Dedonus

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@Dedonus do you come here just to tell us all how much better CaH is?

@Sep

Just playing devil's advocate (and using the most successful Hype-styled game in that argument).

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Which is why limiting the convoluted nature of some characters that were created simply for the sake of convolution lessens the impact such departures would have.

@Retired

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That's true, but the stronger the concept and the more reliable the player, the more this weakness is mitigated. A paper airplane is inevitably going to land on the ground, but one that's well-folded and uses good materials is going to stay in the air longer than one that's crumpled together and full of holes.

@AndyC

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This is true of all games that have ever or will ever exist. All games end. All games eventually give way beneath the weight of continuity they've built up, player fatigue, or people simply "ageing out" of roleplaying. That's not a reason to not do them. It's a reason to make the most of them while they're around, tell the stories you want to tell while you can, and maybe – just maybe – have a little bit of fun and make some friends doing it.

@Morden Man

But it is even worse in "fandom" games, like this game.

For example, in these Marvel or DC or One Universe games, players have to apply for canonical characters. When a player disappears, it is not just some random person's OC who can easily be replaced, but rather a specific character, like Captain America, Nightwing, etc. If a new player applies for a character that someone else has abandoned, the new player has to either conform to what is already in the IC or retcon it (which will affect other characters' histories). Furthermore, in team settings, you also have to deal with characters dropping out.

In contrast, in Create-A-Hero, let's say someone applies for a character, gets said character accepted, posts for a little bit, and then leaves for one reason or another. In most cases, that so-called abandoned character can be easily written out of the game. The difference is that someone's abandoned character does not affect future applications unless that said character had made such an impact that it changed the landscape of the game. But in most cases, players who usually drop in a short period of time don't have that much impact on the game. Teams still have issues with players dropping, but Create-A-Hero does not have to worry about the Avengers needing Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Captain America, or the JLA needing Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman.

So, yes. It is true for all games. But it is even worse for these types of Fandom games.

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Sure, going "ooh, look, Character (x) is in Setting (y) now!" is interesting for a post or two, but the overwhelming majority of times I've seen this done, a post or two is all we get, and then when the player inevitably abandons them, we're either left with characters that nobody wants to use because that incarnation is unrecognizable, or a big gaping wound in continuity that players have to retcon around.

@AndyC

Honestly, this is a general weakness of these Hype games that are based on Marvel and/or DC lore. It is not the question of if people will drop from the game, but when. This is a generality of all roleplays, even the successful ones. No matter whether it is a mishmash or a twist on the single character, the game will have to deal with inactive characters, whether by having a player pick up someone else' creation (which I honestly have not seen done) or retcon the last version to allow a new one.

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I enjoy the “alternative goil doing alternative things” approach, I guess?

@Inkarnate

That's one of my biggest gripes with Spider-Gwen. Everyone is basically their character in name only. Obviously Gwen needed to be revamped because she had no personality (other than: "That darn Peter Parker! He did not notice me! I'm going to try to date him now!), but everyone is so different that they might as well have made them all original characters instead. It would not have changed the story one bit (with the exceptions of maybe Daredevil and the Punisher).

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I call it like I see it, bro. She has never interested me as a character in really anything I've ever read barring maybe some of the later Ultimate issues and Spider-Gwen.

@Inkarnate

MJ is a one-dimensional diva in most of the Spider-Gwen comics. How can she be interesting at all?

Create-A-Hero: A Superhero RPG Season 2- New Horizons (Closed)

Christopher Arthur III

After a team of heroes, lead by Icon, had been assembled to take out the satellite that was currently charging up to unleash a deadly beam against Lost Haven, Chris then turned to the next task on hand: locating the Hound’s main base and shutting down their operation. According to the readings that the Archangel armor had retrieved from the satellite, Chris had pinpointed that the Hound’s stronghold, or at least where the person who flipped the switch to activate the satellite’s ‘death beam’ was located, on the waterfront of Carver, a suburb of Lost Haven.

However, before Chris could address the other heroes, he received a call from Maya from within the Sherman Center.

“I think there’s a problem,” Maya alerted Chris with a concerned voice. “The armor isn’t disconnecting from the computer.”

“Let me check the error log,” Chris responded while he pulled up the relevant code in his helmet interface. After Chris skimmed through the code, he believed he had found the hitch. The armor was preventing the satellite from firing, even if the timer had expired. However, if the armor would terminate its connection, the satellite would fire immediately.

“Everything will be fine,” Chris tried to reassure his girlfriend. Although he believed that the safeguards that he had installed into the technology that had somehow trapped Maya in the Archangel technology would make sure no harm would come to Maya, he was still worried. He had not had the time to properly test what would happen if the suit would short circuit. In fact, he was not even prepared to start actual testing the technology. It was only a proto-type. It was not meant for an actual live field test yet.

“Once we have stomped these Hounds, I will personally get you out of that tin can.”

Chris then turned his attention back to the scene at Sherman Square. Now that the Hounds were turning to their final gambit, the Hounds in Sherman Square were all but broken. The heroes’ job here was all but done. Although they could go after all the Hound goons, but when you have the opportunity to the head off the terrorist organization, the small fry could be left to the police. Chris had to somehow rally the rest of the heroes from the chaotic aftermath of the attack on Sherman Square and lead them to the Hound’s base.

“Everyone, who is not going with Icon, should lick your wounds and get ready to head out. You all are going to have to be on you’re A-game if you want to get out of assault the Hound’s main base in one piece.”

Out of the corner of his eye, Chris noticed that the girl who was using a bow, Fletch if he recalled her hero handle correctly, had swooped down and pulled one of the other heroes who had shown up at Sherman Square before the attack started. He did not get a good look at who it was, nor what that person’s condition was, but he hoped that Fletch had this handled. He knew they had to be quick, else the brain trust of the Hounds would be long gone before the heroes could even knock on their front door.

“If my readings are correct, the Hounds have a base located on the waterfront of the nearby suburb, Carver. If someone here can’t fly or have some other form of transportation, you should pair up with someone who can. We need to strike quickly or all of this will be for not.”

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I looked at it once about seven years ago, maybe, saw it seemed to center around a sentient, space raptor emperor ruling a galactic kingdom while also being a superhero, then decided to look elsewhere.

@Retired

It has been a few years since I skimmed through the IC of the pre-Guildfall Create-A-Hero RPG, but I don't think that space raptor ever got far.

Create-A-Hero: A Superhero RPG Season 2- New Horizons (Closed)

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By Athanatoi he means the Greek Gods. Which is a word I've not seen used to describe them. Though to be fair until this RP my only reference on them was Hercules from Disney.

@VATROU

He uses Athanatoi in his app, Vat. I think he knows what it means. And Athanatoi is used all over in Greek mythology in the original language.

Create-A-Hero: A Superhero RPG Season 2- New Horizons (Closed)

Character you have created: David West

Alias: Noir

Speech Color: Dark Grey/Black if available

@Crooked Knight

Please send me a PM here on RPG or join our discord server so we can hash out the details about the Athanatoi.

Also, I would recommend not using black as speech text color. I would reckon that color would be difficult to read.

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I hate to ask this, but after careful review of this application by me and my fellow GMs, we're going to have to request either an updated premise to justify The Insect Queen aspect of this submission or an entirely different concept for Janet.

Problem being, after recent discussions in this very thread about what constitutes the acceptable level of change and non-change to concepts in the game, the addition of The Insect Queen mantle to this version of Janet seems superfluous. And while that wouldn't normally be a big deal, given there's not a huge demand for Janet or The Insect Queen by other players in the game, we're trying not to set a precedent for future concepts to be simple amalgamations.

With Sep's Flash, for instance, he made the character under the mask an entirely different person that would normally not be considered the main Flash. With Andy's Superman and my Batman, we made changes to Clark and Bruce's overall personalities as young and brash heroes to compensate for not changing up the premise around them. Inkarnate and HenryJonesJr took pre-existing 'alternate' versions of heroes and canonized them as the main versions. Lord Wraith killed Thor off and had him reincarnated. These are all extreme changes that made for an overall different flavor with these characters, which is what the game is going for.

By contrast, giving Janet the Bio-Genetic ring really doesn't make the same statement. So we're not entirely sure if this qualifies. We discussed it for awhile and came to the conclusion that if we're going to accept this as-is, we'd have no baseline for what an ultimization is.

@Master Bruce

Honestly, I'm not sure what you guys want from me. First my Spider-Man was too vanilla and now this.

[a] character (Janet van Dyne) under the mask [who is] an entirely different person that would normally not be considered the main Insect Queen

Changes to Janets's premise (use supernatural item instead of technological/scientific) to compensate for not changing up her overall personality (the inverse of what you said, but should still hold true)

took pre-existing 'alternate' versions of hero - I even had an image of an alternate Wasp that's a insect-human hybrid

If this premise still doesn't work, even though it 'passes' the criteria you gave as examples, then I'm not sure what I can else I can say.

The only other obvious candidates for this mantle are Mary Jane Watson and Lana Lang, but both have issues. MJ is a Spidey character and Henry seems to already have plans for her. Andy's Superman app (at least the last time I checked) did not have Lana Lang in it, but even if he does relinquish her, we would have to divvy up supporting characters or I would have to look for obscure minor characters that no one would care about.