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Call me Doc. I'm open to just about every form of roleplay at any time, so if you want to have some fun just toss a P.M my way.
I do prefer RM, URM, or low tier fights, with human or peak human hand-to-hand and swords & sandals being my speciality.
Challenge me to a match just any old time!
Arena Characters: http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/87852-docs-characters-no-posting/ooc#post-3105991
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@BloodyRed
From my perspective I had a few ways to handle that situation, but in this case we're compromising and leaving the logistics for next time, right? I'd rather compromise on the damage, since it's a step above the blind luck of a dice roll.
Hold my beer, I got another idea...
A fractured reeb then!
From my perspective I had a few ways to handle that situation, but in this case we're compromising and leaving the logistics for next time, right? I'd rather compromise on the damage, since it's a step above the blind luck of a dice roll.
Hold my beer, I got another idea...
A fractured reeb then!
@BloodyRed
Right... Well sure, why not. OOC is boring!
How about Kull gets bruised ribs, Red gets a sprained finger but manages to slip free before Kull starts doing jujutsu stuff, and they wind up side by side.
Right... Well sure, why not. OOC is boring!
How about Kull gets bruised ribs, Red gets a sprained finger but manages to slip free before Kull starts doing jujutsu stuff, and they wind up side by side.
@BloodyRed
I understand the position perfectly, that armlock is a popular one in Japanese wrestling. I really wish I knew exactly what to call it, might you know? Your above post also showed me what the primary issue likely is. In the first sentence of my last post Kull totally did bend his elbow before he was grabbed.
You also can't base the timing of my attack off of my description of Red's actions, as I already stated when it would occur. I did describe Red taking his half step, but that's just that, a description of what Red's doing. Kull began his counter as soon as he was grabbed. You also stated that Red slid his other foot into place to be parallel with Kull and pull him into the punch, far more bodily motion and commitment than the act of reaching to grab a finger.
It's rather unlikely that in the time it takes to turn a palm up, someone can take your flank and throw a punch practically fated to land. If that were the case, there wouldn't be a single fighter in the UFC who could avoid or deflect a jab. Independent from velocity, finding the shortest path of least resistance is a determining factor in these things.
The post states that Red was not throwing the punch as he stepped, though it does mention that he maintained his momentum, so it was undoubtedly a fluid counter. Still, to throw a punch with that force you need to have your feet grounded to power the blow, and Red wouldn't have finished getting into position by the time Kull counter-grabbed him as I see it. The distance Kull's right hand had to travel should be comparable to Red's, but the train that leaves the station first will also arrive at its destination first. Kull went for the thumb a few actions before Red threw his punch.
Regardless whether or not the punch actually lands, whether or not I have a practical answer for it has yet to be determined. It all depends. I deal out one move at a time so I don't get ahead of myself and write a lot of stuff that might get retconned by an early counter.
Speaking of which, Red never got to assume his stance. I interrupted that sequence of events with the nose crank, and as a result Red reacted with a counter before having begun the other actions he'd have performed in the ten seconds that never were. Just means he isn't in his stance.
I understand the position perfectly, that armlock is a popular one in Japanese wrestling. I really wish I knew exactly what to call it, might you know? Your above post also showed me what the primary issue likely is. In the first sentence of my last post Kull totally did bend his elbow before he was grabbed.
You also can't base the timing of my attack off of my description of Red's actions, as I already stated when it would occur. I did describe Red taking his half step, but that's just that, a description of what Red's doing. Kull began his counter as soon as he was grabbed. You also stated that Red slid his other foot into place to be parallel with Kull and pull him into the punch, far more bodily motion and commitment than the act of reaching to grab a finger.
It's rather unlikely that in the time it takes to turn a palm up, someone can take your flank and throw a punch practically fated to land. If that were the case, there wouldn't be a single fighter in the UFC who could avoid or deflect a jab. Independent from velocity, finding the shortest path of least resistance is a determining factor in these things.
The post states that Red was not throwing the punch as he stepped, though it does mention that he maintained his momentum, so it was undoubtedly a fluid counter. Still, to throw a punch with that force you need to have your feet grounded to power the blow, and Red wouldn't have finished getting into position by the time Kull counter-grabbed him as I see it. The distance Kull's right hand had to travel should be comparable to Red's, but the train that leaves the station first will also arrive at its destination first. Kull went for the thumb a few actions before Red threw his punch.
Regardless whether or not the punch actually lands, whether or not I have a practical answer for it has yet to be determined. It all depends. I deal out one move at a time so I don't get ahead of myself and write a lot of stuff that might get retconned by an early counter.
Speaking of which, Red never got to assume his stance. I interrupted that sequence of events with the nose crank, and as a result Red reacted with a counter before having begun the other actions he'd have performed in the ten seconds that never were. Just means he isn't in his stance.
@BloodyRed
I've compromised before, but I prefer to save it for when a sequence of events is unspecified. I'm a bit confused why you want to change my timing for the for the thumb snap. Kull began reaching for Red's thumb before he threw his punch. What's more, is not Red reaching across his body with his punch? I don't see why the punch is guaranteed to connect when Kull used a specific move to counter Red's technique earlier in the sequence of events, there's still factors that will need to be accounted for later. Recall that Kull was twisting his left forearm to make his thumb grab easier, and it'd serve also to deprive Red of most of his control over Kull's arm. Kull wouldn't misjudge the timing or distance for his technique any more than Red would misjudge his own. I suppose my point is that nothing is a sure shot right now, so until we see what becomes of the thumb grab we won't know what exactly follows. We should resolve everything in order.
But you do have the go ahead to post your counter. So long as it reasonably justifies the actions following it, I'll have no problem!
Here's a reference on finger snapping in general for self defence by the way.
P.S, I edited this post several times. Kept thinking of more stuff to say! Done now though.
I've compromised before, but I prefer to save it for when a sequence of events is unspecified. I'm a bit confused why you want to change my timing for the for the thumb snap. Kull began reaching for Red's thumb before he threw his punch. What's more, is not Red reaching across his body with his punch? I don't see why the punch is guaranteed to connect when Kull used a specific move to counter Red's technique earlier in the sequence of events, there's still factors that will need to be accounted for later. Recall that Kull was twisting his left forearm to make his thumb grab easier, and it'd serve also to deprive Red of most of his control over Kull's arm. Kull wouldn't misjudge the timing or distance for his technique any more than Red would misjudge his own. I suppose my point is that nothing is a sure shot right now, so until we see what becomes of the thumb grab we won't know what exactly follows. We should resolve everything in order.
But you do have the go ahead to post your counter. So long as it reasonably justifies the actions following it, I'll have no problem!
Here's a reference on finger snapping in general for self defence by the way.
P.S, I edited this post several times. Kept thinking of more stuff to say! Done now though.
@LeeRoy
The barbarian kept pace with Shin as he circled, like they were going for a walk, maintaining a few meters distance as he considered Shin's guard. Shin clearly wanted to avoid being knocked out early, and seemed eager to use his hands and claws to counter. As Gonad understood it, a stance or a guard is one thing, but an attack is another. Some moves just flow better from certain positions, is all.
He pointed at Shin with the hand nearest, crooking a grisly nail at him.
"Training of Shin Man must be great, tanned like the hide of the Sky Yak in the light of the Yakmother's solar teat, for never such a body has Gonad seen. Still, more than training alone has Shin Man endured, and more to endure is to come!"
Before those words made any clear sense, Gonad abruptly faced Shin and declared his attack.
"SUNNY G!"
A stream of pee arced over towards Shin's chest. Gonad probably didn't have a lot in him considering he'd been thirsty. What a golden blessing.
The barbarian kept pace with Shin as he circled, like they were going for a walk, maintaining a few meters distance as he considered Shin's guard. Shin clearly wanted to avoid being knocked out early, and seemed eager to use his hands and claws to counter. As Gonad understood it, a stance or a guard is one thing, but an attack is another. Some moves just flow better from certain positions, is all.
He pointed at Shin with the hand nearest, crooking a grisly nail at him.
"Training of Shin Man must be great, tanned like the hide of the Sky Yak in the light of the Yakmother's solar teat, for never such a body has Gonad seen. Still, more than training alone has Shin Man endured, and more to endure is to come!"
Before those words made any clear sense, Gonad abruptly faced Shin and declared his attack.
"SUNNY G!"
A stream of pee arced over towards Shin's chest. Gonad probably didn't have a lot in him considering he'd been thirsty. What a golden blessing.
@BloodyRed
Yeah, a similar rule may be found on this very Arena forum, in a link on the FAQs. Autohitting isn't an issue around here luckily.
I like deductive logic. If you can detail a reasonable depiction of a potential counter, and if you feel like it's a good one, go for it. I'm just wondering how the punch would occur reliably with the sequence of events as they're posted in relation to how you say they proceed now. Red would have to deal with the thumb grab before he slid his body parallel and launched the punch. Can Red counter the thumb grab and still move into position for a proper punch? That's what I wanna find out IC, nothing's ruined at all.
I apologize if I come off as rude or anything. I just kinda gotta flesh it out, perfectionist style, so everything is as clear as a Rocky Mountain river. Some things need to be clarified OOC and it's a bitch sometimes, oh yeah, but it's all a part of the process. The important thing is that we can communicate what occurs in the fight concisely and with supportive reasoning if we need to clarify details. Some people don't like me because I get tedious with that schtick.
By the way, how about any mma videos where a fighter gets dropped by a punch in the left armpit? The spleen doesn't count.
Yeah, a similar rule may be found on this very Arena forum, in a link on the FAQs. Autohitting isn't an issue around here luckily.
I like deductive logic. If you can detail a reasonable depiction of a potential counter, and if you feel like it's a good one, go for it. I'm just wondering how the punch would occur reliably with the sequence of events as they're posted in relation to how you say they proceed now. Red would have to deal with the thumb grab before he slid his body parallel and launched the punch. Can Red counter the thumb grab and still move into position for a proper punch? That's what I wanna find out IC, nothing's ruined at all.
I apologize if I come off as rude or anything. I just kinda gotta flesh it out, perfectionist style, so everything is as clear as a Rocky Mountain river. Some things need to be clarified OOC and it's a bitch sometimes, oh yeah, but it's all a part of the process. The important thing is that we can communicate what occurs in the fight concisely and with supportive reasoning if we need to clarify details. Some people don't like me because I get tedious with that schtick.
By the way, how about any mma videos where a fighter gets dropped by a punch in the left armpit? The spleen doesn't count.
@BloodyRed
Of course, of course, I do the same thing by describing the likely effects of certain techniques. It's just another way to maintain control in a fight. I had supposed you were referencing the above kind of heart disruption in the Wikia, as I'm unfamiliar with the one you've brought up. Could I perhaps trouble you for a piece of reference material, maybe an online martial arts article, medical journal, or something similar that supports the validity of the technique?
Also, I must stand by my statement that Kull's counter would occur before the punch, as the order of the actions as they occur is evident in the posts. The *KRIK* occured after the half-step, meaning Kull went for Red's thumb as soon as he was grabbed.
And so, yes, Red can indeed let go before he's grabbed, and avoid the *Krik* before he finishes his half step, but that'd be /before/ his punch connects, or before he can even pull Kull in close.
Of course, of course, I do the same thing by describing the likely effects of certain techniques. It's just another way to maintain control in a fight. I had supposed you were referencing the above kind of heart disruption in the Wikia, as I'm unfamiliar with the one you've brought up. Could I perhaps trouble you for a piece of reference material, maybe an online martial arts article, medical journal, or something similar that supports the validity of the technique?
Also, I must stand by my statement that Kull's counter would occur before the punch, as the order of the actions as they occur is evident in the posts. The *KRIK* occured after the half-step, meaning Kull went for Red's thumb as soon as he was grabbed.
And so, yes, Red can indeed let go before he's grabbed, and avoid the *Krik* before he finishes his half step, but that'd be /before/ his punch connects, or before he can even pull Kull in close.
@LeeRoy
He'd had already jogged halfway out of the courtyard by the time the Jade Emperor introduced Shin. Their words, their faces, their food. Gonad saw but he didn't see. He'd been on autopilot, going through the motions, traveling, training, with only his eight wives emotionally anchoring him to this world. These days everything seemed to pass by him in a bland haze of noise and light, behind which wafted fond memories of grand battles past. He'd heard something just then, however, that cut through the disconcerting fog of boredom he'd been living in.
>"A perfect match for you... The Man who will kill you!"<
Dusty gears began turning. He turned around, eyes big, wide, and brimming with innocent hope. He ignored the Jade Emperor, focusing only on Shin at that moment.
"I am Shin Zhou, born of China to the late Ming Dynasty. It is a pleasure to fight in the company of my people's Gods, and a pleasure to meet you despite your unfortunate circumstance."
Mirth radiated from Gonad's infectious grin, a giddy chortle escaping him and his single eye rolling up with joy. There was a swagger to his step as he made his way back into the courtyard, sending tables skidding recklessly out of the way with his feet to make room. He'd stop four meters from Shin, looking the little fella up and down, unable and unwilling to hide his delight. He glanced over at the Jade King beyond Shin, apparently 'seeing' him for the first time.
"Hrah... The Gods...?"
Gonad slowly turned a full circle, studying the setting in earnest. By the Sky Yak, he really was in the company of gods. They all shone with beauty and color, and they also stared at Gonad as if he were a goat with an extra head on its ass. Gonad's eyes shot open even wider.
"BWAH! Gonad has found a divine place, and the gods themselves grant Gonad the desire of Gonad's heart! Gonad has no choice but to accept this challenge! Gonad sees Shin Man. Gonad be Gonad Yaksplitter, from Village of Gonad! If this be duel honored by the gods, then Gonad will fight with the purity of birth, and no other way."
Every single last article of clothing and equipment fell to the floor in turn, and was kicked unceremoniously to the sidelines. The eyepatch, a necklace of animal teeth, large steel bracers, tassets, loincloth, big-ass boots... In less than a minute Gonad would proudly stand before Shin, before the palace, before the gods, buck naked and armed with nothing he hadn't emerged from the womb with. Before Gonad might have been likened to a bull, armed with hooves and horns and sheer mass. Now, however, he seemed to almost appear as a god himself, unburdened by the world and free to let his presence expand. He hid behind nothing, had nothing to hide, ready to leave the mortal world in the same way he'd entered. With simple nudity he'd become a singularity, complete within itself. Practical sense had nothing to do with it, and neither did divinity. The gods themselves might flinch before the spirit of a mortal.
He'd had already jogged halfway out of the courtyard by the time the Jade Emperor introduced Shin. Their words, their faces, their food. Gonad saw but he didn't see. He'd been on autopilot, going through the motions, traveling, training, with only his eight wives emotionally anchoring him to this world. These days everything seemed to pass by him in a bland haze of noise and light, behind which wafted fond memories of grand battles past. He'd heard something just then, however, that cut through the disconcerting fog of boredom he'd been living in.
>"A perfect match for you... The Man who will kill you!"<
Dusty gears began turning. He turned around, eyes big, wide, and brimming with innocent hope. He ignored the Jade Emperor, focusing only on Shin at that moment.
"I am Shin Zhou, born of China to the late Ming Dynasty. It is a pleasure to fight in the company of my people's Gods, and a pleasure to meet you despite your unfortunate circumstance."
Mirth radiated from Gonad's infectious grin, a giddy chortle escaping him and his single eye rolling up with joy. There was a swagger to his step as he made his way back into the courtyard, sending tables skidding recklessly out of the way with his feet to make room. He'd stop four meters from Shin, looking the little fella up and down, unable and unwilling to hide his delight. He glanced over at the Jade King beyond Shin, apparently 'seeing' him for the first time.
"Hrah... The Gods...?"
Gonad slowly turned a full circle, studying the setting in earnest. By the Sky Yak, he really was in the company of gods. They all shone with beauty and color, and they also stared at Gonad as if he were a goat with an extra head on its ass. Gonad's eyes shot open even wider.
"BWAH! Gonad has found a divine place, and the gods themselves grant Gonad the desire of Gonad's heart! Gonad has no choice but to accept this challenge! Gonad sees Shin Man. Gonad be Gonad Yaksplitter, from Village of Gonad! If this be duel honored by the gods, then Gonad will fight with the purity of birth, and no other way."
Every single last article of clothing and equipment fell to the floor in turn, and was kicked unceremoniously to the sidelines. The eyepatch, a necklace of animal teeth, large steel bracers, tassets, loincloth, big-ass boots... In less than a minute Gonad would proudly stand before Shin, before the palace, before the gods, buck naked and armed with nothing he hadn't emerged from the womb with. Before Gonad might have been likened to a bull, armed with hooves and horns and sheer mass. Now, however, he seemed to almost appear as a god himself, unburdened by the world and free to let his presence expand. He hid behind nothing, had nothing to hide, ready to leave the mortal world in the same way he'd entered. With simple nudity he'd become a singularity, complete within itself. Practical sense had nothing to do with it, and neither did divinity. The gods themselves might flinch before the spirit of a mortal.
@BloodyRed
Red can still throw his punch but note that the *KRIK* in my description, or the sound effect of Red's thumb being broken, occured after the half-step.
Studying your post, I see that Red takes the half-step and then slides parallel with Kull, using his momentum to pull Kull into the punch for added power after locking out his arm. Thus, taking that order into account, Kull's arm would ultimately not be locked out if he broke the thumb, and he'd not take the punch at full power if Red carried through anyways.
I'm not saying Kull won't get hit, but his move kinda interrupts Red's.
As for the heart stopper, here's a quote from the Wikia on that.
"...Impact occurring within a specific 10– to 30-millisecond portion of the cardiac cycle. This period occurs in the ascending phase of the T wave, when the ventricular myocardium is repolarizing, moving from systole to diastole (relaxation).
The small window of vulnerability explains why it is a rare event. Considering that the total cardiac cycle has a duration of 1 second (for a base cardiac frequency of 60 beats per minute), the probability of a mechanical trauma within the window of vulnerability is 1 to 3% only. That also explains why the heart becomes more vulnerable when it is physically strained by sports activities..."
Now it IS technically possible, but Red would have to be flat out superhuman to perform it at will, as he'd need the senses and utterly flawless timing to detect virtually everything about the state of his opponent's heart and attack at rhe right fraction of a millisecond. It's not really something any human in history has ever been able to do outside of a rare freak accident.
Red can still throw his punch but note that the *KRIK* in my description, or the sound effect of Red's thumb being broken, occured after the half-step.
Studying your post, I see that Red takes the half-step and then slides parallel with Kull, using his momentum to pull Kull into the punch for added power after locking out his arm. Thus, taking that order into account, Kull's arm would ultimately not be locked out if he broke the thumb, and he'd not take the punch at full power if Red carried through anyways.
I'm not saying Kull won't get hit, but his move kinda interrupts Red's.
As for the heart stopper, here's a quote from the Wikia on that.
"...Impact occurring within a specific 10– to 30-millisecond portion of the cardiac cycle. This period occurs in the ascending phase of the T wave, when the ventricular myocardium is repolarizing, moving from systole to diastole (relaxation).
The small window of vulnerability explains why it is a rare event. Considering that the total cardiac cycle has a duration of 1 second (for a base cardiac frequency of 60 beats per minute), the probability of a mechanical trauma within the window of vulnerability is 1 to 3% only. That also explains why the heart becomes more vulnerable when it is physically strained by sports activities..."
Now it IS technically possible, but Red would have to be flat out superhuman to perform it at will, as he'd need the senses and utterly flawless timing to detect virtually everything about the state of his opponent's heart and attack at rhe right fraction of a millisecond. It's not really something any human in history has ever been able to do outside of a rare freak accident.
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