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Caster needs a master, if anyone is interested?


Sonja maybe? Then again the calm and collected Daedalus might be a funny pairing with the Master in development who, I can only assume, will be a very feisty redhead going by the pics so far provided.
@Grey from what I am aware of, Daedalus isn't going to be making a Master.


Yes I believe that's what I remember him saying as well (I think at least...)
@vFear@Vocab@MeteorD Okay! Kintoki, Gerard, and Olympia have all been accepted and added to the character tab. You are free to discuss potential pairings (though I personally would like to see Olympia and Gerard partner up in a Caster & Ryuunosuke sorta way lol)!

All we're waiting on right now is Rider, Lancer, and three more Masters.
@Turboshitter Sounds great. I've modified the character sheet to fit, namely by dropping the Endurance to B- to fit the middle ground between B and C that you've asked for.


Alright, just let me finish watching WestWorld and I'll add today's new applicants to the tab ;P
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I was speaking more in line about Gun NPs specifically. As I said earlier, guns have less mystery. They're generally weaker because they're usually more modern. It goes to the core rule that Older = Stronger.

That being said, I'm only trying to provide further insight as to how to balance Gun NPs, and I'm not trying to insinuate that all guns should basically be Airsoft Guns compared to dudes who chuck swords.


Ah, okay. I misunderstood you. Yeah, balancing gun NPs can be... tricky.
@Turboshitter Of course. To answer your questions:

1: I don't imagine a bullet being able to kill a servant even with a direct hit to something important, if not just for balancing issues alone. I imagine that a bullet would travel faster than an arrow and the reload is both hands-free and autonomous, so a standard bullet being able to kill would probably be ludicrous, even on top of the reduced range from the pre-flintlock firearm. As for mages.. well, that's maybe a bit more ambiguous? Convenience as suiting the plot, anatomy/hit locations, etc?

2: From what I understand from the wiki, the difference is that Unyielding is a reduced effect from physical and mental damage, whereas Continuation is taking something that might knock him out on grounds of being too injured to fight well, effectively giving the opponent a hella advantage, and still being up to scratch; although being a B rank, mortal would still be mortal.

3: I'm happy to drop Endurance if you'd prefer it.


If you drop Endurance to maybe B or C, I'll let you keep Unyielding Will and Rank B B.C. Sound good? :)
oh hey an archer who doesn't use a bow

now it's really a holy grail war


oh my god grey stop you're killing me here xD
Guns tend to be weaker in Nasuverse because they have less mystery compared to a trusty archer's bow and swords definitely arrows. Plus, they're seen as a defining symbol of the Modern Age

EDIT: The reason why Lancelot's bullets hurt is due to Knight of Owner


Yes, but these pistols are Noble Phantasms as well, and ones of a higher rank than the ones produced by Knight of Owner, so the same lethality would in theory apply. At least that's what I assume, anyway. I could be wrong. There are a lot of other Servants with guns nowadays who don't seem nearly as lethal, so I was hoping @vFear could tell us where Gerard stands.
lowkey wanna replay f/sn vn but lowkey don't wanna commit another 50+ hours.

at least heavens feel movies are meant to exist soon.


I spent hours trying to get Wine to work the first time I played F/SN and I have no desire to repeat the experience, unfortunately. Thank god for ufotable.

But yeah, I do have a few questions about Gerard before we proceeed~

1. How powerful would you say each bullet is? Can a single non-NP shot kill? Are they faster/harder to dodge than a normal Archer's arrows like Lancelot's bullets were?

2. What's the difference between Unyielding Will and Battle Continuation in practical terms? Keep in mind even Rank B in B.C. is pretty ludicrous:



(though admittedly that might be Lancer when he has Rank A in that skill as opposed to Kotomine's Rank C, I can't remember)

3. Are you dead-set on A+ Endurance? I mean I get this guy went through some shit, but... *eyes the above*

Of course Spartacus somehow has EX Rank Endurance so what the fuck do I know apparently :/
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