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@Archmage MC

Pretty sure he was trying to say that your character can do too much and that it would be very easy for you to exploit the system and go OP; just that.

As for that Iron Man thing, look at it like this. Say you were playing Batman, and instead of being just simple Batman, on your sheet you had every different batsuit and gadget that Batman had ever used in his +70 year run. That would seem a little much, would it not? Batman has a whole RP to gain more abilities and gadgets, why would he start with everything? Your character seems fine at its core, and I don’t think it’d be impossible for her to learn or get some of that stuff later. Like, with everything you can do, does light REALLY need that ACME satchel or that hole? Maybe Light’s not too strong and has to train to increase her strength and speed? There’s so much you could do with your character in the course of this RP to make her better.

@Marik

A really good thing that could solve all of this without KL making such a sweeping statement would be telling us the exact powerlevel he wants everyone to be at. Course with a demigod character not being a villain, it would at minimum have to be Spiderman later years or Avengers. Or if we're talking DC, Probably JL without Superman or Young Justice.

I get what your kinda saying, but I made her with Avengers power in mind or maybe a level below that. I mean, look at the vast majority of the Toon Physics stuff and you see most of them are inconsiqential, harmful, or compound on each other to basically equate to "Gravity has a delayed effect", and there are... 3 I'm going to say, that are actually impactful. The rest is mostly standard fare, and her weaknesses more than make up for all of that due to being critically weak to pretty much any control type power or character and being unlucky to boot!

I mean, it is a 'create a universe' sorta thing, so we shouldn't start out not being able to even handle say... I dunno... a C list villain. Because at that point why not just be a US army soldier with a SCAR? You'd be far more effective than any superhero at that level. Heck, Farmer Bob with a shotgun is more effective than a superhero at that point, or anyone with a gun.

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@Archmage MC This is what he said. I see nowhere in there him saying he rejected someone with those abilities. He was using it as an example purely. What I get from this is the fact that your power list is too long. She is able to do too much. If that means she needs to be C-level, then so be it, join the rest of us who have limited power usage. But again, this is something you need to ask KL about, because this is not my game. I am sure he'll poke you when he gets on. Or PM him. Either or and then you can figure out where to go from there.

@FantasyChic

Eh, what I'm getting from it is. "You can't have any powerset that can make you versatile or allow you to go outside of some pre-defined notions of mine" or "I don't want to have to even think about this character." (Though the former feels more correct due to his example.) So that means out of his archtypes, the following archtypes are contradictory to his vision from his statement.

DemiGod
Advanced Techno (Even lists Iron man there as an example to follow, but says no to said kind of character in your quoted post!)
Archer/Sharpshooter (unless they have no trick arrows or shots)
Cosmic Outlaw (Due to his example of Starlord)
Plant Person (Basically a nature version of Iron Man)
Elemental
Genius

And potentially the Wildcard heroes, Vigilante heroes, and Aliens.

Basically by saying what he did to shoot me down, he also set a bad precedent that he doesn't want versatile or strong powersets or characters that are say, 2000's Teen Titans that have a mix of comedy and seriousness. Sorta both actually.

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@Archmage MC I don't think he was hating on Ironman or gadgets. I think he was only using them as an example for your sheet. I dunno though, have to ask Lantern what he means.

@FantasyChic

What I got is that hes not a fan of a long list of D or C list powers, which is basically what every gadget hero has. And then he went on to say how he denied someone who wanted to be an Iron man char and had a long list of powers that Iron man can do due to being a tech/gadget based hero.

Its just really confusing how hes all over the place with what he does and doesn't want, especially in an RP thats supposed to be 'build a world' or 'open ended' instead of an 'on the rails' kinda thing where being more restrictive makes more sense.

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I think he's asking for people to start their characters as C-list so that in-game events can transpire, leading to their advancement by story means. If they came in with S-list powers, then what is there to really learn or develop? It's not so difficult taking an OP character and telling them not to be OP as compared to starting out with a C-list character and by sandbox and constant interactions with other writers (that you hope to constantly have), devising plots where they could train, improve, and learn new abilities. To me, that's way more challenging in a sandbox game versus if it was GM-led, then that would be a different story.

@Holy Soldier

Thats a huge problem though.

C list powers can't improve much beyond their initial conception. This isn't One Peace where the powers are intentionally vague and there is haki around and all that. If your saying they're improved by tech, that means that they might as well be a slightly different Ironman or something since tech goes a super long way. Plus tech replicates most C list powers and some B list powers anyway.

I mean, you could just have everyone be Avengers or just below it level at the start and you'd still have lots and LOTS of things you could do. Or JL without Superman, so much you can do. You don't need to start off super super weak as that tends to tire or bore people pretty fast in a superhero RP from the few dozens I've seen start and die within a week.

If you really want to start with a weak to strong story, start at Spiderman early year levels at least, not the hordes of baddies that early year Spiderman could defeat super easy. Because if your that weak, pretty sure any loony with a shotgun could end you right quick or do your job.

Also if you have a Demigod archtype, your sorta forcing yourself to start at Avengers level or below it unless they're the main big bad.

@Rin Honestly, not sure I agree with the C-list argument. I think we got a good variety, some I would argue could be B or even A list.

@FantasyChic

If that was the case lantern wouldn't be hating on Ironman or other gadget heroes, and we wouldn't have the demigod archtype.

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I'm playing a full on hero to balance out all this grey, but ya know, lantern doesn't want anything above a c list hero.

I mean, if your problem with say, ironman, is how gadgets and tech as a whole let you mimic crappy superpowers which leads to a long power list, thats sorta what you can do irl anyway.

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@Archmage MC The main reason I don't like the idea of this character comes from the fact 75% of the CS is a long ass powers list with 30 powers when including the 24 bullet points for Toon Physics. I can't accept this anymore than I could an Iron Man knockoff with 30 abilities in a suit of armor. It's way too much and uses elements from too many different power sets, and when it takes 24 bullet points to explain all the things included in one power... it gives me a headache trying to wrap my mind around it all. It's like when somebody has telepathy but then has two dozen applications for the power. I don't want that in the game anymore than I do a Deadpool knockoff who breaks the fourth wall.

@Lmpkio It will start before the weekend's end. Giving it time to work a few more recruits in and to finish my own character.

@Aro Reaper is looking badass so far.

@Marik I moved my robot snake rider to the Atlantian archetype just to make room for somebody like Marionette. Awesome concept.

~KL~

@The Kid Lantern

So you'd rather I be vague? I can be vague if thats what you want. But then thats not really high casual.

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Also @The Kid Lantern, there seems to be two more profiles in need of acceptance. One coming from Aro, and another coming from Marik. Just wanted to make sure that you're aware of their presences.

@Lmpkio

And me xD. I've tweaked Light since the last time you saw her, but I don't think you've actually ever seen her have you Kid Lantern?

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Archetype: Wildcard

Name: Light

Alias: Toon Girl

Age: 24

Powers:

Toonforce

Toonforce
Light has the powers, physics, ext... of a toon as well as its weaknesses.

Toon Regeneration: Its said that its nearly impossible to kill a toon, and thats true in the case of Light. While she still takes damage as normal and can be knocked out like normal (and sometimes even easier than most people), she can regenerate from any aliment, including being vaporized, her mind shattered or erased, her spirit taken out of her body, ext... She regenerates by 'popping' back to her normal state after a bit of taking no damage, sometimes having bandages or something on her that indicates what she was last hit by. While she can regenerate from pretty much any state, more extreme states or supernatural states take her more time to regenerate from, especially nonlethal states such as being turned into a kid, ext... She can probably still be killed by cosmic forces though.

Toon Physics: Physics affect Light differently since she is a cartoon. This means...

• Light's body 'stretches', usually in moments of rapid acceleration or if she is being pulled on from two sides. Her normal movements look cartoony as well. Her body can stretch and grow to hit something, but she can't stretch more than 1/5th of a meter in this way.
• If Light walks off a high point, such as a cliff, but is unaware that she is walking off of an edge, she will continue to walk on air as if it was ground. When she realizes she is no longer on solid ground, she will fall like normal.
• While falling, Light can stop when approaching the ground to readjust where she will land, before continuing to fall at the rate she was falling before she stopped.
• Injuries affect her differently than normal. For example, being caught up in an explosive causes her to appear ash covered before possibly breaking apart into a pile of ash, or being crushed causing her to become a pancake, ext...
• Light can't bleed.
• If Light is hit by a sharp object or a hot object on her backside, she'll be propelled away from the object, usually on fire if it was a hot object.
• If Light places her finger inside the barrel of a gun, she will cause the gun to misfire.
• Eating very spicy things will let Light breath fire, while also running around wildly looking for water.
• If stuck in hostile environments for long periods, Light will adapt to the environment and be able to function in it like normal.
• For some reason, her eyeballs are far, far more durable than the rest of her body.
• Light can pick up enchanted/DNA objects that other people usually wouldn't be allowed to pick up. However she will not gain the benefit from said objects unless she herself would fit the criteria for the enchantment/lock.
• Light can parkour on walls for extended periods before falling.
• Light has full control over her body pieces if she is chopped up. Sometimes she will form into tiny versions of herself is she is smashed or shattered, reforming after a bit of time running around.
• Light herself is extremely resistant to other forms of reality changing attacks.
• Its very obvious to those around her when Light is dizzy, confused, knocked out, stunned, has an idea, ext.. due to various things appearing over her head depending on the state.
• Things get confusing if Light is chased into a hallway with many doors...
• If chasing something that is taking off from the ground, Light can step on the air for a time in order to chase them, but will eventually fall.
• Light can additionally stall an impending fall by flapping or flailing her arms for a few seconds.
• Can dress up in a disguise to fool the weak minded.
• You REALLY don't wanna eat her unless you want her walking around inside your head freely.
• A Shadow of Impending Doom appears below Light when an object is falling on her.
• Light leaves an imprint of herself if she impacts the ground from a high height. Ditto if she runs through a wall.
• Entering alternate dimensions or worlds that have something similar to what Light can do will often have Light take on that appearance. Or if a dimension calls for a certain kind of thing, IE its all underwater life or all anthropomorphic animals or something.
• Among other nuances I might have forgotten.

Toon Strength: Light can exhibit enormous strength for her small frame. This strength is tied to her emotions, and if shes sad, she loses a massive amount of strength.

Toon Speed: Light exhibits short bursts of speed, using it to either dodge attacks or run at decent speeds. While she can dodge bullets with no problems with this, actual running speed Light is notably faster, but not anywhere near speedster territory (not that much faster than a top speed car). She can only dodge a few attacks every so often, and only if shes aware of the attacks. Outside of this, Light isn't very fast at all.

ACME Magic Satchel: Light can store and pull various objects from her dress. Stored objects are placed in an 'inventory' of sorts (Limit 5) and she can call upon them at will by pulling them out of her dress. She can additonally pull objects from her dress without storing them first. These items are adorned with an ACME logo and are completely random, are often cartoony or have a horrendous backfire effect, and as the name suggests, usually (But not always) explode in her face if held too long, even non lethal things such as pies! Storing a random object doesn't allow her to call it at will, and she can only pull a few random objects every 10 minutes, the cooldown reduced by her putting back said random objects. Light can't store living objects.

Portable Hole: Light can pull a black circular hole from her dress, allowing her to teleport to anywhere within her sightlines upon placing and entering it. The entrance and exit holes can be placed on anything, including air or space, but there is a noticable delay of her coming out of the exit hole if its not located on a surface. Only Light and objects stored in her Magic Satchel can go inside her holes.

Toon Touch: Being a toon, Light reacts to normal reality strangely and tends to bring things to her state of reality. When touching something, it is unable to receive energy from outside sources. This gives her touch some sort slight of a 'creepy' feeling. Additionally if shes in constant contact with something for extremely extended periods it will start to go through the stages of turning into a toon with no beneficial powers, and eventually fade from reality altogether (A massive amount of time. Probably a few weeks.), maybe going to a different dimension entirely? If Light stops touching the object at any point, it will regain its energy at its normal rate and basically reset their reality back to normal after a very short amount of time if it didn't disappear. Until its reality is restored, it can't gain energy from outside sources. This power is always on and Light has no control over its intensity.

Weaknesses:

• Light takes extra damage from attacks due to her cartoon physics.
• Light is weak to gas, poison, ext type attacks, and it doesn't take much of a substance to have an effect on her.
• Light has an exceptionally difficult time breaking herself free of anything that binds her movement. Being encased in ice, tied down, stuck in a net, ext...
• TDLR: Light is very easy to incapacitate for a time
• A vast majority of her toon powers are tied to her emotional state, and most of them don't work well if she is feeling sad or depressed.
• Light plays with her opponents instead of fights them seriously unless they make her extremely angry. If she is annoyed with someone she'll start showing Genre Savvy type of playful fighting however.
• Light is very gullible due to her silly/playful/lazy persona, especially if she doesn't know or think poorly of someone. Shes not easy to directly turn on her friends though. She is also easy to talk down from a fight unless she is really angry.
• Light often tries to be friends with her opponents if she thinks she can.
• Light is unable to use Energy based weapons due to Cartoon physics, and ballistic based weapons have less power and speed if used by her. Bombs still have their full power, but a drastically reduced blast radius.
• Light is very easily distracted by music or other fun things unless she is really angry.
• Objects falling tend to home in slightly on Light, showing their Shadows of Impending Doom under her. Likewise occasionally Light will be hit by a falling anvil, safe, or piano out of nowhere. It probably came from a plane, probably.
• Light is on the wrong end of the luck spectrum, and often is seen as having 'bad luck' that only affects her, especially if its bad luck that leads to slapstick.

Alignment: Hero (gullible)

Personality: Fun Loving, Playful, Lax, Intelligent, Honest.

Appearance: Appearance: Light is a 1.6 meter tall pure white humanoid figure. Her head is a large spherical shape with no nose, very large black and orange eyes, short blue hair, fin like ears, and a very very skinny neck. She has a noticeable hourglass shape to her due to her hips and chest. She has skinny biceps with large forearms and hands with pointed fingers. She wears a white dress with blue trim and a blue tanktop, the dress having an 'M' cut pattern in the front to reveal her legs, which look normal besides the bottom leg ending at a sharp point where her foot would be.

BRIEF Bio: Its not know where Light came from, but shes obviously not from this world! Although appearing in a world of superheroes was probably for the best, as she could pass herself off as some sort of mutant or alien or something and her toon-like powers weren't too outrageous. Learning this and the dynamic of the world she found herself in (As well as watching a bit too much television), Light made her way to be a hero. After all, when your on the right side of the law, your given quite a lot of freedom. Plus being able to do pretty much any non lethal thing to a baddie is pretty fun too, after all, they all need hugs! Even if those hugs sometimes break bones! Or playing wrestler, thats fun too!

Storylines: Dimensional travel, The Void, Eldridge Abominations, Toon World, but mostly shes just there for the ride.

Notes: Light is great for slapstick routines. Use her for them if you want!

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yeah @The Kid Lantern I'mma have to play Light or I'll prob lose interest eventually.

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Hm, not sure how long I could play that robot thingy since I'm not so attached to it if this is supposed to be a huge world sorta deal.