Archmage MC

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So hows everyone doing? really dislike a few of the trolls on this forum. >.<

The City of Gems

I'm here but not sure what to post/if I should post.

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@Mr Allen J I only seem to do that when you, rin and Vita are in the topic as well. Theres something going on here beyond this topic and we really should resolve this issue. We all seem to just hate each other it feels like even when we are basically all on the same page, so we should sort that bit out so this crap doesn't keep happening.

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@Zero Hex I really think the problem is that even if I agree with them, VitaVitaAR, J and Rin will find something to complain about what I'm doing anyway. Kinda why this argument has gone on for so long.

You give very good arguments and don't try to keep the argument going when I agree with you.

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Where does the OP say that it's all those shows in one?

The main starting picture. Referencing Hunter x Hunter/Naruto, ext... I understand no DBZ, thats its own special thing.

@VitaVitaAR

Why are we arguing when we're both agreeing on the same thing? My argument is why is this super restrictive for a shonen RP that invokes the ideas of the shonen anime that have massive variety?

@Rin

Basically tring to figure out why the GM is invoking these big names, but instead is being super restrictive instead of embracing these universes.

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@VitaVitaAR I'm not saying stuff like that should happen. But having it so watered down that you drastically limit variety for the sake of 'balance' between all the PCs seems silly. (besides, someone with a super strong barrier as their only ability makes perfect sense. One Piece has such a character and they still make it work well. Yeah you need to balance that exact ability, but its super easy to do considering how those rules are set)

But remove that whole "this is One Piece/Naruto/Bleach/ext... all in one" concept which is not what the OP is going for at this rate, and choose something more tame like what @Zero Hex said and pretty much all my issues with this go away.

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@VitaVitaAR Well, if thats the case, then why is the GM so worried about character diversity being a balance issue? Only GMs who want people to die consistently worry about such things. Otherwise you do what your saying, kill them off if you need to, but its a story death like how death SHOULD be in a story medium such as this.

Let people make who they want in this universe without watering it down. (Or just don't call it a shonen anime OR list a more tame one instead of showing all the big 'over the top' ones in the title.) With rules of course, but not such restricting ones that make Captain Planet look more interesting.

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Jesus, why does this have to be a debate thread on what truly makes something Shonen?

@Mercurial

Mostly because the OP lured tons of people in here with the idea of a shonen anime, then backpeddled as the IC blew up. I'm fine with him changing the title to something else, but atm this isn't shonen.

@VitaVitaAR

If death wasn't the main point of PvP battles according to how the GM wants to balance things, then we wouldn't be having this dicussion.

That One Punch Man RP that was here a little while ago didn't modify the source material at all and lasted a long time and was super active.

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@tipssyCalibrator@Mr Allen J I still don't think you get the problem. Remove the shonen tag, and you guys are right. But WITH the shonen tag there are very very big problems you need to address or its not a shonen property.

1. Over the topness has to be there. No mild stuff, everything has to be super awesome or fodder for the awesome characters..

2. Choose how you want PvP to be handled as thats the problem here. PvE is the easiest thing in the world to balance around as its the GM vs everyone, and the GM/DM has the most power out of everyone anyway and makes the PvE villains to make the story engaging and fun for everyone.

3. Everyone will be wanting to play the main character. This means that there def wont be any Gokus or Supermans running around when it comes to all in one, but if that means you have to sacrifice stuff that would let someone separate themselves from everyone else, and instead everyone is a copy of everyone else except one punches with lightning and the other with fire, things feel same-y and thats the exact opposite of what most shonen does anyway. (And is a huge no-no for most RPs with a 'diverse' world view anyway imo.)

4. If you want death to be meaningful, then just take the One Piece route like I said and have it only happen if you need it to. Its still on the table, but you can also have awesome over the top and fun battles with it. Luffy hasn't killed a single person in One Piece yet, and you know hes beaten the crap out of lots of them. Other shonen animes where death means something, like I've said, are about the main character who doesn't die but only gets injured. And if everyone is going to be this 'main character' in this RP, you really need to think about how this system works.

Sentai has to actually follow a few of the laws of physics due to it using real people.

With shonen it's optional.

@Silvan Haven

This guy knows exactly what I mean.

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What I really want is something that's a good medium. Something that's mostly fun and bombastic, but not so much that it can get dumb. If I ever implied that I wanted something other than that, then I apologize for misleading you. This is why I'm willing to bend on the item creation somewhat

@tipssyCalibrator

If you don't want over the top and want something more mild instead of spice, then you might not wanna mention shonen. Sounds like your wanting something more like Super Sentai, where things aren't as over the top and follow a theme, even if the story itself can be very nonsensical.

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I don't really like that idea for the same reason I don't like it in those stories, it makes death meaningless and feel like there's barely any stakes

To be fair, death means almost nothing in most shonen animes, even the serious ones. Someone is going to be brought back by alchemy, or by dragonballs, or the like. And your probably going to need a system like this in place if you want a large character RP in shonen, as everyone will want to be the 'main character', and in shonen ones where death means something, the main character never dies or dies at the very end. And that sort of storytelling doesn't work when there will be 10+ main characters running around.

Or go the One Peace route and people are ultra durable and hardly ever die. No matter how bad the situation is. And only save death for a device where you need to progress the story.

Either way, if you want to tone down shonen, I'd recommend picking Super Sentai instead.