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@Blue DemonAs he has said, you dont have to be a junker/diver. I am making a airship piolet that will go to ground too. I dont think you have to, again, I am not having magic just lots of cool gadgest and maybe some magic equpiment, the mechanical limbs is a way of saying "You cant have magic and metal limbs". Demonology, No fucking clue


Yup, gonna have my character non-magic too, he's gonna be a machinist who can create a lot of battlefield traps and support gadgets using A/B. Us normals gotta stick together!
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This is an oddball of a CS.

I hope you enjoy Ebenezer as much as I enjoyed writing him. :D



My notes. I think there needs to be just a bit of clarification here.
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@tatszicoGood luck with that normal bit!
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COOL!! We're getting lots of peeps in!!
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Looking forward to it, friend.


This is an oddball of a CS.

I hope you enjoy Ebenezer as much as I enjoyed writing him. :D



Hey, I encourage worldbuildin' and abilities outside the norm. My manta is 'anything is possible, but everything can be explained' so I'm happy to see something as interesting as Demonology becoming a prospect.

Anyways, let's get this show on the road:



Summary:
I need more details on the imp, and his demonology expertise. That's all, though. I really really like the character so far.

Also, with your permission, I'd like to add a section for Demonology, vaguely describing the theory of the study in the initial post. You could do this yourself if you'd like, I just prefer to have it in there somewhere for documentation purposes. It's fine if you'd prefer I didn't, though.

Lastly, although it's not necessary to use arcane/ki to describe your abilities, all magic, including practical demonology, would stem from one or the other in some way, since the three philosophies of energy are the building blocks of reality.


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Magical Capabilities: None
Well he has arcane runes carved on him, and presumably some sort of ability to communicate, control, or summon demons, so he can't really lie about this unless he "knows" a really bad tattoo artist.
Body Modifications: None, unless you count the scars
Weapons and Equipment: Four tomes on Demonology, a chest full of arcane supplies for Demonology (Summoning, slaying, etc) Sword, twin pistols. His Demon Imp companion.
Any specific kind of sword?

So your character isn't a Diver? Because the IC kind of is going to be centered around Divers, outside of special cases and NPCs.


My notes. I think there needs to be just a bit of clarification here.

1) According to Ebenezer the ability to summon/control Demons doesn't come from you. Anyone can do it. It comes from the ritual and the power of the world. So nope. I stand by my answer. No magical capabilities.

2) Nope. Typical sword. I can look up and see if there's a fancy name for one. But there's nothing fancy about it.

3) I was told he doesn't have to be. I asked tex. If you think that's wrong, take it up with him.

I'm working on my reply to tex. It'll be up a bit later after I write it all out. (Of course I add so much work to myself. :( )
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So your character isn't a Diver? Because the IC kind of is going to be centered around Divers, outside of special cases and NPCs.


3) I was told he doesn't have to be. I asked tex. If you think that's wrong, take it up with him.


The thing about being a 'Diver' is that it's more of a label that people push onto you. If Ebenezer doesn't consider himself a Diver, that's fine. But if he leaves the confines of the city on his own, without an escort or some government order, than others would still consider him as a Diver.

Most Divers spend a lot of their time outside nation borders, while some simply leave their homes whenever it's most profitable. 'Diver' is really just a label for people who leave the borders, so if people don't know about that, they wouldn't even consider you to be a Diver.

Not to mention, some Divers take pride in the title. From the sound of it, Ebenezer is more concerned with studying (He is a scholar after all) than he is with profit, so he doesn't match the common Diver dynamic, despite the fact that he's left the border before. The occupation tab is more of a 'what does your character consider themselves as?' sort of deal.
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From the sound of it, Ebenezer is more concerned with studying (He is a scholar after all) than he is with profit, so he doesn't match the common Diver dynamic, despite the fact that he's left the border before. The occupation tab is more of a 'what does your character consider themselves as?' sort of deal.

Correct. He doesn't consider himself a Diver.

Appearance: Ebenezer is six foot tall. He has medium length brown hair and a beard-mustache combo that is neatly kept. He has dark green eyes, nearly black. He has fair skin from spending lots of time indoors. He typically dressed in a suit or work casual. He always wears long sleeves, gloves, and a scarf to cover as much skin as possible. Under the clothes are carved symbols in his skin. Most appear to be nonsense, but others are arcane symbols found in the uncharted places in the world.
I hope to see you expand upon these arcane symbols in the future. They must have some meaning, eventually, and I'm very curious to see what you come up with.
Primary Focus: Demonology
Magical Capabilities: None
Here's where I'm a little confused. Is Ebenezer actually capable of speaking with or summoning demons? If so, I would consider that to be magical to some degree, even if there isn't a way to explain it in-character just yet. It's fine if he's able to talk with/summon demons, but I'd like these abilities to be listed explicitly.
Weapons and Equipment: Four tomes on Demonology, a chest full of arcane supplies for Demonology (Summoning, slaying, etc) Sword, twin pistols. His Demon Imp companion.
Read last comment, I'd consider the demon imp to be magical in nature, more like a summon of sorts. Or is her permanently summoned to his side, and invisible to others?

Although Demonology certainly isn't explainable by current studies, I'd have to infer that it has some magical influence. The one thing I need more detail on is his imp companion, and his capabilities. Other than that, I love it.


1) I can expand on them. If you want I can add them to the CS as we go, or be a sad puppy and do it now. Haha. (I'm currently not in the mood for writing atm, but I can do it tomorrow.)

2) He is capable of speaking and summoning them. However, as I mentioned to Hat earlier. Demonology doesn't use any innate abilities. Unless you count memorizing symbols and rituals. If you want to know more about the rituals, I guess I can go into detail, per quote below V

3) Imp is permanently summoned, until Ebenezer decided to send Imp back to where ever demons are from. (Void most likely) And Imp is invisible to everyone but Ebenezer. I wanted it to seem like he's crazy and imagining Imp. (Which he may or may not be)

Summary:
I need more details on the imp, and his demonology expertise. That's all, though. I really really like the character so far.

Also, with your permission, I'd like to add a section for Demonology, vaguely describing the theory of the study in the initial post. You could do this yourself if you'd like, I just prefer to have it in there somewhere for documentation purposes. It's fine if you'd prefer I didn't, though.

Lastly, although it's not necessary to use arcane/ki to describe your abilities, all magic, including practical demonology, would stem from one or the other in some way, since the three philosophies of energy are the building blocks of reality.

So I need to flesh out Demonology as a study, which includes information about demons (Imp by association), symbols and rituals and implements used in summoning and control. Did I miss anything?
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My notes. I think there needs to be just a bit of clarification here.


...IDK if u're being sarcastic and hinting at something, or u're actually being genuine saying that. D;
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@Blue DemonThe sword thing is mostly a personal quip, since there's broadswords, longswords, shortswords, katana, rapiers. Mostly me nitpicking. I do that.

I don't think the not being a Diver thing is wrong. Was mostly a curiosity, and just something I wanted you to be aware of.
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@Blue DemonThe sword thing is mostly a personal quip, since there's broadswords, longswords, shortswords, katana, rapiers. Mostly me nitpicking. I do that.


I guess it would most likely be a long sword. XD
I'll add that in.
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So I need to flesh out Demonology as a study, which includes information about demons (Imp by association), symbols and rituals and implements used in summoning and control. Did I miss anything?


Correct. You don't have to explain all the demons now, but I would like them to have a small bio as they come in-character, just so I have an idea of what they're capable of.

From the way you explained it, practical demonology is all about the rituals, yea? If this is the case, then I think I'd still consider it magical in nature, although instead of manipulating arcane energy using your body, it's more along the lines of the ritual itself manipulating it, which would indeed mean that Ebenezer is not influencing arcane energy directly, but merely guiding it, in a sense.

So as an example, if a ritual calls for a set of specific arcane symbols to be drawn in a circle with a set number of lit candles, then this set up of symbols and objects would somehow interact with arcane energy to summon demons, either by opening a rift in the fabric of space time, or outright harnessing ethereal beings that would otherwise be unable to interact with humans. If it's something along these lines, I'm perfectly ok with it, and it adds a layer of complexity to arcane manipulation that goes outside the CMAS understanding of how arcane energy works.

It's the same principal that technology in Thorisa functions, where they harness arcane energy to perform a function in a specific way, wherein a ritual would do this to summon a demon.
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...IDK if u're being sarcastic and hinting at something, or u're actually being genuine saying that. D;


A bit of both. I didn't have as many issues with the character (personally I have no real issues), just the way that Arcane is defined in this RP is a lot more broad than "doing the magics."

And yes, it's also a joke about how the character is a story-changing inconsistent crazy boy.
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So as an example, if a ritual calls for a set of specific arcane symbols to be drawn in a circle with a set number of lit candles, then this set up of symbols and objects would somehow interact with arcane energy to summon demons, either by opening a rift in the fabric of space time, or outright harnessing ethereal beings that would otherwise be unable to interact with humans. If it's something along these lines, I'm perfectly ok with it, and it adds a layer of complexity to arcane manipulation that goes outside the CMAS understanding of how arcane energy works.


It would probably be more the the later, which I bolded, since that also keeps with the "Is Ebenezer actually completely insane?!" instead of outright going, yeah, he's actually onto something. Maybe he's not crazy. Because I like the: is he/isn't he? dynamic going on.

Question:
Does that mean I actually need to change anything in my magic section? Because there was points brought up by both of you about his magic usage. (excluding the fact I have to add rituals, symbols, etc)

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And yes, it's also a joke about how the character is a story-changing inconsistent crazy boy.

I keep everyone on their toes. XD
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It would probably be more the the later, which I bolded, since that also keeps with the "Is Ebenezer actually completely insane?!" instead of outright going, yeah, he's actually onto something. Maybe he's not crazy. Because I like the: is he/isn't he? dynamic going on.

Question:
Does that mean I actually need to change anything in my magic section? Because there was points brought up by both of you about his magic usage. (excluding the fact I have to add rituals, symbols, etc)


The only other thing I'd like to see is an explanation of the imp, which you can put in the magical section just for organization purposes, if nothing else. Other than that, nope, everything's good.
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Blurb on Demonology you can feel free to reword/add to it at your own pleasure. Because I am lazy right now, but I want to get the basics down.






EDIT: Updated Ebenezer
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Blurb on Demonology you can feel free to reword/add to it at your own pleasure. Because I am lazy right now, but I want to get the basics down.






EDIT: Updated Ebenezer


Alright, you're good to drop your sheet in the characters section now, and I'll go ahead and fiddle with the demonology description a tad to coexist with this universe's physical laws. Sorry for the trials, but details are details and whatnot.

I think I'll have Demons fall under a void nature that won't be common knowledge until far later in the RP.
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Alright, you're good to drop your sheet in the characters section now, and I'll go ahead and fiddle with the demonology description a tad to coexist with this universe's physical laws. Sorry for the trials, but details are details and whatnot.

I think I'll have Demons fall under a void nature that won't be common knowledge until far later in the RP.


@Blue DemonI hope the imp is absolutely adorable. And will probably rend our flesh.
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I'm ok with what you have so far! Looks like he's turning out pretty good. Finish it up and I'll give it a final evaluation, as will my Co-GM


Alright, here's the updated version. Let me know what you think.



I also figured I'd address your comments about his abilities a little.

Stoneskin: Most of the defensive power here is intended to defend him against the blunt impacts of parrying or knocking aside a strike, rather than directly blocking a sword someone swings at him. Think of the various Iron-whatever techniques of Chinese martial arts.

Reactive Ki: That's the main reason I mentioned efficiency rather than direct usability. He is intended to be worn out somewhat quickly overall, but be durable enough to take the hits he needs to ruin someone's day.

Barrier: By no means is this supposed to be a catch-all defense. It only really protects against physical objects and the force they carry with them. While it will stop a fireball or lightning bolt or something similar, it's only because they are coming into contact with what is essentially a solid object. It will not however stop the heat, sound, or light from either of these effects, and enough force and energy will overwhelm and shatter the barrier. When that happens it's like a flash grenade going off right in front of him.

Kinetomancy: At the longer distances yes, but closer up (mostly within his physical reach) he is able to focus it more. What starts out as a blade-sharp wedge of force that he projects as a punch would start out as enough to sever someone's limb, but quickly deteriorate into a blunt impact within about a foot. From there it would be like a solid punch for a few more feet before growing weaker, and so on and so forth.

EDIT:: It's also worth mentioning that he would be rather conservative in using both of the latter two abilities, as they would quickly become a major drain on his stamina.
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Alright, you're good to drop your sheet in the characters section now, and I'll go ahead and fiddle with the demonology description a tad to coexist with this universe's physical laws. Sorry for the trials, but details are details and whatnot.

I think I'll have Demons fall under a void nature that won't be common knowledge until far later in the RP.

Fiddle away. Better you than me. Haha.

And NP, on the trials. Should have thought my actions through. Demonology=More work. I just should have made him insane only. Instead I made him super special.

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@Blue DemonI hope the imp is absolutely adorable. And will probably rend our flesh.

If you find furry ears and claws to be adorable. Sure. XD
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