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Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Well it was fun while it lasted, guess all the self described bad asses will have to stop verbally kicking ass for a little while :D

Anyone else want to weigh in on the Trap discussion?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane

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Now that I can respect, that you take personal issue with them and have drawn your own line. I certainly do not expect you to nod along, that was never a concern or issue, rather that I would not be somehow lumped into them for simply stating they are not all one in the same. So long as we can recognize the issue wasn't advocacy versus accuracy; I might not agree with these organizations, but political and character assassination is even worse when they have debatably done very little. They were made guilty by association, which I take issue with for myself.

That laid out in full, I would disagree one really "is" what they say or think they are without practicing what they preach, even if only to themselves in their own mind, but I would dare say that isn't so much a political discussion anymore.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

You've gotten me confused with someone else then, because I've been saying this from day 1, I even was the one who clarified the difference between a white nationalist and a white supremacist to sleeping silence. I understand extremist groups, gangs, and cults very very well and I always approach them with nuance.

Now you can search long and hard throughout my post history I have never once called you a racist, or Sleeping Silence a racist or even the guy with the 3 letter acronym who I'm choosing not to name a racist. I know what racism is, and I use the term very carefully.

But as far as James Allsup and Generation Identity both undeniably racist. Now I didn't say they were violent and I'm not even saying that they are necessarily going to achieve their goals. But they do have odius and somewhat problematic ideas and I will challenge them, in the same way i'd challenge any extremism.

No you can go on and on about how the media are masters of spin, and yes you are right to an extent, but I'm not the media, so when I choose to label someone a racist I'd rather not be compared to some media outlet I have nothing to do with ESPECIALLY when I have proof of my claims.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

And why do you think I've stopped trying to be civil like the previous year and half, or so. I'm very much engaging in the shit-show. And you can lob "now you're no better" comments all ya want. But ask me this, how many people do I have shit-talking me on a daily basis, knowing full well I won't even pretend to care, and verbally kick their ass right back? ;D (Answer: Less, much less.)

@SleepingSilence

You compared traps with cross dressers. Which everyone who knows it's a meme, isn't what it is. It's also bringing up the LGBTAAIP2(QRSTUV) in a discussion about Traps. (It's actually close to telling an agnostic that they can't talk about religion, or know which "religion of peace" throws gays off of buildings.)

@SleepingSilence

SEE you couldn't find the part where I mentioned 'transgender' because I never said it. Thanks for clarifying that you made that shit up.

And Traps literally are guys dressed up like girls (cross-dresser), how would you describe them?

I'm not, and you're correct I'm not. You talked to me only a half dozen times about this, for hours on end. So you'd think you'd of all people be able to distinguish the difference.

@SleepingSilence

Well its not quite that simple, the reason why I had to talk to you about it so often and for so long is because you still were categorizing race with things like 'skull shapes' and reading me 'race denier' questions from a neo-nazi website to play devils advocate, so hopefully now you know better.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Remember when I, or Odin (which for some reason you used to make your case.) Both stated politics rarely actually get discussed here and you whined about it and said both of us were overstating it.

@SleepingSilence

We are ALL talking about politics right now, pay attention kid.

I was more whining about the fact that you two seem to complain about this thread being a spam thread shitshow for idiots, but refuse not to engage in said shitshow for idiots making you both hypocrites.

Also speaking of labeling why do you keep trying to say everyone is younger than you? I don't even get the angle of that, are you trying to assert maturity or something? Absolutely nobody here thinks you are emotionally mature, I remember you kept asserting Odin was a teenager even though he's either one year younger than you or the same age. Are you trying to tie maturity to chronological age? If so what does that say about those who are actually older than you?

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Not him, but to be frank and spare you as much sarcasm as possible.

His definition of racism is broad because, he thinks race is a social construct and isn't biological.

@SleepingSilence

YEESSSS I was waiting for this!



I knew your over-emotional contrarian ass, would eventually get you to start arguing race realism, and the delicious thing is, I know you're not even a racialist but you want to make it clear you disagree with me on everything so you are taking this stance, love it!

Give me your biological definition of race. Me and @catchamber are dying to hear you of all people flex your expertise on genetic grouping based on arbitrary folk races.

Since you can't seem to refute my point about traps or even find the post where I even compared them to transgender or even mentioned transgender. I can see why you want to retreat to this hill. Come on give me your biological race arguments.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

Racism is a set of ideas, yes you can be absolutely racist without spitting on someone, try not to be so simplistic in your thinking. In the same way you can be a radical SJW without ever once screaming at a protest or a terrorist sympathiser without even opening your mouth. But you've made your position very very clear, I'm not sure what you want me to say? I know the definition of racism extends past just rude or violent actions, it's a thought process of discrimination. This is very basic stuff. Now if it doesn't bother you that some people advocate for a white ethno-state fine, I don't care. But don't expect me to nod along happily when you defend them. I have to draw the line somewhere.

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*Tries his best not to bring up the repeated grammar and spelling mistakes. Like really obvious ones!*

Yes, clearly I'm the one judging people merely different than I. (And not pointing out that unlike Progressives, I don't used identity as a weapon. And use labels that don't actually mean the same thing to everyone else, making them practically meaningless.)

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have brought it up, and then judge me on that I couldn't judge attraction based on it. Do you you even read what you type? :)

The term Traps are not related to transgenders either. So you're beyond disingenuous for trying to mix them up into the LBGT group.

There is a biological sex. Speaking bluntly. You're an idiot. It's not arrogance to know that things are not commonalities. That's called being in reality. Try it some time.

Edit: Also while I'm at it, your country sucks too. And your father smelt of elderberries...

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@SleepingSilence

Nowhere did I write the word transgender, a trap can look convincingly like a woman without being trans. Use your imagination....oh wait you don't think about girls do you? Well take my word for it.

Your history of making spelling mistakes while criticizing others for the same thing is well documented, remember when that guy who you consider to be an infant, pointed it out for the whole damn roleplaying bitchfest thread to see and laugh at?

@Pepperm1nts Scroll through this thread to see that this is just typical behaviour.

Yes there is a biological sex, its determined with chromosomes. Everything else can be altered, masked or interpreted. So yes you can be attracted to someone you think is a woman but is actually a guy. Wrap your head around that concept because you're so goddamn smart.

EDIT: If my country sucks then why is your AMERICAN racist brittany pettibone trying to get in? Tell her to fuck off back to whatever flyover state she was spawned in. We don't want any of your KKK members or anti semites either, sort your shit out.

But you LOVE our Paul Joseph Watsons and Milos, our gift to you!

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@Winter Star12

Which gaming and music may I ask?

I watch long from video game analysis by Noah Caldwell Gervais



And I enjoy Citypop and sometimes retrowave compilations too

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane

even if they do not advocate one culture, ethnicity, or race as one superior to another. Congratulations, we might well have found one.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

Why is your definition of racisim so narrow? You do realise you can be a racist without claiming some sort of vague 'supeririority'. They are racists because the discriminate based on race. In this particular case the context of the discrimination extends to those they want living in the european continent, take away the immigration argument, they are concerned with the demographics and advocacy of the ethno-cultural make up of europe (white people) as apposed to the non whites who are in europe. They literally detail this in the James Allsup conversation. Let me know if you need time stamps.

Its about race, its always been about race with these types, and its no surprise that a racist ethno-statist James Allsup would be in complete agreement with this group.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane I can't take anything seriously on here. So not putting jokes aside for me...

Yes, I did think that sounded bitter. Dude, well aware that it's generalizing. I also don't really care in this context, because it was stating my own opinion and elaborating on it. Ofcourse it would rely on personal anecdotes. And I don't disagree that sexual attraction/sex life is the contributing factor of most marriages. Though my own argument wasn't about that, and in fact pointed out that was a problem. (even knowing, the 50% marriage/divorce stat is bunk. And most married couples, are statistically more happy and healthy folks.)

So, I'm not actually bitter to anyone who finds the right one. Good on them, I'm happy when others are happy. I'm just different, for reasons I'm well aware of and I won't go into further.

I call it bullshit progressive terms, because I'm perfectly aware I'm an outlier to societal norms, and considered abnormal as a result. I don't want, nor care if anyone believes or accepts that terminology. I won't change people's mind,

@SleepingSilence

Sounds very similar to the experiences of the LGBT that you would discard as 'special snowflake' the irony is delicious here.

Not that I give a shit, my brother is Asexual, but he doesn't have your crippling arrogance to to try and lecture people on what orientation and attraction entails for the rest of the population that isnt like him.

On to traps, itd be hard for you to grasp this concept, not because you are Ace, but because it requires a level of nuance. My point is that orientationans depend on perception and no biological sex.

Im sure there are some female celebs you find attactive, and you probably find them attractive from signifiers of femininity, which are obviously extremely more common, but not completely exclusive to the female sex. The reality is, any of the women you (or any other straight guy) find attractive could actually be a biological male. And you might never find out.

Nobody gets aroused by someones Y chromosome or lack therof. You are attracted to what you percieve. And by that same reality, if you percieve a trap to be woman, can you really be called gay?

Think about that one hard for a moment, and try not to get upset, we are just talking about hypotheticals here.