SleepingSilence

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane Call it my progressive 6th sense. <.<

Also, yes traps are gay.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane You cried at me over an emoticon reference. You, and literally only you. Can not judge others for being easily irritated. :I

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Well tbh, if this bothered you enough to bring it up all this time later, its evident that you being kicked from my discord hurt your feelings more than mine. I quickly forgot about it.

@Dynamo Frokane

Well that's a preposterously stupid statement. Really now? You throwing a temper tantrum, subsequently committing an immediate action without reasonable action, warning or logic. Causing you to not be effected? Well obviously, I'm not the one that -did- anything to you.

Like an angry kid who runs into his brothers room, throws all his toys in the room and goes to his room to sleep. "Huh weird, I forgot and felt better even. So I must be in the right." No, that's called impulsive behavior, and you broke all your siblings sh*t. (INB4:You try to make an arduous connection to my example. Which has nothing to do with relationship or feeling, just equivalent to how you behave.)

I'm not mad, just disappointed.

Actually kind of just wanted to laugh at your boundless yet completely un-self aware immaturity for a bit. Because I still find it a little funny. ;D

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@catchamber You really like your boats don't ya? But exploding a nail bomb vest in the ocean, is probably not the best for the fish or water. And yeah, it's still literally against the law to kill yourself. Also, as a taxpayer. I wouldn't exactly want to foot the clean up crew bill. A random link of the frequent failed suicide attempted, even back in 2007. Cost a million dollars...(that whole part of my debate never once got countered, so it was basically acknowledging that it costs other money, a metric shit ton of it statistically. Though, that no longer makes it "only your choice/problem" now doesn't it?

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-467980/W…

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So...anyone want to have like an honest and real conversation about a political story or event?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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@SleepingSilence I went back and added the () in case you weren't able to figure out I was being sarcastic. (I hope that helps.)

@Penny

I honestly thought you meant, the blah blah blah, which I already pointed out as snark already. But I again would have given mild credit with my own snark. But, since its refering to "I wouldn't want old people to commit suicide by burning down their house with them inside, because I acknowledge there's potential danger." now I you've gotten me to question, which part was sarcastic? <.<' Because ( ) isn't used by me, for sarcasm. To clarify. It's suppose (or well I usually use it) to separate thoughts. Like "I hope that helps", works fine with snark.

The statement you gave was hyperbolic, sure. But there was no irony or "'the weather's fine' while drippin wet" sarcasm present. It basically just said. 'You wouldn't want people to use a more destructive methods of suicide. ' So...did you -not- mean that?

You did specify, in your previous argument, which by the by, you didn't say it was a personal believe. You thought it was already in law. That we had a right to kill ourselves. And that you couldn't stop people, nor even judge them because suicide wasn't PC enough term for you, from jumping into traffic and jumping from your school or work building so everyone can see it. <.<'

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Penny *finger snaps* Well maybe some other time. Have a good night.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Penny *reads first sentence* Thank you. I usually do at least put effort in doing so. Everyone can be an ass, but not everyone has the self awareness and effort it takes to craft such lines... :3 *reads the rest* Oh dammit, it wasn't snark, it was an actual serious position...like you're on a pedestal shouting moral critique from on high.

Black pots calling kettles black, inside their glass houses. When it comes to misrepresentation and everything else you're accusing me of. (if you don't remember that conversation, in your own words, there's a lot of that.)

Also you "unintentionally" misquoted me, by adding blah blah blah. Which again, you were actually trying to take moral high ground for a misrepresentation, which I didn't do and you haven't proved...

If you wanted to just be snarky, you could have at least added ( ) to imply some kind of separation. I digress.

But thank you for posting things all at once? (For my fake mantra of the day: Don't bitch about something, if you can't mention self-improvement.)

Here I'll start again, clearing all possible sarcasm and ask you a simple question regarding something in this topic that actually can be debated:

You mentioned the tumblr genders being real. Well please, since I haven't heard such elaboration. Please tell me all these genders. Explain the scientific backing of them...

genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender

Take as much time as you need.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Penny There's other posts that seem to imply you'd be more than okay to tear apart established rules in law and culture. Like biology. It's not even that out of left field, many people want to destroy America's current culture, because they believe it's patriarchal and etc etc. So stripping america of what made it america is a tactic, plenty want and are actively using.

*Progressives

The damage property was something just now added. So that does change the original given stance. (and you still didn't include, harm others for a reason I hope was related to effort, not thought.) But it's so obviously contradictory because bombs, are obviously bound to cause damage. A non-harming exploding vest is an absurd oxymoron.

So, foregoing getting back into that topic. It wasn't a claim and statement based in reality.

Edit: Also, while re-reading, I completely blanked out that I had this conversation with several others. Some who make equally ludicrous claims. So preemptive apology, if it feels like I'm putting a target on your back. At least, you didn't say "Oh, not all suicide is bad..."(though you may have thumbed it up.) Hmm...

Digimin rp idea

@AcetheKidd Well if that's the case, perhaps you should @ all people involved. If you know that you can do this. Hopefully life was well straightened out for you.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I guess this is that one time in a thousand you are mistaken.

A. I dont want to dismantle society.

B. Yes all gender identifications are equally valid.

C. I feel I'm fairly unambiguous most of the time. I will be happy to clarify a non zero and non infinite number of points for you.

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Hey I found the original quote! Turns out I was responding to a post from you and I was discussing the right of individuals in general to kill themselves. Suicide bombers being a subset of people and all. I'm sure you didn't mean to take what I said out of context.

@Penny

1. While it certainly wasn't focus and that idea seems contradictory to other points I remember you making. I concede, you brought it up. (Though, you absolutely did not elaborate or go into detail on such.)

Bring us ever closer to that glorious day when the moribund edifice they call 'society' comes crashing down!

@Penny

2. Forgive my wording, would have been more accurate to say you want a dismantled society thus removing the personal activism/effort that would come with such claims. So yes, not you personally doing so. But you yourself cheered on the idea of the downfall of current society.

3. I don't mean to be a prick, most of the time, but then can you perhaps admit a Nazi to you. Isn't just used as a dictionary definition, if not by you personally. (though if gender can mean anything, why not another label?) Then certainly plenty of others do so. I'm not necessarily trying to turn my nose at you for burning any bridge, rather than attempting to first mend a relationship that skews to political extremism. But, merely pointing out that obvious contradiction of that confusion.

Just read that line you posted again, even without context. It's so clearly -not- the first/inciting statement you made regarding suicide bombings. Because "so, no I don't have to backtrack" is there, which clearly indicates that the line itself is you attempting to defend a previous statement. And with how you respond, likely not exactly very clear on top of that.

But EVEN then, you're already going back on the statement you've said. In that line's case, you say everyone has the right to off themselves even suicide bombers. While now, correctly, if not pointlessly/missing the point in the process, mention that possession of such device is likely illegal and therefore isn't a valid way to commit suicide. :/

So I didn't misquote you. I may have paraphrased with mildly snarky hyperbole, but it wasn't any less vague and absolutely morally broken and reason shattering of a thing to say.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I was actually arguing for medically assisted suicide after appropriate counseling. Killing yourself with a bomb would violate laws that regulate the possession of explosives.

All that aside how does it make it difficult for you to understand why I would rather not brunch with Nazis?

@Penny

I'm like 99.99% percent certain counseling on your end was literally -never- brought up once. In fact your argument seemed to be to disregard outside ideas and thoughts on the matter entirely. So if you finally know how terrible tHAT sounded, kudos. And yes, the law about bomb possession, that's the sole reason it would be a sticky situation.

I've already explained several times. With posts that were obviously not read or even fully scanned over. Which is why I didn't want to go in the circles this is clearly heading in.

I doubt the credibility of the term "Nazi" when the radical left have called everyone Nazi's. Also, it isn't a stretch to think you water down terminology. When you A. Want to dismantle society. B. Think all tumblr genders are valid terms. C. Has repeatedly used loose wording, without any attempt at clarification. So why wouldn't I question your distinction of a Nazi label?