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The year is 2015 the next holy grail war was about to start once more with the church, and mage association preparing to take on new masters, and heroic spirits they were naively blinded by the fact that there were still people out there who were willing to exploit the grail. Many years have past since the Fuyuki Grail War, and with the loss of the greater grail more smaller grail wars had been propping up all over. A small faction in Poland known as the Grey Family have summoned several servants in violation of the Grail War's rules. It's their intent with this current move is unknown but the Grey Family were known as mage supremacists who believe that magi should rule the world not the common people, and it is speculated they wish to use the servants, and the grail in order to win over the world to their way of thinking. They have held fast in a castle forming battle strategies as the mage association prepares itself to deal with the threat. While standard grail wars were done by a servant to servant basis fighting in singles combat until one group remains

Scouts sent to deal with threat were met with swift brutal retaliation and as such the only way to deal with this threat is to summon more servants to combat the 'Red' Faction. Met with fierce resistance initially the mages association has finally come to a conclusion that the threat in question must be dealt with. As such they had sent calls to several different magi be it allies of the Association, or mercenaries. The church has also proclaimed it's support for the Mage Associations 'Black' Faction as the brutality of Red has proven both disgusting, and an insult to the rules of the grail war. Hoping to wipe out the enemy faction the mages are gathering in London to summon their servants. The clocktower magi in London seek to assist the mages in their attempts at destroying Red Faction before they arrive in Poland in order to defeat enemy summoners. Ruler has said to have already arrived in Poland to await what is to happen. However there is more than just a grail war looming over the heads of the magi for when they fight in Poland something doesn't seem quite right even more so than usual. With dark clouds in the horizon will Black Faction be able to overcome the Red Faction's power?

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Hello everyone this is a typemoon roleplay based somewhat heavily off Fate/Apocrypha but it is not a complete rip off it. There will be no characters like Sieg entering the midst, there will be plenty of differences compared to the anime/book, and other changes may be implemented. None of the canon characters/servants will be involved minus perhaps the servants who are allowed within power limits (characters like Gilgamesh (Archer/Adult), and Heracles/Hercules (god hand like abilities are too strong to allow into the roleplay. Because you can't hurt them without a B+ or A ranked Noble Phantasms, and you have to do it multiple times in Herc's case). To make clear servants with high stats are allowed characters with broke abilities aren't.



I'd like people to keep in mind that I can allow nerfs to allow some characters like Lancer Cu Chulainn in as he has an instant kill move that hits a person's heart I can't let that sort of move fly. Yes this takes away from some servants but here is my counter point: What's the point of a powerful opponent when you just fling your nigh unblockable time space bending spear through their heart? If you're unsure, or need help picking/making a servant you may ask me and I will do what I can to help. This is a roleplay after all I need to make sure things are at least relatively fair.

I know no one likes nerfs but this is a rp. The point is to tell a story. Fate, and its universes are rather unbalanced and I am ATTEMPTING to bring some sort of balance into it.



Any other questions you have may go below. If you're interested say so below.
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Hey there I'm quite interested!
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Hey! I have recently gotten into Fate and interested in joining, but I am pretty new to this site as well so I dont have 50 posts stacked in yet (a rather pitiful 9). May I join in once I pull that number up?
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Still interested, might wait to see who does what before choosing my servant.
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@vancexentan So sorry didn't notice the amount of posts needed, can I do the same and join after I have enough stacked up?
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@GoMachLike I said to the other guy sure. I have nothing against new roleplayers. I'm just tired of random trolls.
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@vancexentan It's less a troll issue and more a issue of people making a few posts and then never returning. It can hurt an RP that needs dedicated players.
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Another player came online, and told me that two or three people were purposely making those accounts to try, and derail the game my dude. But that's in the past we should focus on newer player right now.
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Hi, I'm around.
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@vancexentan I always wanted to RP with you and now's the perfect moment. I don't wanna let you down.

You never said anything about Caster Gilgamesh so I was wondering if he's banned too. If yes I'll be apping my good ol' Diarmuid and if not I got lots of ways of nerfing him such as the stats depending on his Master.
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@IndraI'm not sure about Caster Gil he's not particularly powerful in terms of strength but he still has access to some stuff that may be suspect. Diarmuid is fine as long as the curse is nerfed down to a day, or two instead of all encompassing until his spear breaks. That way you still keep your spear without me having to juggle enemy servants who can only use their right leg to move.
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As far as I know, Caster Gil is more or less just as broken, still having all the NPs in his vault but just favouring the magic wands over the others. He also actually uses Gilgamesh's EX ranked future sight NP, which sounds really hard to run in an rp where we can't predict who's going to do what.
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I'm pretty sure Caster Gil is stuck to a limited part of the vault. He had to die, and change to archer to get full access to his vault in Babylon. But that still makes him pretty strong.
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@vancexentan What kind of Servant rank are we looking for? Like are we looking for high tier servants with an emphasis on direct combat, or are you looking for more diverse servants who might create interesting team dynamics, rather than being strong bruisers?

Because I have a few options. Could always do Louis XVII as an Avenger. Or Roland as a Saber. Or Emperor Jimmu, or Caílte mac Rónáin if we're aiming for more B-A tier instead of A+ tier.
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I'm not sure how much weaker Caster Gil is- he doesn't seem to have Enuma Elish. What really makes Gil broken in any form though is that he has basically any Noble Phantasm you can think of, so he could pull out magic wands that inflict wounds that never heal, or cause instant death or whatever.

And yeah I'd like to know how good we should be too. It says high stats are okay but broken abilities aren't, so are really high-class brute force guys like Arthur, Achilles, and Sigurd acceptable?
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@Reflection Avenger is an extra class, and based off evil corruption in the grail thus would not be allowed. It would significantly change the plot. I'm looking for servants that can hold their own while not being overtly broken. For example Fergus, Diarmuid, Cu, Ushiwakumaru, Beowulf, and others would be fine. They're increasingly strong while not inherently being able to instantly murder people like most Hassans, or tank indefinitely against top tier servants like Siegfried.

Saber is in a grey zone. She's top tier as a servant not because she's strong on her own but because her kit is increasingly standard but ridiculous in execution. She dodged Kojiro, a servant who fought Heracles, in his own preferred territory, and also predicted his phantasm's ability which would've killed her. Plot armor saved her but her luck is so high she feasibly has a chance to actually survive an unnerfed Cu Chulainn's phantasm which instantly hits, and more than likely instantly kills the enemy. Arthur has the same kit except he's strong against beasts too.

Achilles isn't acceptable. He's literally Siegfried levels of tank. You can't kill him without a high level phantasm. I'm aiming for a grail war using less powerful servants I'd figure you'd know this by now seeing as you've been in most of the former iterations of this rp. @ManyThings Sigurd is also a bit too ridiculously buff he has dragon core, and mage runes.

If we're looking at Sabers Mordred's level is roughly equivalent to what is acceptable. She has incredibly tank skills, and abilities but they're not at the level of her father while still being heavily destructive.
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@ManyThings@vancexentan
Hmm... there's always best doggo Cu Chulainn and he already has bad luck to begin with and anyone can counter Gaebolg given the right circumstances.
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@IndraCu is fine as long as he takes one of two nerfs: Either a null to the always hit clause, or allow me to pick, and choose if the curse actually effects the opponent. Chucking instant kill spears every encounter is silly.
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Yeah cool, I'm not planning to play Cu either. I just wanted a better idea of the kinds of characters you want, since you said you didn't like mine last time. Admittedly that Lancer I made was a weird one.
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