DarkwolfX37

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When you've read through every page of your book, have read every other holy text of every other religion, when you've compared each book of the bible with each of the others, when you've compared each book of your version of the bible with it's equivalent in three other versions, when you've compared each book with itself in the Torah and itself in the Quran, and when you've stopped deny the whole of each branch of science, THEN you have the right to claim that I'm wrong. Because until then, what you're doing is no different than a lion telling a mouse it's wrong for not having a mane.

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LegendBegins said
Or maybe because you're fooled. Because you're deceived. Because you're wrong.

Fooled by who? Deceived by the devil? Wrong because you don't agree?
I can't be fooled by myself. I can't be deceived by a talking invisible rock that exists in a different galaxy. I can't be wrong if nobody's right.

You're being fooled by israelites. You're being deceived by your priest. You're wrong because you're one of a huge number of sects.
You were never in contact with one. They believe every word. You can't be wrong when nobody's right.

Pick your fav.

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Heroic said
My own beliefs and personality determine this. I am the child of my parents, and will always be. But everyone becomes an adult at some point, and they must learn to live on their own. That is not only my own belief, but my father's as well. One does not determine when they are ready themselves, that is something that comes with time.

Recognizing that in itself qualifies you as one.
If that's the case then there have been very few adults to ever live on this planet.

Pick your favorite.

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LegendBegins said
I chose knowledge over ignorance, but I am still joyful. You, however, choose the life you lead. And that is why your interpretation of the Bible will always be wrong.

It's more that I interpret it more literally than you do despite you being a literalist. Or it might be that I actually acknowledge the contradictions. Or maybe it's because I don't deny the reality around me when it goes against a book. Or maybe it's because I'm actually skeptical instead of blindly believing it and trying to cut other things into the shapes that fit the holes in the book. Or perhaps it's because I actually do care for science and philosophy instead of claiming to while at the same time fighting against them.
There's a lot of reasons why my interpretation is wrong in the eyes of followers. Generally because I stand in their massive blind spot.

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Heroic said
I intend to maintain full contact, visit for family dinners, and eventually return to my roots and move back to this little old town just to be here. They won't change their beliefs on how to parent me, but once I hit college, my decisions are my decisions. They cannot control my life once I hit that point, and I am free to do as I please. Though if they try to help me, I will respect their advice, interpret it myself, and that's it.

So what changes when you do that that isn't the case already? Is it legality? The ability to fight back? The thought that you'll be able to sustain yourself?

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Hehe, one syllable over the limit on each line or it'd be a haiku.

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LegendBegins said
You can't murder an animal. Seriously. A murder has no justice to it.

Justice doesn't exist.
There is no justice in hunting.
Humans are animals.
Etc.

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LegendBegins said
And I find it ironic that throughout everything, we seem happy, and despite all the rebellion you set forth, you never seem to be.

"Ignorance is bliss"
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief." - Ecclesiastes 1:18
"17 And I set my mind to know wisdom and to know madness and folly; I realized that this also is striving after wind. 18 Because in much wisdom there is much grief, and increasing knowledge results in increasing pain." - Ecclesiastes 1:17-18
"Which would you choose? Would you rather live a happy, blissful life, completely ignorant to what's going on in the world and the truth about many things? Or, would you rather have a complete understanding of what's really going on, but face much hardship and depression because of it?

~

Personally, I would never choose ignorance over knowledge, even if it meant possibly being unhappier because of it. My entire life, even since when I was a very young, small child, I've always questioned things that cannot be explained. I've always been curious about the things that we don't know about, things that are controversial, things that some people on this planet do already know the truth about. I used to naively think when I was very little that when we die, we gain all this knowledge. Then, one day, another kid told me that if we have all the knowledge in the universe when we die, then we would be God, and only God has all the knowledge. Of course, this was back before I had formed my own beliefs which I have today. Now, not being a religious person, I know full well that I will never gain this knowledge that I crave.

To me, understanding things and knowing things and having an awareness about the world is a great insight that cannot be matched. Knowledge is everything. It is a power, a treasure, and one thing that we have to achieve in this world, in the ultimate grand scheme. " - Tryne

Etcetera.

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Heroic said
My life will not be miserable, I can guarantee you that. The only real thing that I dislike about my young life will be done and over with in a couple years. On top of that, I have very big plans for my career, hobby, life in general, and so on. My life will not be ruined because of a couple more years of coping.

I was referring to the next two years. And let me ask you, what do you intend your relationship with your parents to be after that? Do you truly think that they'll change their beliefs and ideas of how to parent you just because you're a few years older? The only thing that'll change is the conduit, unless you plan to cut off all contact, in which case why wait?

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LegendBegins said
No. I'm saying that it wasn't evil. Killing isn't evil, but murder is. It must be justified, such as in battle or self defense. We've been over this countless times. Um... No it doesn't? It says to obey them, and it says to respect them as well. Although swearing really isn't necessary.

David. Seriously. A murder is a predetermined killing. God murdered millions with the flood alone. When you go hunting, you're murdering your prey. This is not something you can dance your way around by separating terms. Either god killing was a necessary evil, or it was simply evil. There is no third option. You don't get to say that the holocaust wasn't evil just because Hitler was a Catholic or because the Nazis thought they were in the right. You don't get to say that the murders of Taliban aren't evil just because it's purpose is to prevent evil.