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Because that really is playing god at that point.

@SleepingSilence

So rather than having a professional give you a painless and reliable barbituate to drink, its better that you buy a shotgun at walmart? In either case the individual makes the choice to act not the physician or the walmart clerk.

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@IceHeart

Am I correct in assuming you believe in a literal hell?

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[ I get into arguments about just how healthy pot is for you, I have enough actual secondhand knowledge to roll my eyes.

@SleepingSilence

I am so with you on this. I'm not saying it dosent have benefits in certain therapeutic circumstances but people need to stop pretending its some sort of panacea.

That's incredibly arrogant to take it that way. 11 billion dollars is money that could be going into ANYTHING else. And the point of that study, isn't about money but about the survival rate. So all these people do, is make themselves go through a bunch of hospital time and waste a ton of money in the process. It's never going to be "profitable", can't really make someone pay if their dead. My point of bringing up cost, is the defense of "it's hurting no one else," when it's going to very likely financially burden someone else. (especially if it becomes legal.)

"The average cost of one suicide was $1,329,553. More than 97 percent of this cost was due to lost productivity. The remaining 3 percent were costs associated with medical treatment. The total cost of suicides and suicide attempts was $93.5 billion."

sprc.org/about-suicide/costs

@SleepingSilence

Im a little confused as to what your point is here. Is it that unsuccessful suicide attempts are expensive in lost productivity?

I don't think anyone is arguing that suicide 'hurts no one' because its clearly emotionally devastating for family and friends. This is the best argument against suicide in my opinion because, as I said, we will all be dead soon anyway so why rush.

That being said, dying a slow and agonizing death of cancer also devastating for all involved. I think people should have an option to end their lives in a painless and dignified way.

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I'm surprised there's such a high number of people committing suicide by suffocation. That's such a slow way to go.

@POOHEAD189

The data I presented is percentage of successful attempts rather than percentage of attempts by a particular method. I'm not sure what the actual breakdown is in absolute terms.

Grim Galaxy: Shots and Chances

Sayeeda punched the keyboard again and arrived at the same answer.

"Well," she said sinking back into the chair with a grim chuckle, "I suppose we can always eat Taya."

She had run a half dozen different ration scenarios and even at extreme rationing they would only just make it to the as yet unnamed planet. That would exhaust their food and there was no guarantee the place was settled or that there was any indigenous food they could eat. Also it would use up any safety margin they had, so if it didn't pan out they would have no choice but to risk an all or nothing jump.

"we are goin gto have to make the jump," she said glumly.

"Even if I go back into cryo it will be tight, and there is no gaurntee you will have the power to wake me up again."

"We are going to have to jump on number two and hope that the RIP isnt completely set against us." The analogy betwen the RIP and a tide was not perfect, a ship could make way even against a moderate current providing it wasn't in total opposition. Given a spherical orientation such a coincidence was extremely unlikely. But worse things happend in war time.

"I guess we are just going to have to fire it up and hope the containment shield holds and the navi computer dosent totally fry."

The Sorceress and the Slave

The woman regarded the slaves coldly for a long moment ignoring the overseer and his question. The silence stretched out for long seconds. The overseer was about to speak again when she knelt down and ran her long fingers through the coarse sand of the small fighting pit letting the grains flow through her closed fist and trying to get a sense of it. The sand was hungry, many men had been killed upon it, more yet had shed blood.

As abruptly as she had knelt she stood, the action accompanied by the faint musical clink of the ornaments in her veil. Her eyes turned to the two slaves who had been bought at her request. They were of no importance.

"Whichever of you can kill this man," she declared imperiously, pointing a slender finger at the slave she had come for.

"That man will go free."

"By Allah you cannot!" the Overseer shrieked, his voice rising in outrage. The two slaves were already pouncing towards Rhaak fingers outstretched like claws, hungry and eager to kill.

"I dont care who you represent these men are my property!" he raised his fist as if to strike but Amira merely met his eyes with a cold steady gaze. The overseer froze in mid blow as he gazed into her dark brown almond shaped eyes. Great beads of sweat began to stand out on his forehead and he began to tremble as though pinned by some unimaginable pressure. With a wheezing gasp he dropped to the ground craddling his head in his hand and sobbing uncontrollably. By Allah the Truth was painful to look upon. With a moments more for cold contempt, she turned back to watch how the fates unwound for the slaves.

@POOHEAD189

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Also how is there not a beer called smallpox so you can get a case of it?

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I think we should retranslate it as:

Do what I say or my Dad (who is also me) is gonna mess you up!

Parentheticals constitute sotto voce in this context.

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people already think doctors play god

@SleepingSilence

Yeah! For millions of years people were dying of preventable disease just like nature intended. Then we come along with our 'modern medicine' and start playing god. What jerks we are. Cant even get a decent case of smallpox anymore.