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Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

There are of course people who abuse it. Every moral imperative comes with that threat. The trade off for sifting through abusive uses of victimization is hopefully that we avoid full blown racial pogroms.

@Vilageidiotx

As I've said though, today in America, the weaponization of racism is the bigger and more serious threat. By far. What I'm arguing is that we've crossed a threshold -- we're not 'sifting through' the abuses to find the problems, we're so buried in abuses that we're simply dredging up something that looks almost real and pretending so that we can collectively exploit it. Systemically, and not just when it comes to race (though that's certainly the most prone to producing actual violence as an outcome). This is crazy stupid bad for us, as a population that live alongside one another, but we're doing it anyway because Drumpf I guess. (It's not Trump, it's virtue signalling, but that's another thread)

Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

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I don't really consider myself black, but I wouldn't think you 'racist' for saying so.

@Buddha@mdk

I completely agree that there are a lot of professional victims who throw around words like racism and sexism too liberally, but it doesnt mean that they still arent real terms.

Racism is a real thing, its not a buzzword, or an emotional term, or just weaponised slang. Its a real adjective with real meaning. And its okay to call people racist if they are saying racist things, just because SJWs call everyone racist, it doesnt mean that calling someone racist makes you an SJW.

Also it doesnt have to have an agenda behind it, I can point out someones racism without wanting them to go to jail or lose their job. Maybe its because I want that person to reconsider their views, it doesnt have to be used maliciously.

Again this isn't really about jon tron, he seems to have some strange ideas about race that lean towards racism, but I'm not convinced hes an outright racist, I think hes just sipped some alt right kool-aid and hasnt had enough time to spit it up.

I don't think (and I don't think anyone here thinks) racism is bad because wahhh my feelings *sob* I think racism is bad because its ignorant and doesn't hold up to hard reasoning. Assigning flaky attributes to something that doesn't scientifically exist is just illogical, if youre all about 'facts not feelings' then you should be with me on this.

@Dynamo Frokane

I'm sorry but you're exactly wrong. Let's highlight this arbitrary segment for emphasis: he seems to have some strange ideas about race that lean towards racism, but I'm not convinced hes an outright racist, I think hes just sipped some alt right kool-aid and hasnt had enough time to spit it up.

What you're doing here has nothing to do with 'facts not feelings' or scientifical existence or whatever else you decided to call it -- you're determining whether or not a person (or series of statements) warrants thought, based on whether or not he/they pass the 'racist' test. It is specifically and exactly an anti-thought experiment, and it's what the weaponization of racism has produced, and it's why I'm not with you (or anyone else who's doing it) on this. To be clear, I'm not blaming you for (not?) thinking along these lines -- it's not your fault, you didn't create this problem. The problem is really, really, really, really real though, and it's waaaaaaaaaay bigger than some SJWs on twitter.

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@SleepingSilenceYep see 'shifting the goal post', you've changed your original claim.

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Now you're saying 'majority' that's a goalpost shift, try and keep an eye on what you write bud, so it isnt so easy to expose stuff like this xD

@Dynamo Frokane

that moment when gloating about how civil your thread is, makes your thread pretty un-civil

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Lets talk about JonTron and his possibly racist views.

The weaponization of the term 'racist' is probably the biggest social issue facing America right now -- I rank it over actual racism, because (a) said weaponization cheapens and invalidates actual racism, (b) it radically and irrevocably alters the conversation, preventing actual progress against real racism, and (c) it's much more prevalent (says the white guy, so YMMV).

example: the title of this thread is wildly inappropriate, from an intellectual perspective. The term "possibly racist views" is outlandish and terrible, especially as a pretense for discussion.

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@Vilageidiotx I honestly don't know. It really does seem like it's becoming a real thing. I mean like I said, so many comedians, won't go to college campuses anymore...

For your grandma being offended at that, sort of brings me to an observation. I think there has always been a movement of older generations of people, thinking the things young people do are secretly evil and corrupting them. Books, Music, Art, Hobbies, TV, Internet, Video games, Tattoo's. What have you...but I've never in a long time. Seen people in their 20's, and people who are NOT old...making this no longer an old vs new divide. I don't feel like going to deep into it. But when you have fucking people in their 20's telling me shit equivalent to someone decades older than them like a fox news anchor explaining that Watch Dogs turns you into a hacker. SOMETHING, is going wrong in the current world.

@SleepingSilence

I dunno what it is that's gone wrong, but I bet we can fix it by lighting whatever campus Milo visits on fire and pummeling everybody who shows up. I mean it's been working so far.

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*snaps fingers* shucks. Luca we hardly knew ya. You were..... really, really awkward and pretty dumb in the end. And the middle. And the beginning.

Just finished Planet Earth 2 and this is all I could think about the entire time

Oi, politidorks, hit me up with some nuanced articles you've been reading lately.

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They say you're far too edgy. But you: you're still seeking the edge.

@Dinh AaronMk

I'm a street-walking cheetah with a heart full of napalm

Oi, politidorks, hit me up with some nuanced articles you've been reading lately.

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I see you like in the radical extremes.

I can't say I can deride you on that.

@Dinh AaronMk

Indeed. Some say I am so far on the edge that I am the lord of the edge. Me, I don't even know what the edge means.