@Cojemo If you think you can handle it, I won't object (bonus points if you do Genghis Khan like KK was going to), but don't commit to anything you don't think you'll be able to keep up with, okay?
Turboshitter Member
Ubiquitous. Mendacious. Polyglottal.
- Last Seen: 1 mo ago
- Joined: 10 yrs ago
- Posts: 1765 (0.47 / day)
- VMs: 0
-
Username history
- Turboshitter 10 yrs ago
-
Latest 10 profile visitors:
-
Most recent →
Fish of Oblivion,
Lemons,
Shin Ghost Note
Status
User has no status, yet
Bio
User has no bio, yet
Most Recent Posts
@TurboshitterJust looked on Asuras's profile. He hasn't been on for two days. Any other plans?
None presently. Most people here aren't playing two characters though, so if Asuras and @KawaiiKyouko don't get back to us, we'll just have to have a few people double up.
@TurboshitterAlright then with him gone that means Asuras can join. It's unfortunate that Cojemo needs to leave but we can fix the hole rather easy. It's rider's spot that I'm holding doubts about now.
Indeed. I'm currently answering this on the pot at work though, so could you ping Asuras for me, @vancexentan? Also, sorry to see you go, @Cojemo. You will be missed, but I understand if life doesn't permit you to participate right now.
@TurboshitterTurbo you made a mistake in re-nerfing Mordred she has B+ not A strength.
Woops. My bad.
Alright, will add Pedro to the tab in the morning. In the meantime, have some dank memes:
On that note, probably best to do this publicly. @vancexentan, since some people have expressed concern about it (including you yourself), would you mind if we modified the parameters of Mordfed's fame boost? I have a few ideas for what we could do instead of an all-around stat buff:
Do any of these sound like an acceptable replacement?
- increase her rank in Charisma, or some other relevant skill
- increase one or two of her stats, but not all of them
- increase Clarent to Rank B (which we've already done), and lower her stats to their normal values; then, she can invoke Clarent for a temporary Rank Up in short bursts as per its unlocked effects (the effect would need to be activated and would last only a short while since the fame boost is only partial)
Do any of these sound like an acceptable replacement?
@TurboshitterSpeaking of Rider have we heard anything from the person who was making rider?
Nothing yet. I tagged them though, and if they haven't responded by tomorrow afternoon, I'll send a PM. If there's no word by Wednesday, we can tell Asuras the spot is open.
@Turboshitter@vancexentan
I explained on my previous/most recent (not counting this) post a few things in your requests, such as why skills like Innocent Monster aren't really qualifiable in Lancer's case, and the nature of Lancer's third NP in regards to his own horse. I will also further clarify that the Horse isn't the NP, but that the NP only takes effect on this specific horse. The reason why the horse is important is because this NP isn't supposed to be as reliable as it is if summoned as a Rider.
As for Lancer's first NP, I've clarified that those who fail the Luck check get a pretty hefty Agility rank-down to symbolize them being on their knees; they're slower, but it's the possibility to escape is alot higher. As for the quantification of the Luck Check, stat checks in Fate are pretty ambiguous as a whole, so it's hard to find a number for them. It'd probably entail the luck check equivalent to its Noble Phantasm Rank, which is B.
Granted, but I feel like there should at least be some justification for it, even if it's just cosmetic. I mean, people in modern times don't actually believe Vlad Tepes was a vampire, and no one I know thinks Elizabeth Bathory was part dragon. Yet they have those skills regardless because at one point in time, whether past or future, that's how they were perceived by a large number of people. If the natives believed he was a god, then he should qualify, regardless of the truth or what people believe about him today (or even what his own people believed about him, as demonstrated with Vlad).
As for his horse, I'll grant that. It's unconventional for a Lancer to have a summoned mount, but it's happened before on rare occasions and without the horse the NP loses a key weakness. The NP itself also can't be modified or removed without gouging out a large part of Pedro's legend.
However, I will insist on Innocent Monster or a low, low rank in Divinity (whichever you feel is more appropriate or justified), as his connection to the sun god needs to be explained and quantified in some fashion rather than just being an informal attribute. Also, I believe his Disengage should be a bit lower, because as it is, he's better at making an escape than our resident Assassin, and that seems wonky.
@TurboshitterI do honestly believe that the noble phantasm you're asking me about should be reworked to not include the horse and merely make it a mental pollution based noble phantasm that activates on pagan type characters when he is riding on a horse, or anything similar to one. He keeps it and he doesn't cross into rider territory. That's just the solution that immediately comes to mind.
That'd be for the best, probably. There will be plenty of horses and vehicles to acquire in Scotland (god only knows what this NP will make him look like when he's riding a motorcycle), and his Rank in Riding will go far in making them combat-ready.
Wow a lot sure can happen in the span of two episodes of GoT...
Okay, so. Given what you've said so far, @Cu Chulainn, I'm willing to allow his Conquistador stat buff so long as it works the way you've described. The Black Faction will have a specific base of operations in this RP, just like us, and so long as the boost only manifests when Pedro is literally storming the castle and inside the walls of the enemy stronghold (or within their Bounded Fields or other perimeter defenses). In that situation he will more than likely be outnumbered and beset on all sides by traps, familiars, and enemy magi on top of all their Servants, so if he's going to march towards either death or defeat, I'm willing to give the mad bastard my blessing for bravery, if nothing else.
However I'd like some quantification on the Luck check for his first NP, and I do think that instead of literally being forced to their knees (unless you were being metaphorical), they should just be encumbered with Rank Down in stats, as is the case for other mental interference skills.
Honestly, I have no issue with his Anti-Army NP, however I do suggest you incorporate Innocent Monster into your sheet as suggested, simply because Pedro needs justification for his association with the Aztec sun god and he doesn't actually have Divinity as you've explained.
As for his horse, normally I'd say he could just ride any old horse into battle with his Rank in Riding, but then that kinda just makes the NP more problematic as he loses the weakness of it disappearing with his horse. Truth be told I'm not quite sure what to do with it. It certainly seems like an NP better suited to a Rider class Servant, but it also ties heavily into the greatest part of Pedro's legend. Any further thoughts on the horse, @vancexentan?
Okay, so. Given what you've said so far, @Cu Chulainn, I'm willing to allow his Conquistador stat buff so long as it works the way you've described. The Black Faction will have a specific base of operations in this RP, just like us, and so long as the boost only manifests when Pedro is literally storming the castle and inside the walls of the enemy stronghold (or within their Bounded Fields or other perimeter defenses). In that situation he will more than likely be outnumbered and beset on all sides by traps, familiars, and enemy magi on top of all their Servants, so if he's going to march towards either death or defeat, I'm willing to give the mad bastard my blessing for bravery, if nothing else.
However I'd like some quantification on the Luck check for his first NP, and I do think that instead of literally being forced to their knees (unless you were being metaphorical), they should just be encumbered with Rank Down in stats, as is the case for other mental interference skills.
Honestly, I have no issue with his Anti-Army NP, however I do suggest you incorporate Innocent Monster into your sheet as suggested, simply because Pedro needs justification for his association with the Aztec sun god and he doesn't actually have Divinity as you've explained.
As for his horse, normally I'd say he could just ride any old horse into battle with his Rank in Riding, but then that kinda just makes the NP more problematic as he loses the weakness of it disappearing with his horse. Truth be told I'm not quite sure what to do with it. It certainly seems like an NP better suited to a Rider class Servant, but it also ties heavily into the greatest part of Pedro's legend. Any further thoughts on the horse, @vancexentan?
© 2007-2024