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@Xandrya Oh I see, no worries then.

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@Crimson PaladinIt just looks like a bad pun to me, sure mildly political. But it annoys me that people actually will whine and be hyper sensitive about stuff like that, regardless of side. I guess them purposefully tying it to real life events and the hysteria of everyone who disagrees with me equals nazi and fist. Misses the point, because in the real world it's a genuine problem.

But it's always been a video game, ABOUT killing -not- nazi's This is not shocking, nor worth raging about. <.<

@Dynamo Frokane There's always been kind of a "don't fuck with hillbillies" thing in movies, true usually thriller or horror movies, but it's elsewhere too. Or the texas/cowboy or corrupt big wig hick stereotype.

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But again, I say let them eat cake. If it's a good product. That's really all that should matter.

@SleepingSilence

I didnt say it didnt exist, I'm saying its minimal. There are about 7 examples each on both of those trope pages for video games, and most of those examples dont feature hicks/hillbillies as the 'main' enemies. Its a strawman that the Right were using saying there is some sort of double standard when it comes to video games, I could name a SHIT load more games where you kill communists or brown people for most of the game.

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The stuff of the nazis was quite long before Wolfenstein's point of divergence. Additionally, it adds nothing game-play wise and nothing story-wise either, providing falsehoods about nazi relations to Christianity. Though, I reckon shoehorning in falsehoods is no biggie to you.

@Andreyich

You're saying the same thing, a game with nazi cyborg dogs is representing nazi relations to christianity that aren't accurate to history. Do you know what an alternative fictional universe is or are you shoehorning in some blissful ignorance to make your 'point' stick better?

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@Dynamo Frokane

I'm a friend of Chelsea. You're the one in black, no?

@Xandrya

Dont know who chelsea is, but in the interest of privacy its probably best if you PM or discord me about who you know and from where.

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That's a really cool way to avoid the point.

@Andreyich

You were saying that wolfenstein was historically inaccurate, if you already know what kind of fantastical silly elements are in the series then it wasn't much of a point to begin with.

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But Far Cry putting their villain on their box was bitched about in 4 too and it was just as stupid then...Sure, it's generic to have 'evil rednecks' but if they can make good villains out of them, who the fuck cares.

@SleepingSilence

Its not even generic, maybe for horror movies but I cant think of many video games where you are plowing down hillbillies in the deep south.

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@Xandrya hahah theres quite a lot of middle in that picture but yeah I'm there! where have you seen my pic before?

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@SleepingSilence

Im genuinely confused what you are trying to state here, all 3 of those Jack Thompsons are different people, that second one is a british politician who died in 2011 and had nothing to do with video games. And that political donation jack thompson is clearly a different guy because the addresses don't add up.

Only the final link is jack thompson (i think) cause it mentions video games, and you can call it SJW but this guy was around long before that term was popularised and there are many MANY right wingers who are essentially social justice warriors when it comes to preserving their conservative values. The Jack Thompson I am talking about is very very right wing.

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@Dynamo Frokane I'm not saying you were. But the conversation was about Christians thinking everything under the sun was evil.

@SleepingSilence

What are you talking about? No one said that?

And the common thread of them, was they were apart of the older generation. Is my point. I would place doubt that it was actually political. Just zealots and fear mongers. Which existed on both sides even back then.

@SleepingSilence

In the time I'm referring to, yes they were old, yes they were religious and yes they were conservative. This is not controversial. And Jack Thompson was literally a Right Wing, Born Again Christian, Anti-Gay Attorney who made a career out of attacking GTA and blamed every tragedy all the way up until 2008 on video games. He was also heavily involved making testiominals to the florida bar, making false statements to tribunals, lobbying elected officials and constantly appearing on TV news shows to demonize video games, so yes I think it got pretty damn political.

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The problem comes in when people that never played games and never will, boycott things they'd never would've bought in the first place, or started to make comments about the people -playing- the games. When they had shit to do with their production...It's just disingenuous political activism.

@SleepingSilence

Yes I agree, when alt right shitheads say that there is a double standard that you can kill nazis in games but not communists, or that you will never be put in a situation where you kill non-white enemies. They are talking bollocks because they haven't played games.