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It's not really, and even if it is that doesn't change the fact that when seeing someone like that I can draw some instant conclusions. Even off of your "non-serious" point you kind of go along with what I'm trying to say by saying that white ones are usually desperate and overcompensate when trying to go into this culture.

@Andreyich

Eh, different places. Word might mean something different over there. Don't have much to add here that wouldn't be repeating myself.

Lynn, Vanhanen, Kanazawa with books like the Ten Thousand year explosion. It's also pretty evident when you just look at who emerged with farming and nomadic rather than hunter-gatherer societies first.

@Andreyich

Something that goes through that book you mentioned.

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That doesn't change the fact that we can't really speak up and the books/studies published by this side are proverbially lynched from the get-go and half the time there aren't even publishers willing to distribute them on the grounds it's raycis. It's not hard to be right when you confiscate all of the other side's shit.

@Andreyich

Well it doesn't happen here, yay free speech. (Though people will try.) But I understand that other places don't have that and people in this country don't know how good they have it.

Your loss. I've been taught to be a calculating and paranoid bugger from day 1 which has served me well.

@Andreyich

Everyone in my life kept telling me I was paranoid, right before/after they sticked a knife in my back. And in hindsight I'm pretty sure I've been being gaslighted for a decade and half. <.<

Sure, I suppose being optimistic, hasn't helped me much in my life. But if I ever was actually paranoid, I don't think it would of actually benefited me. <.<

But that's neither here, or there.

I mean, I did it in part because I get tired of pushing aside the claims. If people want to bitch and whine and push these buzzwords at me then so be it, I've had it happen too much to give a shit.

@Andreyich

#HowTrumpWon

This is also more likely to do with culture preference and models, if one is over-exposed to a single cultural group - especially if it is usually designed for older/more mature people to be emulated - they will most likely come to resent it and find relief in another somewhat "rebellious" one.

@Andreyich

Like every atheist teen that has Catholic parents. (Though them seeming to have a fetish for people going to hell. So frankly I don't blame them.) And guilt tripping people like that is precisely why I/my family no longer went to church. <.<

But in all seriousness. I don't think rebellion had much to do with it. Mostly me just learning, there's good and bad everywhere. I never tried to change myself on purpose. I got into parts of other cultures, books, music, art etc. But didn't ever stop me from enjoying my own.

From my country to faith, it kind of sucks being irrelevant/unheard of.

Old Believers are pretty much the only Orthodox Christian branch/sub-group that isn't some unheard of cult or syncretism. It happened when a few hundred years ago there were differences in rite between Imperial Russian as well other Church Slavonic texts of all sorts and the Greek ones used outside of Eastern Europe. The Emperor wanted to close the differences between the Greeks and his subjects/diaspora so he ordered everyone to switch to the Greek way which was supposedly right and the Eastern European one was attributed to failures in translation and just overall differences appearing over time as is supposedly natural. Some people stayed with the old Rite and the Emperor issued a repression on them, thus many fleeing to either the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth where they couldn't pursue (Belarus being in the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth at the time) or to live with the Cossacks which were free of most Russian laws.

Of course, later research vindicated us since it actually came to prove that we had rite based on Older Greek texts from Constantinople and such that the Greeks did not have, thus proving us, more or less objectively right. So thus came the name, "Old Believers." Reconciled means that we've accepted the Apology of the mainstream Orthodox Church but keep on with our rite.

@Andreyich

Okay then. Glad to learn about something. I literally just watched like a 2 hour debate of religion last night, so I sort of had it on the brain at the time.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Vilageidiotx

I don't think war is ever really normalized. But I know a lot people are uninformed, so they don't know about it and only will if the news covers it. So maybe there's not enough outcry every time a solider is killed. But when people do know about it, they often have negative reactions to it.

humblelibertarian.com/2011/08/bush-20…

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Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending Bush presidency. But I don't think it's silly. Bush 2.0 is basically extremely accurate. (Read the links. Or at least skim them plz. :P)

Also I think Bill Clinton was responsible for the housing market crash. (or at least was the one who started the fire.)

investors.com/politics/editorials/sor…

cnbc.com/2016/05/28/are-the-clintons-…

I'm honestly expecting for the left side and right side to make the exact same arguments against Trump, and I mean the EXACT same ones during the 2020 election. (Which will make that year possibly just as unbearable.) Because politicians don't seem to learn from history. If Trump isn't called racist or sexist even once during the 2020 campaign by people running against him, I'll *insert absurd thing here*. <.<

Hell, oddly enough I think Kayne if he ran for the left/third party, may get him a stupidly high chunk of the minority vote...(if he could manage to even take the campaign remotely seriously.)

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Penny Being a human is overrated though.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I'm using a relatively simple example to illustrate the sort of biological processes that make up the human body. These sorts of processes (and its waaaaaaaaaay more complicated than I'm making it sound) control every aspect of our bio chemistry. Why would we assume that the decision making processes which integrate our sensory data are structured any differently? Just because we feel that way? We feel a lot of stuff based on the current hormone and neurotransmitter levels in our brains. I can literally change the way you feel by medicating you.

Why would there be another type of system buried deep in our brains that provides some sort of contra-causal freewill? Isn't it more likely that the same sort of predictable, if complex chemical, interactions serve that purpose?

Assuming for a moment we have freewill. Do other animals have it? Do worms have it, do ants? What about bacteria? We classify all these things as alive. Is it only mammals? Maybe only Eukaryotes? Where and how did free will enter the evolutionary chain?

The more you think about it, the more it seems like a case of special pleading.

Maybe its all academic anyway and the appearance of free will is as good as the real thing. I certainly try to tell myself that.

@Penny

I know the example wasn't trying to be too serious. Which is why I didn't dive into it too deeply.

Well as a christian, it's hard to really get into a debate of free will from a fully scientific perspective of all of that. Also I haven't been in school in so long, that I'm pretty sure I've gotten stupider at least on a technical level. :/

But I understand what you're trying to say. Maybe it would be fun, or enlightening for you to do a little digging to actually know what you should/would consider yourself. :3

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@Andreyich I did see it. Had a lot of stuff on my plate, suddenly haha. But I appreciate the thought though. :3

I suppose I forfeit this since it turns out I misunderstood what racism is, which I'll visit later in this post. As long as we can agree that there are a variety of factors at work here I think on this point we're done.

@Andreyich

I certainly don't disagree with some things you've said. Just the whole generalization part and slightly doubt on the genes parts. ;P I wasn't necessarily trying to go full blown debate anyhow. So I don't mind closing statements on this topic in particular.

The link I provided was to dissuade the "lol whites are mass shooters so it's the same" train of thought, not to prove a point. Individuals however should and matter, at least somewhat since it is they after all who are the ones forming a collective.

@Andreyich

Fair enough, though I wasn't making the argument against it. So I feel like it wasn't too necessary. But yes whites shoot people, but it's mentally fucked in the head people we're usually dealing with. And that goes into mental health more than anything else.

I meant a thug as in the cultural thing, gold grillz, blasting boom box, etc.

@Andreyich

Ah. Still seems like a negative stereotype. Also I find white people that act like this far more obnoxious because their on a case of "try hard" and desperation does bad things. (*this is not a serious point*)

It is, but like I said in my π world shithole of a home country I experienced very little criminality apart from that which I brought upon myself. Admittedly this was when I was only in my home village and the nearest city, I haven't been to the whole country for a reasonable amount of time but I doubt it's too different.

@Andreyich

I've experienced it plenty, but I don't think it's useful to use those individual incidents to say anything about a culture. Maybe just how I've grown from it.

Beside I find it much more useful to just hate all humanity equally. #Blackcatslivesmatter. Fuck people that kill them because their black, seriously that's a real thing. (*this is not a serious point*)

But yeah, America is far better than the media portrays them, especially elsewhere. But getting into the weeds, and I wouldn't even say I'm that patriotic, so this message may be a little flat coming from me. So I'll leave it at that.

I'm not sure what this means or more precisely if I understand it right, considering the meaning of victimization.

If you're trying to assert that the more wealthy strata do as much crime as the lower classes then you're plain wrong. At most, they do more crime of the sort like you mentioned, drug use and such that (supposedly) doesn't hurt anyone and is """"""victimless.""""""

Interesting considering you'd think they can't afford one. Not all that pertinent though.

This is largely to do with Hispanics making quite often their wealth off of stuff that is quite simply illicit.

Once again, clarify since I'm not sure what you mean by victimization, if it is to make another person a victim or to become one.

That's probably because they get targeted and don't really commit crime on their own part making others see them as weaker and more opportune targets, which is not wholly untrue.

@Andreyich

Okay I would say I don't really like some of the implications here. But I'll admit it's completely my fault. All the stuff above here is a part of the link above it and I just forget to put it in obvious quotes. This isn't my conjecture it's recorded study data by someone else. So a lot of the responses are from that angle, so it's hard to reply to any of them.

History?

@Andreyich

Citation needed? :3 *I spent a lot of time writing things but I deleted it. Dieting doesn't help the brain process things I've learned. :D*

Can't be a debate if one side isn't really allowed to speak up.

@Andreyich

Fair enough, but again. Whose silencing stuff like this? A race? No, a political ideology. Which I argue has caused a lot of the problems.

I think eugenics is pretty autistic yes, but generalizations do have their purpose and use. When I look at someone for the first time I can always draw conclusions that I should act accordingly to and are up to the other person to be proven right or wrong.

@Andreyich

Guilty until proven innocent? I can tell you that doesn't fit western views. (though you're not from here, so that probably means nothing.) But yeah, I just agree to disagree with that ideal. I understand where your logic comes from, but my brain just will never work that way.

I searched up the definition of racism again and yes, you're right. I didn't read it through properly and just saw the "key words" of prejudice against a different race. Since I know that superiority is more or less impossible I suppose I can remove the label of racist from myself. I admit I was wrong to use it, though this probably won't stop others from applying it to me.

As said earlier, I guess I was wrong. I thought it meant to only be prejudiced which I am, I don't believe in superiority of any sort though, but people will call me racist anyways.

@Andreyich

Doesn't help when you applied it to yourself, my man. XP

But yes, that happens. Usually by privileged class white people that project their feelings to things, they actually care very little about. But I'm repeating myself.

It's sure helped me here. It helped me pick what was, I'm sure absolutely coincidentally the nicest neighborhood to be around, knowing simply the ethnic composition.

@Andreyich

My predominantly white schools absolutely sucked, and was full of pieces of shit. And I highly preferred my predominately black school, many who were at least much less spiteful people. And my non-ghetto friends pale in comparison (and having an actual spine.) to how close I've become to them and the things they've experienced and took in stride. (Everyone that I've meet and spent time with, are far less spineless than people seem to think they are. Including my family. <.<) But I guess anecdotally, both hold about the same weight of the real world as a whole.

Maybe I hate my race instead, call the national guard for purging, I'm defective. (*this is not a serious point*)

Reconciled Old Believer.

@Andreyich

Believer of? (I mean I guess it's sort of obvious. (ignoring the 7 billion different denominations.) But I guess I'm not fully sure what that means either.)

Hopefully this closing statement suffices.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Signing bills that your party gives you (without reading them I might add) is the easiest thing in the world to do. And yes, the link is here. He's spent 143 days in office, and 71 on vacation. That is literally 1 day less than half of his presidency.

Edit: Also, a lot of those facts are speculative at best.

He 'negotiated' a deal. He's made us lose far more jobs by trying to revive the coal industry, and by taking is out of the Chinese trade deal, and by not opening up safe, energy efficient jobs that are literally the future. Most things he's done is literally just for show, to say he's done them.

@POOHEAD189

@POOHEAD189

So why did Obama and so many before him do so little? It wasn't due to the economy not needing help. And how do we know what was read or not? Seems rather speculative.

But if that statement is true, that's not very fantastic. I don't know if the "maralago" trips had anything to do with the presidency or not. But I won't defend something that seems suspect. Like I said, not a big Trump fan.

Though the media and people like Seth Myers, giving me that information, I can hardly take those people seriously, from the lies they themselves have said in the past.

I'll admit, this election (and how it's felt like we'd already got the 8 years of bush, in less than a year. When it comes to slandering every single thing somebody has done.) And various things have kind of made me hate politics so much, I don't really follow them as closely as I used too.

But he isn't shutting down jobs for coal. He's rehiring a part of the workers Obama had shut down on purpose to "kill their industry." Alternative energy shouldn't be considered practical on a wide scale, and will have oil and other energies backing it up. Because it has already visible problems lead to problems elsewhere. And that's disregarding an argument for the third world.

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Not to be rude, but you do know Trump has spent nearly half of his presidency golfing or at Maralago, he's done very little except signing executive orders, and making one mistake after another.

@POOHEAD189

Can we really say "half his presidency" has been spent golfing if he's hasn't been in there for even that long? Do you have a link to this? (even looking it up, that seems to be hyperbole, though I don't even get how one can have 8 vacations under their belts already, but I'm not exactly a huge trump person either. :/)

His followers seem to think he's at least doing more than nothing.

Campaign Promise 1: To replace Antonin Scalia with a like-minded justice from a list of 20
Trump replaced Antonin Scalia with Neil Gorsuch, an incredibly qualified and Constitution-abiding justice
Campaign Promise 2: To suspend immigration from terror-prone countries
Trump has attempted to enact a Travel Ban that is 100% CONSTITUTIONAL AND is made from the seven (six, now) "countries of concern" outlined by the Obama Administration. This has been blocked by an extremely liberal Hawaiian judge who was appointed by Obama. (The blocking of this travel ban might piss me off more than anything that has happened during his presidency, because judges should be blind to politics, but that is proving to be false.) Hopefully this will go to the Supreme Court and be overturned quickly.
Campaign Promise 3: To defund and crack down on sanctuary cities
Trump has implemented a YUGE crackdown on sanctuary cities, threatening to defund them
Campaign Promise 4: To revive the Keystone Pipeline and Dakota Access Pipeline
The revival of the Dakota and Keystone XL Pipelines creating American jobs
Campaign Promise 5: To pull the US out of the TPP, an Obama-era trade deal detrimental to the US
Trump pulled us out of the TPP which would have been absolutely disastrous for the US
Campaign Promise 6: DONALD TRUMP LOVES WOMEN AND WANTS TO HELP WOMEN!
Trump has signed an Executive Order promoting women in STEM jobs (careers real feminists strive for, not "dance therapy" feminists)
Trump has Launched a Council empowering female leaders and female entrepreneurs
Campaign Promise 7: To renegotiate, or pull out of Bill Clinton's terrible trade deal, NAFTA
Trump met with Justin Trudeau (what a joke) to discuss the tweaking of NAFTA to benefit the US more, after he threatens to leave it
Campaign Promise 8: To undo ridiculous Obama-era federal agency regulations
Trump ordered a two-for-one repeal for all new regulations enacted by federal agencies
Campaign Promise 9: To rollback Obama-era regulations on small businesses
Trump has rolled back ridiculous Obama-era regulations that have made it nearly impossible for small businesses to hire employees
Trump has already saved taxpayers $86 Billion by cutting regulations
Campaign Promise 10: To help America's inner-cities deeply in need of rebuilding
Trump has signed an Executive Order to give major funding to "Historically Black Colleges and Universities," helping out inner-cities immensely
Campaign Promise 11: To protect our policemen, the true everyday heroes
Trump signed an Executive Order protecting our police
Campaign Promise 12: To crackdown on illegal immigration and to BUILD A WALL
Trump has implemented a YUGE crackdown on illegal immigration and he has started the WALL initiative
Campaign Promise 13: To bolster our depleted military
Trump has increased our military budget because we don't want to use our military, but want to be prepared to use it
Campaign Promise 14: To enact a five year lobbying ban on government Officials after they leave office
Trump has placed a five year and lifetime lobbying ban on government officials for when they leave office
Campaign Promise 15: To crackdown on drug cartels and illegal drugs crossing the border
Trump signed an Executive Order cracking down on drug cartels
Campaign Promise 16: To revitalize the dying coal industry in the US
Trump has enacted Joint Resolution 38 putting thousands of coal miners back to work
Campaign Promise 17: To create American JOBS and bring companies back to America
Trump negotiated a deal with Carrier promising to bring manufacturing and jobs back to the US.
Trump has met with CEOs from huge companies to work on bringing jobs back to America
There was an increase of 298,000 jobs in February alone (liberals will say that counts in Obama's fiscal year, but we know the truth)
Trump met with Intel CEO who promised $7 Billion investment and over 3,000 high paying (not "shovel ready" bullshit jobs) in America
Trump met with the CEO of Softbank who has promised 50,000 more American jobs and has already fulfilled 3,000 of those jobs
Kroger has promised over 10,000 new jobs in the era of Trump
The month of March yielded 263,000 new jobs, which passes the month's estimated 185,000 Big League
Campaign Promise 18: Pushing NATO allies to pay their fair share or face the reality of the US possibly leaving
Trump has put major pressure on the members of NATO to pay their fair and equal share because there are only a handful of countries in NATO who currently pay as much as agreed upon
Campaign Promise 19: To make America energy independent, relieving us from our dependence on foreign entities, such as OPEC
Trump has taken major steps towards America's energy independence
Campaign Promise 20: To enact a hiring freeze on government employees to help stop corruption
Trump enacted a hiring freeze to all federal employees, cutting down on the over-bloated bureaucracy
Campaign Promise 21: Trump could be the president that takes us to Mars!
Trump signed a Bill allowing NASA funding, including an exploration to Mars
Campaign Promise 22: To undo many of Obama's unconstitutional Executive Orders
Rescinding (one of) Obama's incredibly unconstitutional actions regarding transgender bathrooms in schools
Campaign Promise 23: The repeal and replacement of Obamacare. The recent GOP fallout of AHCA Plan was no fault of Trump's. The blame solely belongs to Speaker Ryan. He created a shit bill and couldn't even capitalize to get enough votes. Obamacare will crash in 2017 when individual mandates kick in and Democrats will be to blame. That is when Trump will truly work to Repeal and Replace it with a plan he promised us.
Trump got rid of the idiotic penalty in Obamacare that fines you if you choose not to participate in the program
Campaign Promise 24: To "Bomb the shit out of ISIS"
A few days ago, Trump dropped the YUGE MOAB on a group of ISIS militants, killing 90+ terrorists and causing damage to underground tunnels and technology
He called for a drone strike in Afghanistan killing Qari Yasin, a Pakistani Al-Qaeda leader
Campaign Promise 25: To not take a salary as President
He donated his first quarterly salary to the National Park Service
Campaign Promise 26: To reform the VA and make it easier for Vets to get more healthcare opportunities
He signed A Bill allowing veterans to seek healthcare outside of the broken VA system
Trump has created the Accountability Office at the VA, making it incredibly easy to oust incompetent VA employees
Campaign Promise 27: To create a much needed tax reform
Trump has laid out an extremely concise, yet effective Tax Reform Plan to lower taxes for Americans and end things like inheritance tax, and to cut corporate tax rates down to 15%
Campaign Promise 28 (Scroll down to see "School Choice and Education Act"): To fix our country's incredibly broken education system
Trump has signed an Executive Order giving the power of our country's education back to state and local authorities
ACTIONS NOT PROMISED ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN PUT IN EFFECT:
(Even though it was Mike Pence) The defunding of clinics that perform abortions. Because no matter whether you are pro-choice/pro-life, the government should not be funding abortions. (Also, if people bring up the Hyde Amendment which is supposed to not let any federal funding go towards abortions, LET THEM KNOW that US taxpayers pay for about 24% of abortions despite of that "amendment")
Huge spikes in the NASDAQ average index and the DOW average index starting November 8th. (This will count for Obama unfortunately, but we know where the real credit belongs.)
He has placed sanctions on Iran after they tested ballistic missiles
He has met with/talked to over 68 foreign leaders
He negotiated down the Price of the new Air Force One one billion dollars in a meeting that lasted just one hour
He issued major cuts to the costs of the F-35 saving billions
He has opened the eyes of the American public to just how unbelievably corrupt (pretty believable to most) the Obama Administration was.
After spending 3 years in a prison in Egypt, and absolutely no help from President Obama, humanitarian and US citizen Aya Hijazi has safely returned home and has given all credit to President Trump

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Trump has signed more bills in 100 days than any president since Truman. I mean whether significant ones or "good." (which is why Polifact labels this statement "mostly true" <.<)

What really else can you expect a president to do?

Aside from trying to abuse his power and go beyond what they can do...which I'd prefer not. I assume most would not like that. >.>

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I have high tolerance and only drank beer, not the homemade stuff we had in the old country that we'd put in a car sometimes.

@Andreyich

Yea...most people that tell me that get drunk quicker. Because they end up drinking more than they can tolerate. XP

Sorry to be blunt but that the hell does this mean?

In layman's term, the "democrat" party, who run cities continuously without any other party getting a chance. Has lead to the worst living conditions and cities, which lead to those cities to become susceptible to crime. Detroit for instance, had one of the highest city per capita of every city of the U.S, is now in ruins from this.

I don't know dude America seemed pretty racist and you hear stories of raycis people in America all the time but if you're an American I'll take your word for it.

Google and many american run businesses have gender and race quota's to make sure their's enough "diversity" within a business. You know how those quota's are in Japan? They DON'T HAVE THEM, because they don't give a damn.

You hear it because the media outside is spreading even worse propaganda out there...

It is unintentionally, because culture is not the only difference.

Neither is race? It's not racist. It's literally about opposing criminals. You can have a problem with a person or group and not care about the characteristics.

Very poor analogy, since that was after all 80 years ago and it's an argument based on "muh exceptions" which I instantly discount. Rich blacks also tend to commit as much or equivalent crime to poor whites.

I know, I said it was. But so was the link you provided. Individuals shouldn't matter and even if they did, it wasn't a good one to provide. Most (and I mean nearly all) "crimes" rich blacks get punished for though related to drug possession. Which can be debated if that's a worthy crime or not.

He's much less likely to do so, not to mention poor whites don't fall into that culture as much as poor blacks.

There's a fault in your own logic. You used the word "thug"...that already implies the fucker ain't on the up and up. It would be like using the word "rapist" implying men and telling me it less likely to happen because that rapist is a women. But the word you used was already a negative connotation. So how does that really make any logical sense?

Poverty is still a large factor of crime. I'd argue more so than race. In almost all cases of various crimes.

secureteen.com/juvenile-delinquency/p…

vittana.org/26-poverty-and-crime-stat…

People living in households in the US that have an income level below the Federal poverty threshold have more than double the rates of violent victimization compared to individuals in high-income households.

Individuals who live in poverty are more likely to report a crime than those who do not live in poverty, but more than half of all crime is believed to go unreported to local law enforcement.

When people live in households that are struggling with poverty, they also have a higher rate of violence that involves a firearm at 3.5 per 1,000 people compared to 0.8-2.5 per 1,000 people in middle-to-high income families.

For both whites and blacks/African-Americans in the US, the overall pattern of being in poverty with the highest rates of victimization was consistent. For Hispanics and Latinos, violent victimization is relatively equal across all income levels.

Hispanics in the US who are living in poverty have nearly half the rates of violent victimization when compared to poor whites. Even poor blacks/African-Americans have a lower rate of violent victimization in poverty compared to whites.

Urban poverty increased the risks of violence and crime for US households, but did not change the racial risk factors. Whites are the most at risk in an urban poverty household to experience crime, at a rate of 5.64%. Blacks/African-Americans had the second highest level of risk for experiencing crime in urban poverty at 5.13%.

No, I acknowledge what is due acknowledgement. I do think that the break up of family structure thus leading to unemployment and a nasty circle is very detrimental. However, long ago, in ye olden days before words were even created, the white lad had to care for a family to help them survive the cold, they had to swim, and build shelter much more often, for this was the best way to pass on his DNA. For the African lads, the best way to pass on their DNA was to simply have as many partners as possible and beat the competition away. This, by natural selection and all created two groups of people with traits physical, behavioural and emotional that are very different, so while society can largely be blamed it isn't the sole thing to be blamed.

Now I'm not sure where you get this from exactly...

Yes they most definitely do. I do generalize although I find stereotypes to be often silly, i.e. Asians being bad at driving; they are most likely on average about as good at driving as whites because of higher IQ and thus pattern recognition and spatial awareness, whilst blacks loving their watermelons more than their mothers is also very silly since watermelons grow best in far north africa and the middle east and naturally wouldn't be part of their preferred/customary palette. Superiority is theoretically and in practice impossible, simply adaptations for different ways to lead of life is what happens. Blacks are faster than whites, whites are stronger than blacks, blacks are much better adapted for jumping whilst whites are better adapted for swimming. Yes, I admit that environs do heavily affect perspective.

Well again, you say definitely but it's to be debated by people still to this day. :/

I feel like generalizations aren't practical on a pure logical standpoint and the more people that think in those ways, take one step towards suggesting shit like eugenics. Not saying you in anyway. But admitting your "racist" and just being aware of differences between bodies and cultures etc. aren't the same...

Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race (or someone else race) is superior.

I mean, I'm not. I don't assume that every single black out there is going to be some fried chicken munching serial rapist, I just think recognition of differences between various ethnic groups is healthy, and that has helped me in the real world.

I sort of doubt it. (the help of being prejudiced) Though I guess people perceive things differently all around.

But you call yourself a racist, without a hint of hesitation? I feel like the only reason to do that is to be provocative...

It's like people on youtube, young blokes in their 20's starting to outright post sympathizing remarks to pedophiles. It's just a little worrying that people like that don't seem to even be aware of why that's a problem in the first place.

Not to get off in the weeds, but I assume you're an atheist? (Just curious.)

What Are You Listening To?

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That's what I was saying though, I wasn't getting like that in those areas because I knew that isn't the old country.

@Andreyich

Not to make it a personal judgement. But people who get drunk in bars, are likely not to make the best decisions in practically, so at best
I have to take your word for it, that your decisions didn't lead you don't those paths. #victimblaming ^-^'

Community within the cities matters too.

I assume this is talking about racial percentages in those cities communities will lead to crime. But there's plenty of cases that show that isn't the case. What can be statistically shown, is the most violent cities are the ones that have been unending democratic control for long periods of time.

It is a jab at their race though.

No, it's not. It's a bias to illegals (or criminals who happen to be non-Caucasian.) All those crimes didn't come from legal Hispanics. There's a stark contrast in their cultures. If a place like Russia, or Germany was joint at the hip to the United States. And all of them decided to move here without integrating, we'd have very similar problems...

Hispanics also tend to be more prone to criminality than whites; even in Brazil you can see that the population in mountains and other predominantly white communities is less criminal despite having nearly the same socioeconomic status.

Would of liked links, but looking myself.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3419140/…

bridgingeurope.net/a-brazilian-take-o…

Maybe there's a religion at fault for that one. (At lack of better information.)

I don't believe racism plays a big part in America. But I completely acknowledge and believe it probably is more of a problem everywhere else. Because many people don't take outsiders as kindly, and when they try to hard to accept the wrong ones there cultures get destroyed.

You see, the thing is that race is a better predictor of crime than poverty, and the "wypipo are school shooters lol" is not really an excuse since in all sorts of mass shootings non-whites are actually overrepresented.

The first link is true, but I don't deny of those statics. I point out those statics aren't linked due to genetics. But gang related crime.

The second link isn't really meaningful, it's point is that some shooters who got more kills aren't white. But does a shooter become "more deadly" because his gun was more accurate than somebody else? And even in the title "30" of them at least 12 aren't white...that's not even half.

A poor analogy, but has equal substance. Because I would like to point out plenty of white people have killed people...probably most than many others. Hitler was white, his kill count is staggering. There are also plenty of places (out of the US.) with mostly Caucasians that you'd feel much less safe than the higher black populated areas of America...

Yes, perhaps socioeconomic factors affect them but even if that is true, that doesn't really remove justification from prejudice. When thinking of my safety I don't care if the lowriding "thug" with a snapback is acting that way because of genes or because of their environment, and I'm especially not going to care when he shot me. And, I do recognize that environment does screw them over. The degenerate rap and hip-hop culture encouraging single motherhood, "playas," profanity, aggressiveness being equivalent to masculinity and other such things is naturally a detriment to the development of a young black. But trouble is that their culture isn't changing.

But since that was brought up I believe that environment and genetics play about a 40-60% role in the development in humans, evening out to about 50/50.

Do you think that same lowriding "thug" with a snapback wouldn't act that way, if he was white? :/

Like I said America's violence is at a 20 year low...so something has to be changing right?

And actually it is changing, for the worse. (thanks obama.) Black employment is at the lowest level in 17 years. (and no it's not because of just laziness. xP) But I say that to point out their is a problem happening, and it plays a much bigger part than you're acknowledging.

I'm not particularly sure if genetic has anything to do with behavior. But, my point is that. You're allow to acknowledge the differences between races, they exist. But my problem comes from stereotyping and generalizing all of them, and assuming one race is superior or inferior to another. Environmental change drastically changes your respective on life.

It's kind of difficult to outright discussion that part though. Because it's another thing people don't necessarily know.

But I guess kind of furthest I can really go. I'd just lament that being overtly prejudiced won't be particularly helpful in real world.

Appreciate the conversation.