Dinh AaronMk

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Also, I'm going to double post and call back to the comment made earlier about how people can't take a joke. There's actually a scientific theory about that. The benign violation theory states that in order for a joke to be considered funny it has to violate a perceived norm while being benign in nature. But when a joke actively or is told in a threatening way to an individual and it violates the benign aspect of the joke, then it becomes threatening.

There's a correlation with the punch up/kick down rule too. Commonly, jokes that attack upwards (against political leaders, business executives, celebrities, etc.) are considered OK because the people they attack are considered out of harms way or can recover from the criticism. Where-as kicking down in considered in poor taste because it already damages people who aren't in any shape to take it.

You could translate this into the complained scenario earlier that people can't take a joke because the joke is a fundamentally racist one into this: it's in poor taste for a white person to tell a joke about black people to a black person because it's a kickdown in most cases on the basis that blacks in the US have historically had the shit-end of the stick like Native Americans. They's so far down on the ladder that it's just evil to kick them down when the other group is so high up.

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That was always true too though. I'm not going to say people aren't stupid or overreaction about shit, I just think they more or less always have been that way. If anything we just hear about it more now, since we are plugged into this stuff pretty much constantly via the internet.

@Vilageidiotx

Let us not forget the generational rebellions of the past.

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What is the point of college if you don't get to light things on fire at least once, realistically. Politics in the twenty first century is a sport, and sports fans of all kinds need their riots.

@Vilageidiotx

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I think this gives me an excuse to post some video essays on comedy in film.

@Dinh AaronMk

Oh, forgot one:

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It is true that hollywood comedy isn't impressive, but i think that's more a lack of talented directors like used to exist way way back

@Vilageidiotx

I think this gives me an excuse to post some video essays on comedy in film.

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

The fun thing about JonTron is that I guess he's supposedly part Iranian. Like his father or grandfather or something came from Iran, but not only that was a major force in Iranian nationalist politics pre-Islamic Revolution. So it's almost ironic he's obsessing over white-nationalism where if the people really into it dug into his background they'd get into ground where they could call him part of the "problem" per the "extermination" of the white race.

But really, X-identity politics is pretty shit, nationalism anything needs to be pushed aside. It's good to be proud, but don't drag it out to beat the war drum.

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@Fabricant451@DepressedSoviet@Dinh AaronMk@Vilageidiotx

my next rant thread will be about JonTron and all the racist shit he said, you guys will eat that thread up.

@Dynamo Frokane

I already got the battle theme lined up.



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@Vilageidiotx@Dinh AaronMk can you take your Maoist circlejerk somewhere else please you commie bastards.

This is a thread about

SERIUS VIDEOGAMES BIZNESS

@Dynamo Frokane

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what room some ron paul fucboi got to talk shit? right libertarianism is that phase american highschool boys go through when they are trying to convince themselves it is super easy to succeed and they won't have to really work at it that hard, since everyone complaining is just nonsensically lazy.

@Vilageidiotx

Fuck if I know, but this guy built up his credentials among the chat for posting articles deriding immigration and Muslims and every-time a defense is raised he talks about Dearborn like it matters. Like, what the Hell does Dearborn have to do with anything? I can still go get drunk there and no one would give a shit, there's just more mosques than churches now.

That and he talks about stock-market forces and the ups and downs of the market so he sounds like the internet chat-room equivalent of a Fox Money or CNN Money analyst. So don't you ever dear say the system is fucked because you're threatening the stock portfolio he may or may not have! DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH THE HEDGE FUND HE'LL USE TO BUY A CONDO HE'LL RENT OUT TO PAY OFF HIS STUDENT DEBT.



On an unrelated note I accidentally pressed the key to print out this page on the thread and the image of having an entire long dissection of capitalism from the far-left printing out in a room presently dominated by the classic mid-century Republican came to mind.

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Mainstream media in a market-based system becomes diluted by pandering pretty much always, so long as it is truly mainstream. And in every one of those cases, niche markets rise up parallel to the mainstream, sometimes producing art, sometimes just pandering to a more specific demographic. Video Games are at that point now, with small developers getting way more attention then they did ten years ago. I think Minecraft started that trend.

@Vilageidiotx

See: Meet and Fuck. Or all those other anime dating sims.

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To that guy's question: a person can have a job and be a leftist. I have a full time job, that pays well and doesn't give me shit, and I'm perfectly content with it. Doesn't mean I have to pay homage to capitalism in some religious way. My leftism comes from a complete lack of faith in capitalism's permanence going forward. I think people have fallen for this bizarre black-and-white fantasy that, because Leninist Communism collapsed, capitalism is now the permanent system of human civilization for all time and always. If you even spent a moment thinking about alternatives, you are a heretic. And that is alarming. If you make something sacred, even necessary criticism becomes a heresy. If I thought that I'd have my current quality of life for the rest of my life (barring biological impediments), and that everyone else would be slowly raised up to the same level, then yeh, I'd be a political centrist. But from what I've read and seen, I think we are running headlong into peak-capitalism, when my life and the lives of most everyone else starts getting worse.

Some art is produced by working folk. You do get stories like the conditions in which Steven King wrote Carrie. But it is generally true, and not even a controversial idea really, that part of the function of the working class is to make a class of people who experience and create culture possible. Shit, the idea was pretty much mainstream until the 19th century. I'd even bet that similar things are whispered in garden parties by our own rich and famous today, even if it is less fashionable in a democracy to admit it.

@Vilageidiotx

I actually had to leave a Discord chat recently because I had gotten a quick reputation of deriding capitalism which made everyone no longer take me seriously. In one particular major point I found myself arguing with three or four people in the debate section who were trying to defend the capitalist system as being the most purest and moderate centralism is the best option, where I was arguing from an albeit amorphous left-lib, AnarcoCom, even straight-communist perspective. I think I told you about it before when they were using undefined "human nature" and "shit's too hard" as counter-arguments.

In any case, it got to the point they weren't taking the argument seriously and were strawmanning and taking it all as such a hilarious heresy I had to cut things. Later someone was telling big-daddy Right-Lib when he returned about "the anarchist" who was just there and he made comments about how "special" those sorts of people are.

So there's a sort of cultural antipathy I guess you could say, and I say this because as it turns out these people were either college freshmen or high schoolers so they've not yet learned what it's like to bleed for pay or really plan things out because mommy's money's got them. But it kind of reinforces for me this anti-intellectual notion from self-described moderates using intellectual fallacy has convinced itself centrism is best and the current system is OK, which is starting to sound more like a new conservatism.

And then I got tired of them because even in casual chat they believed going "boop" was the height of conversational quality.

But per what I mentioned earlier, I really wish I could find that post. It was posted as a screenshot, but I can't help but feel I fucked up the retelling. Oh well.

"So, Aaron...

@Vilageidiotx

Well, ass-slapping is ideology.