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They have other things holding it together. What makes you think that those other things are the order holding it together. But from what if there is no magic? What other factors of chaos would those forces be necessary?


The most powerful world is the one where order and chaos are perfectly balanced. Ours is much closer than a non-magical world where order rules. And if your world is ruled by chaos, good luck getting much of anything accomplished.
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Ah! Say that again!


They can do even less?
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Would it though? Have you been to realms where magic has no place? Where it is not even a construct, let alone merely illusions of the dexterous? Explain how they fall apart?


Easy, they have other things holding it together, usually with more order than magic. So they can do even less.
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Fully chaotic magic is magic. Ordered magic is what it has been transformed into. The titles are meaningless when it comes magic it self because most are associating it to spell-casting and how magic is used. Magic is ever changing and violent.


Magic is responsible for the order of everything. The fact that we can tap into and harness that order is just a bonus. If magic weren’t already part ordered, everything would fall apart.
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Exactly! I’m not denying order, but in its base form: Magic is Chaos. Nature and the world around magic is what creates order. Magic circles are a way to enforce order with Magic. We are enforcers of order with magic. No matter how “dark” or “evil” the magic may be.


What would you call a fully chaotic magic? You would have no order to tap into. What would you call a fully ordered magic? It’d be useless. It may not be perfectly balanced, but the closer to that center it is the more useful it gets.
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In a world where Magic is a norm, it may not appear so, but you are bending reality and an energy to do your will. Have you looked into raw magic and mana? It is volatile. It has to be that way to change into what shape it or someone wills it to be, otherwise it is just regular energy. Energy that transfers. Magic doesn’t transfer, rather it transforms. Rapidly.


Its order is the only thing that lets it be useful to the caster. What else would you call a magic circle?
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Interesting that you mention that it appears that chaos follows me as it is fitting. Magic is chaos.


Mmmmmm I don't know about that one. Order and chaos both have to work together.
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Or shake a stick.


Well... yeah, that too.
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Progression of the further reaches of magic will not be done within a council of elders who are stuck in their ways.


I just think it’s fun to stick your thumb at them.
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They are mad that I broke the balance of their power fantasies. I just wanted to learn from them. They didn’t like that I was an overwhelming force.


Sounds like you’re a real agent of chaos.
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