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@Andreyich (Well I know something I say, is bound to piss someone off. So *fingers crossed*. So here I go.)

It was just shit on the street, muggings, getting pushed off my bike, etc.

New York.

It all makes sense.

Bloomberg thinks his citizens are too stupid to drink for themselves, yet they still have some of the most pride for the state by far. So you'll have to take that into account...

I jest. But okay, yeah being a drunkard in places like New York is probably asking for trouble...

Boston, MA crime rate is 45% higher than the Massachusetts average. So I don't know what to say about violence, other than you picked bad places to be. :/

"Texas, Boston and New York with the amount of crime witnessed or experienced increasing in that order." "Whilst cough others cough tend to commit more crime."

So blacks right? Well by the logic from personal experiences, logically the places with more percentage of black would have higher crime rates then right? 1. New York (most crime.) 2. Boston (2nd) 3. Texas (3rd/least.) By you're own admission. So let's just wiki that.

Blacks Percentage
Texas 2,979,598 11.91%
Massachusetts 528,761 8.1%
New York 3,073,800 15.18%

Well those stats don't add up. Because Texas has almost the same total and yet they don't seem to commit any more crimes. :/

Though I've seen reports that the south, that has more blacks and subsequently more crime. Yet western California is number one in violent crime. And they only have a 6% percent amount of them.

So maybe it's less the race, vs the political/financial backgrounds of those particular places? Food for thought.

Also though Texas does certainly have a high crime rate, I can goddamn guarantee it's not caused by the black population. *cough* illegals *coughs*

According to DPS criminal history records, those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 266,000 convictions including 496 homicide convictions; 26,565 assault convictions; 8,411 burglary convictions; 34,929 drug convictions; 246 kidnapping convictions; 18,851 theft convictions; 22,644 obstructing police convictions; 2,011 robbery convictions; 2,906 sexual assault convictions; and 3,707 weapons convictions. Of the convictions associated with criminal alien arrests, over 177,000 or 66% are associated with aliens who were identified by DHS status as being in the US illegally at the time of their last arrest.

And that's not even a jab at the "race", but the poor culture bought over by people not wanting to integrate.

But yes, I'm not ignorant to the facts. Black crime is high, especially Black on Black crimes. But you have to look a bit deeper than the shallow end with that...

It's not simply due to race at all.

Gang Violence, is the problem and cause most of the crimes and homicides etc.

As many as 1 million gang members are believed responsible for as much as 80 percent of crime in America -- and the gangs are spreading across the country, according to a Justice Department gang threat assessment.

Approximately "1 million gang members belonging to more than 20,000 gangs were criminally active within all 50 states and the District of Columbia as of September 2008," the report says.

"Criminal gangs commit as much as 80 percent of the crime in many communities, according to law enforcement officials throughout the nation," the report notes as part of its key findings. "Typical gang-related crimes include alien smuggling, armed robbery, assault, auto theft, drug trafficking, extortion, fraud, home invasions, identity theft, murder and weapons trafficking."

And gangs aren't solely represented by a single race...

The most recent figures provided by law enforcement are 46 percent Hispanic/Latino gang members, 35 percent African-American/black gang members, more than 11 percent white gang members, and 7 percent other race/ethnicity of gang members.

And hell according to this, blacks aren't even the TOP percentage of people IN gangs.

So clearly, there's a little more going on...not just race. But where they grew up, and the politics and propaganda that they learn about in their cultures. There's a few more factors at play that I think you might want to consider before assuming an entire race is predisposed to violence. Maybe like racism and most (to use their word) problematic things aren't something you're born with. But learned.

But you don't live in America. So I'm not entirely sure if I can explain much clearer than that or go more in depth. ^-^'

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@Andreyich

AND that was the only crime I ever experienced there. Despite the extremely high poverty of Eastern Europe I've only been beaten thrice and twice it was kind of my own fault for being a drunkard. In America I've had shit stolen from me repeatedly, and also got in a few fights.

Okay, from just that example. In Europe you were beaten, not just assaulted, but beaten...but it sounds like bar brawls? So that leads to is this where all the crime is taking place? When your drunk? You get drunk a bar and when you wake up the next morning your money is missing? Cuz uh, I have explanations for that. :P

Where in America was this exactly? And you consider yourself "racist", but racist toward what exactly? Or is it a wide range of things?
<.<

Because america isn't getting more violent. Violent crime has fallen by 51 percent since 1991, and property crime by 43 percent. In 2013 the violent crime rate was the lowest since 1970. And many places of Europe have higher burglary/theft and assault crimes. Like I think I know where this is going, and I'll comment about it when we cross that road.

But I've been assaulted and mugged as well, but I'm not sure if it changed any of my social or political opinions. I guess aside from most crime isn't punished well enough. <.<

What Are You Listening To?

Hope this upcoming album isn't a sophomore slump.

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@Vilageidiotx The debates are boring and you're missing nothing. :P

Well someone brought it up passingly, someone else engaged in discussion. So of course it was bound to be debated over. <.<

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@Vilageidiotx Never heard of them. ^3^ How do you know about them?

Well personally the one major thing I could see stopping Trump from reelection going to war or continuing all the drone strikes. It certainly drew a lot of ire from his own side from the attack that wasn't explained. Also I'd consider both of them to be utter disasters. (and Obama literally pretty much did everything Bush did but worse.) But I guess throwing that aside.

Do you think he'll be elected regardless of success? Because we can't seem to just elect someone once and switch them out? "We need 8 yearz bruh!" mindset that we almost seem cursed with two term presidents. Like whether I like someone or not, I'm really certain having two term presidents are particular helpful to them or us or the country. It's pretty obvious being president drains your mental and physical health, and most people can't deal with that pressure. So doesn't it kind of seem like were giving these people a well paid death sentence? Among other things. <.< I dunno, maybe that's just me.

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@IceHeart Well let me be the first to say, a third party vote isn't 'throwing it away to insert party here'. Maybe it is a protest vote, but you still did vote. Better than nothing. Though as someone who didn't vote Trump. Did the um, slight over reactions that continued until possibly still, for the other side, make you reconsider things? I know it did for many others. Even my very left leaning brother found it pretty embarrassing.

I suppose I do think one of the major reasons he was elected is that a lot of people didn't see him as a politician. And whether you like him or not. This was the first president who won in quite a long time, who got and spent far -less- money campaigning. So I do think that's at least a good thing, as a message that money won't always win you the election. I will say if more people did vote third party, I think it might actually make the other sides actually try harder...because it would be actual competition. Like if some kind of 3rd party, strictly minority right groups party existed. I could easily see Kayne running under this label. I'd wonder how that would be responded to and if it could be well received. (Kayne or not.) But that's my own conjecture...

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Although I already covered this in enough detail to make the point. Let me restate.

Imagine you don't take in enough calcium. As a result you begin to develop hypocalcemia.

A lot gets done and no decision is made by you as to how it happens.

@Penny

Not to get into if free will or whatever to call it, is real or not. But this seems a bit A + B = Clear to me. Not the best analogy you could have chosen. That person didn't take calcium, that person could of done that and not developed that. I don't want to pick a mere example apart.

So is the study implying that health and certain things 'can't' be controlled by us. So therefore we can't have free will because it states we control what happens? Because that seems a little silly to me.

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... the post.

@Dinh AaronMk

A single closing statement I made at midnight. Communism doesn't exist because of capitalism. Poverty in China isn't because of America. If you think otherwise I don't know what to say.

I already said it sucks, so I'm not encouraging it. And now I'm questioning if the guy under communism would prefer getting taxed all his money at gunpoint. Or if that's suppose to imply people in those countries are being controlled by our government and NOT their fucking communism government...<.<

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@POOHEAD189 Woot. :3

Understandable. I think every party hasn't done the best job representing themselves. And politics aside, I can appreciate someone having enthusiasm. From what I consider a nightmarish election cycle. (not because of the candidates) but just everything. But I digress. >.<

And yeah the third party was pretty embarrassing that particular year. At least the ones that got coverage...

But come on now, Trump is a genius and doesn't make mistakes.



;P

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@Penny I dunno. Life and it's creation and meaning is even more complicated than politics. :P

I don't think so though. Moral nihilism (also known as ethical nihilism) is the meta-ethical view that nothing is intrinsically moral or immoral. For example, a moral nihilist would say that killing someone, for whatever reason, is neither inherently right nor inherently wrong. Though there's like a hundred versions of them...so that's a thing I learned.

Is Hedonism an ideology? I'm too tired to remember. >.> Though mentioning you want to make it good for others, I'm pretty sure goes against that and all forms of nihilism. I'm very interested in learning about ideologies and religions. But I'll admit I lack knowledge of them as a whole.

(I'm immediately thinking of Showbread "no sir nihilism is not practical", I think I need sleep. -.-)

Goodnight, everyone. Look forward to ranting at each other in the future. <3