POOHEAD189

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I might be doing a poor job of presenting the question. It might also be a stupid question. In any case I take your meaning.

@mdk

Nah, it wasn't. No worries. It brought on a discussion^^

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@mdk

Firing a teacher because they are Muslim? No.

Firing a teacher because they were a member of ISIS? Yes.

Firing a professor because they a conservative? No.

Firing a professor because they are a Nazi? yes.

It really shouldn't be hard to make those distinctions in the majority of cases.

@Penny

I think it would be safe to say that being fired for what most consider 'radicals' is the line that's drawn. Muslim is fine, but
Al-Qaeda is not, etc.

Im really not sure how this would play out with an actual federal employee. What would be the legal standing of a State Department employee if they showed up at a pro Nazi rally?

I got curious and I asked my law-school friend who I game with on the weekends, and he said there is a very broad discretion with firing a State Department employee because they are technically not a protected class. But they'd still need to be provided with all of the severance benefits of a regular downsizing, and you'd need to be careful not to demean or slander them or they might have ground to sue the most benign thing you accuse them of. If you call them a Nazi slut, they can sue for the slut part if it was apart of the firing accusation, lol.

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@mdkWell that part just entails that you have the right to protest and assemble together. It has nothing to do with associating or not associating with people you don't want to. Unless I'm confused on the question somehow...

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I mean I agree wholeheartedly. But at the same time, if I'm forcing you to associate with people who don't represent your beliefs, is that not an infringement on your first amendment rights?

@mdk

No, as far as I know. I'm a Christian, and honestly I'm of the contention that much of the bible is mistranslated and isn't necessarily as against homosexuality as most think. However, even if it was, just because my belief on homosexuality being a sin doesn't mean that it is a sin to associate with someone like that.
I'm drawing a blank on what idealogy or religion forbids people from associating with other people specifically. I do realize people believe things like "I don't want to be around sinners" or "I don't want to be around muslims" but show me the doctrine where it is a Christian law that prohibits such things.
Or any doctrine for any major faith/political belief.

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Perhaps a good chance to segue -- is it wrong to fire somebody for political views you don't agree with? Would that be different than -- for instance -- firing a teacher because they were Muslim? In my mind, if you're taking federal money, that's sort of a non-discrimination contract... you don't get to fire Drexel Bro, you don't get to fire the economics teacher who wears a Hijab, you don't get to fire the lesbian groundskeeper, etc., unless they're failing at their actual job. Where's everybody's line? Sort of a freedom-versus-freedom situation.

@mdk

I think it's the same thing, discrimination against someone because of a belief, whether it be political or religious.

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This is true, but it does make him an individual with which an institute of higher learning might rightly question its ties too.

@Penny

I didn't think of it that way, you're right. I suppose I'm just a bit annoyed at mob mentalities recently.

The Lord of the Rings: The Age of Men

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I did hear of a college professor being singled out because he was recognized at a rally, and a few thousand people are pressuring to have him lose his job. I always thought I held morality to a really high standard, but this man's ignorant beliefs doesn't necessarily mean he is bad at teaching chemistry. Kind of reminds me of Billy Bush getting fired for agreeing with Trump, when Trump is...well he's the president.

Dogs of War: Old World Mercenaries

Cyrdic sent a Reiklander mercenary reeling, the man's weight smashing into one of the tables and upending drinks and mutton. The barkeeper's shouts behind Cyrdic had gone unnoticed by everyone, and Cyrdic would have to follow suit if he wanted to be alert on all sides. A movement to his left caught his attention, and he ducked as a man sailed over him to land onto a second table. Cyrdic was in awe at the feat of strength of whoever had just done that. Cyrdic could do it, granted. But he wasn't used to others being able to. He tried to gauge the source, and saw the burly longbeard with the runic hammer wiping his hands together as if to say 'good riddance.'

The Osltlander had very little time to look, almost immediately being caught within the Kislevites as they tried to bowl the rest of the patrons over through sheer force of numbers. It was almost comical seeing their odd, horse-riding gaits as they waved around makeshift crudgels and their curved horse swords. A few had been fully engrossed in the brawl, but it seemed the second half of the group had decided to go with a more disciplined approach, now fully gutting or braining anyone that got within their way.

"_Cyrdic!"

He knocked aside a saber with his shield, his sword still in its sheath and a chair leg within his hand now. He could have sworn he had heard his name, but the crack of weapon on weapon, and weapon on bone, filled the air. As did the shouts and curses in Kislevite.

"Cyrdic!"

He recognized Camilla's voice. He couldn't help but glance over to the stairway to see her in the relative safety of the high ground, but that cost him his own safety and the Kislevites charged, knocking Cyrdic back as he hefted his shield up in defense on his soldier's instincts.

He hit the bar next to Ricardo, unknowingly getting in the way of the handgun now cocked and aimed. The assassin fired, his bullet punching through Cyrdic's shield and into his shoulder. The Ostlander's eyes went wide and he cried out in pain, falling into a kneeling position. The crack of the gunpowder weapon caused everyone to halt for a mere moment, the silence defeaning.

Until someone threw another chair and steel was drawn by all. Ricardo spat a curse in Tilean, and raised the bloodied knife that had been lodged within his back, sending it end over end to take the would-be killer in the throat. Blood fountained out of the wound, the man's eyes bulging in disbelief.

"Come! Come! We must go." Ricardo yelled over the calamity, before he hissed in Tilean. "Camilla mi ucciderà se tu muori." Cyrdic groaned in annoyance, his left arm now much weaker from the lead ball stuck in it. He stubbornly held onto his shield though, and he could still move. "Come!" Ricardo said, helping Cyrdic to his feet. Together, the two men's bulks managed to steamroll through the distracted mob to collapse at the stairwell.
@Penny

The Elder Scrolls: The Condemned.

Unlike Thyra, Alim had been here longer than her and ate whatever food was given to him. That and, he'd had to scavenge all of his life. He tipped the bowl back and ate greedily, though even to his sensibilities it was hard going down. Needless to say he drank plenty of water after to wash away the taste. The young man patted his bare chest with his fist, stifling a burp.

He blinked, giving a guilty smile before her violent eyes drew his in with that glint he had so often seen in his own reflection. He was suddenly marveling at this foreign women with a personality so much like his own. "I got the apple, didn't I?" he asked her, placing his bowl down and watching her as she toyed idly with her hair. His chin rested on the center bar of his door. He admitted he doubted they could leave without going past a garrison, but the mention of a sewer system...

"I had forgotten," he said. "There are old tales of the sewers being connected to the prison, but I'd never dreamed of making it there after the first 3 days in this place."

He looked away from her there, disgust at his own failure to escape by himself welling up within him. It was an odd thing, but he prided himself on being an able rogue and thief. What kind of scoundrel couldn't escape cells run by guards such as these? Oh well, take the hand you're dealt, he told himself. When he looked back at her, her grin brought a grin of his own to his face. "I never thought you'd ask. But we'll need to be patient. Don't let that sly look appear in your eye when the guard comes by again." he told her with a chuckle.