 5
Emilliana's always been very perceptive with the Force, allowing her to sense her surroundings and what will happen from them.

Strength: 1
Lightsaber – 1 pt, 2 total. Although she has a lightsaber, she has little training using it and is rather frail.

Technical: 4
Piloting – 2 pts, 6 total. She’s a very skilled pilot, and a match for most. The bonus skill she seemingly gets by being Force sensitive is included.
Repairs – 1 pts, 5 total. You’d be surprised about some of the things she can repair. Space-ships or other things…

Force: 5
Force Telekinesis – 1 pt, 6 total. Her preferred way of attacking. She may wield her sword with the force, though this does not increase her skill with it.
Far Seeing – 2 pts, 7 total. Emilliana is quite efficient at using the Force to spot things that interest her on quite the distance.

[Gisk]

Alright, you're good. Move it to the Character tab, and keep it in hiders.

[Gisk]

@Minimum@TheUnknowable

Got a GM ruling regarding events in the collab. It was suggested that one cannot put their blaster through the droideka's shield, and whether you can or not it was asked exactly how we would roll in this situation. Here is a quote of my ruling, I wanted to bring it here so anyone might argue with or against it.

I'm ruling in favor of Min here. I agree that the show made mistakes, but it is canon, and is therefore a valid source of precedence for universe mechanics.
I will, however, take a closer look into other canon sources of info, see if I can find more about how they work to give a better ruling.

Now, about the roll. I think for this move, we need to roll Kilgaris's plain Dex stat against the droid's blaster skill. Because it's a point blank shot, the question here isn't whether he hits the target, it's whether he can get into the shield to take the shot without getting hit himself.

[Gisk]

Slight edit to that ruling: Kilgaris's acrobatics skill is applicable, allowing him to dodge and avoid the fire as he closes the distance between him and the droid. So he would roll that skill against the droid's blaster instead.

[Galgarion]

Sent you another PM for a clarification

[Gisk]

I'm going to make an executive request here. I know titanpad has a chat function that's really useful, but that's off set by the fact that the GM can't see the collab properly. Could we move the collab to google docs? So that I can follow it and make rolls when necessary?

[Galgarion]

Linky thing here

[Galgarion]

Did it let you in?

[PlatinumSkink]

I've posted my character. I'm ready to get going~

I'll assume this Nar Shaddaa collab takes place, like, before everything else, since as far as I know David is also on Korriban along with the rest, just hiding in the ship. I didn't really understand how that is going to fit into what the rest is doing, but I was suggested to join in there, so suppose I will~

I kind of imagined that when David comes back to whatever ship he used to get there he'd find Emilliana inspecting the hull or maybe downright somehow gotten into the ship and looking over the controls, because she's playful like that. Unless there was, like, someone else onboard then maybe she shouldn't do that. Teh-heh. That she, like, followed her Far Sight sense after feeling that there was someone strong with the force at that location, but when she got there he had gone to do whatever he wanted to do on Nar Shaddaa, and she just decided to "I'll wait here for him, then!". It'll mean that I'll have to wait until he has finished talking to Nira but that's fine with me. Haha.

[Gisk]

David left his protégés on Korriban to follow a lead. He will return with two new apprentices, who will be involved in events that follow.

[TheUnknowable]

@PlatinumSkinkMy apprentice, a Gungun Sith, is on Nar Shaddaa. You could meet him and he could send you to Korriban.