Fabricant451

The Worst Writing Advice

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Subjective opinion and objective quality are two different things.

You are conflating the two by strawmanning my position.

And not to steal from Jim Sterling. But, There is no "perfect story". There are only "perfect stories". So my answer depends on what you're looking for, now doesn't it?

@SleepingSilence

I'm not strawmanning anything. You disagreed that there was an objective quality to story telling. You cannot provide any example of the objective best way to tell a story because it doesn't fucking exist because when discussing art - which writing absolutely is - objective criticism is meaningless. People need to stop trying to make 'objective' the new normal when discussing things. Objectively, your post from 28 minutes ago is structured poorly. Subjectively it's a quality post because it made me fucking cackle and shit myself.

The Worst Writing Advice

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What if...it's not for the critic's benefit. But meant to benefit the writer?

@SleepingSilence

Do you think a critic knows better than the person who made the thing they are criticizing. Generally. I'm sure there's some specific cases where William Shakespeare told Thomas Middleton "hey you should do this in iambic pentameter, trust me, everyone's gonna not give a shit about that in the future" but the point of critique isn't to tell the writer/director/whatever what you would do and why it would be better because it's what you would do. That's stroking the ego and it's really no different than people who watch a movie and go "Pfft, I could write a better movie than that!" and then they can't. There's a reason published critique doesn't have the critic going "I didn't like this book but if the author used more page space to talk about the food in detail I would've loved it and it would've been better because I'm George R. R. Martin and I know best."

The Worst Writing Advice

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Can writing be bad?

@SleepingSilence

Yes it can. But something I think is bad might be good to someone else. That's how this works. Now please answer the question.

The Worst Writing Advice

I think I remembered the worst writing advice I was ever given. There's no such thing as comma splicing so just use commas like you're throwing ones at a strip club.

The Worst Writing Advice

I fundamentally disagree. And that's just wrong.

@SleepingSilence

What is the objectively best story ever told or the objectively best way to tell a story?

The Worst Writing Advice

Also, "Laugh off your critics" is bad advice too.

@SleepingSilence

I dunno, sometimes critics can be fucking hilarious.

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