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The Serene Church is completely player made and controlled, by no means the default. Also the Serene One is of no gender.


My stance will change as the player-made stance changes. Keep me informed.
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@Terminal The other system of belief is fairly free form and (as of right now) has no established orthodoxy. The two defining components of it is that the primordials were/are living gods and that the Prophetess was of a divine nature.
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@Terminal The other system of belief is fairly free form and (as of right now) has no established orthodoxy. The two defining components of it is that the primordials were/are living gods and that the Prophetess was of a divine nature.


Sounds pretty close to Tarkiman Beliefs. Before their disappearance, a group of Primordials and their children had ruled over Tarkima as a Pantheon of Living Gods. Afterwards, many believe they had simply ascended into a higher plane, preparing a Valhalla-like paradise. I'd imagine there may be slight disagreements regarding the Prophetess.

And no doubt @Goldeagle1221's church will also have influence in Tarkima, many Tarkimans renouncing their old faith to the Old Gods and switching over to the Church.

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Sounds pretty close to Tarkiman Beliefs. Before their disappearance, a group of Primordials and their children had ruled over Tarkima as a Pantheon of Living Gods. Afterwards, many believe they had simply ascended into a higher plane, preparing a Valhalla-like paradise. I'd imagine there may be slight disagreements regarding the Prophetess.

And no doubt @Goldeagle1221's church will also have influence in Tarkima, many Tarkimans renouncing their old faith to the Old Gods and switching over to the Church.


Just to be fair to creativity and to give credit where credit is due. @Aristo @Crispy octopus and @Solamelike are all co authors of the region and religion. All I did was the outline and general idea (of the church). We are currently working on our region histories!
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I think the subjugated humans of my nation would probably have been part of The Serene Church, which would add another nice religious tasting layer to their animosity towards their primordial worshiping rulers.
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@Terminal The other system of belief is fairly free form and (as of right now) has no established orthodoxy. The two defining components of it is that the primordials were/are living gods and that the Prophetess was of a divine nature.


If that is the case, I imagine the Empire would have to reject that outright. They have an ill history with Primordials and hold them in some contempt, far prior to the unification of the three Kingdoms.

I still cannot say whether or not they would have worshipped the Serene one though. I would need some kind of timeline on the Serene church. @Goldeagle1221
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@DracoLunaris So since we're neighbors, I should let you know that Tarkima has been known historically to be a general pain in the ass to your nation, monkey's nation, and whoever else will take the empty spot south of me. A land of raiders, pirates and barbarians who's past time is of course, raiding, pillaging and the occasional invasion :P
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If that is the case, I imagine the Empire would have to reject that outright. They have an ill history with Primordials and hold them in some contempt, far prior to the unification of the three Kingdoms.

I still cannot say whether or not they would have worshipped the Serene one though. I would need some kind of timeline on the Serene church. @Goldeagle1221


We are currently working on the history. I can say that primordials are not looked upon highly in the church or its history, and for that matter not very highly at all in the regional history of the "Serene Lands" (All the church players lands put together)
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Here's what I got so far for my sheet.
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We are currently working on the history. I can say that primordials are not looked upon highly in the church or its history, and for that matter not very highly at all in the regional history of the "Serene Lands" (All the church players lands put together)


For the moment my actual OOC concern is that everyone seems to be jumping into the Serene Church bandwagon, which would rather defeat the point. That aside though, could you comment on the Serene church's opinion on Andromache's triple regicide as a base commoner and the fluid nature of the Imperial caste system?
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@DracoLunaris So since we're neighbors, I should let you know that Tarkima has been known historically to be a general pain in the ass to your nation, monkey's nation, and whoever else will take the empty spot south of me. A land of raiders, pirates and barbarians who's past time is of course, raiding, pillaging and the occasional invasion :P


expect to be repaid in kind by my imperialistic trees.
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@DracoLunaris Sounds like good fun!
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For the moment my actual OOC concern is that everyone seems to be jumping into the Serene Church bandwagon, which would rather defeat the point. That aside though, could you comment on the Serene church's opinion on Andromache's triple regicide as a base commoner and the fluid nature of the Imperial caste system?


I can't just yet. We are all still laying down the groundwork for exceptions, mandates, law and relations throughout history. I'll keep you posted. As per concern on the number of members, I wouldn't worry too much. There is plenty of diversity and while the church plays heavy in politics it is still very much like the 13th and 14th century churches of real life, where governance still had sovereignty and flexibility. If anything it makes the immediate serene region more gradual, fluid and realistically related.

@sigma you wanted church presence in your nation? If it is official presence, such as structured churches and related hierarchies then you most likely have an Archbishop and can (if you want to) join the little ooc council to help decide some past decisions of the High Council. If it is more casual or protestant then no need.
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@Goldeagle1221 Thinking more causal, at most, there's a few converted minor clans, nothing too major or anything.
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@Goldeagle1221 Thinking more causal, at most, there's a few converted minor clans, nothing too major or anything.


Sounds good. So like missionaries and stuff? Local priests ordaned by traveling bishops?
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Sounds good. So like missionaries and stuff? Local priests ordaned by traveling bishops?

Yup, exactly that :)

And looks like I got new shores to raid!
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The Grogar are back!

Yup! Back and ready to wreak havoc :P

Is your nation the same one before or something different?
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