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@Mr Allen J
I think i am done, tell me if i need to add something else. Or if shit's too op.

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Welp, I see I crit-failed my spot check. Goodness, it's literally in giant red letters. :P
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@Keksalot Okay, this sheet's gonna need a little bit of work.

1). Literally the first thing I thought while reading the sheet is that there's a loooooooooooooot of run-on sentences. I mean, seriously, use periods more instead of commas because a lot of the sentences drags on, and on, and on and it looks really unprofessional. Look up a few grammar guides about it.

2). How in the hell can he dodge bullets? Even with the quickest reaction timing, it won't mean shit if you don't have the speed to move your body. And even that sounds sketchy.

3). Okay, I really think that you went overboard with the power. For starters, I think you gave him waaaaaaaaaay too many abilities under the pretense of "lol master scientist." You pretty much told me he can do anything he wants, and is pretty much unkillable. None of his power follows any thematic, and I don't really get how he can even do half the things he can (Even under the "master scientist" pretense, not too much of it makes sense). Not to mention the fact that you gave him zero weaknesses and limits.

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1) Noted, will edit.

2) Dodging bullets sounds retarded in the retrospect, yes.

3) His power is literally "Supernatural understanding and manipulation of biology". His powers do follow a theme, which is well, things that you can do with biology and all things that he can do stem from him surgically altering his body in accordance to his desires, being able to do so thanks to his almost better-than-perfect understanding of all things that directly relate to living creatures and processes in their bodies. I guess i should've actually noted the major weakness he has, which is the fact that new organs don't appear instantly and invasive surgeries don't happen in a blink of an eye - though of course for him they DO take much less time than for any modern doctor or scientist. As such, needs time and some equipment for the truly outrageous exploits. The analogy can be drawn with the Iron Man, for example. Tony Stark is a genius engineer, who makes himself into a wondrously powerful flying brick thanks to the power armours and it's gadgets that he crafted. Same thing here, only instead of making a powered armour with electrically-stimulated myomer bundles Gutmadder grows and grafts to himself incredibly dense and powerful muscle.
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@Keksalot But, you're missing the part where I'm saying it's incredible overpowered. Let's put this in perspective for you: he essentially has biokinesis (Can control all aspects of the human body), can control people (which is a banned power), reanimate the dead, generate bioelectricity, control metahuman energy such as taking away powers, enhancing them, and giving them to unpowered people (Which goes into a whole new powerset altogether), he can make himself immune to contaminants, impervious to pain, give himself super strength, and super durability, faster than light reflexes, can produce poisons/drugs/etc and has a last resort super poison that will kill everyone in the city (Which is a big no).

The other characters can control glass, turn intangible, teleport, etc.

You've essentially given him every form of superpower out there, and a lot of these abilities would be strong enough on their own. Even under the idea that he has a perfect understanding of science; how is he able to do any of this? Understanding science, and preforming the feats that you have listed, are two separate things. Because a lot of these aren't "understanding" anything, they're just superpowers. Even if he needs "time and equipment," that honestly isn't a major weakness at all - it's a limit (Not even a good one - let's be real here, when will that ever come into play...?).

I already got a few complaints from the other players about how it's super OP.

Just give some of the other characters a look if you want an idea of the powerlevel.
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Even under the idea that he has a perfect understanding of science; how is he able to do any of this? Understanding science, and preforming the feats that you have listed, are two separate things

His understanding of biology as i envisioned it is explicitly supernatural - beyond what even the best minds of modern science know at the moment. For example, you know how the middle-schoolers are taught about the recessive and dominant genes, alleles, mutant carriers and genetic "wild cards" because this is literally the only good and understandable GUESS that we have on how genetics work? Gutmadder knows how genes work EXACTLY, even though he probably can't explain it to others due to the natural limitations of human understanding and language. Sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic yadda-yadda.

But yes, i guess i've seriously overestimated the general powerlevel and really did make Bonesaw 2.0 OP as fuck. Sorry for like, doing this bullshit.

If i am still allowed to try again, i'd like to revert to Janwar - his power is syphoning heat from the enviroment at great speed in order to use the gained energy to speed up his natural regeneration or giving himself short boosts of superspeed/strength/stamina.
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@Keksalot Yes, you may make another character.

You weren't rejected or anything, just that Gutmadder needed a lot of work.
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Alright, here he is. Balancing the power was tricky, but I think I hit a pretty good balance of 'high ceiling, low floor'. I could be wrong, though.
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@TheWizardLizard Pretty interesting power, the sheet could use a little bit of spacing in between paragraphs to make it easier.
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Noted, I'll try and edit that in. I had to do an enormous amount of wrestling with the format to get the hider to work for some reason, so it's probably a bit ugly.

EDIT: I did it, and it didn't even explode a little! Look at that.
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@TheWizardLizard Good, he's accepted.
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Thanks mate. I'll get working on my second character in a little bit.
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Here is character six, I breezed through him in my spare time. I kind of like him. Though, I always feel bad if I make more than two really nice characters, than my usual brand. lol

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Posted my chars, thank god - that formatting is a fucking nightmare.
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Posted my chars, thank god - that formatting is a fucking nightmare.


I aim to please. :)
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Z-z-zing.
I want to maybe change his name to "Transsib(erian Railway)" because he is really good at very quickly transporting you to very, very cold places.

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@Keksalot Hmmmm...

1). Those weaknesses aren't really that, well, debilitating (If anything, they're weaknesses... for everyone around him lol). I mean, collateral damage is a weakness if he works in a team, but if he's pretty much immune to cold, then I don't see how they're really weaknesses - especially with the high power level he has. Possibly, you can say that his power wreaks havoc on his immune system/metabolism, or he can be cooled down (Which is logical). I'll come up with some more.

2). The Fiends attack took place in another city (Verthaven). lol

3). There are a few run-on sentences, but w/e. lol

He's still a step up power-wise and character-wise from your other character, so that's good. Just make a few adjustments.
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@Keksalot This is only my two-cents, in response to J's first point:

First off, besides area and time limitation, what about body limitation, such as a cap of how much heat he can absorb before he literally burns himself to ash? He's still a flesh and blood human being, not a humanoid inferno (for example, those with fire/lava/magma physiology). Also, absorbing heat doesn't make him immune to cold - in fact, it's quite the opposite: he has to keep absorbing heat to keep himself warm - which is to avoid cold, so as J has said it's logical for him to be weak against Metahumans with water- or ice-type abilities who are capable of cooling him down and make him lose those "stolen" heat. In a way, he's somewhat similar to pyrokinetics that he's more resistant to heat but weak against cold, not immune - like, there's no way he won't get burned by a pyrokinetic spamming him with a barrage of lava-hot fireballs (he can't possibly absorb the heat that fast enough).

Sure, the whole absolute zero thing sounds cool and all, but for him to be able to perform such a feat is a suicide move - overexertion/overuse of ability will lead to ashing, which is death to any Metahumans regardless of their power. Yes, I saw the "theoretically" word, but heat is constantly generated in nature as long as the particles are vibrating and interacting with one another. In science, so far absolute zero can only be achieved under controlled environment, so realistically it's extremely difficult to do that in an open place like our daily surroundings where heat energy can travel around freely.

I'm not sure what scale you're using for the temperature figures, but if it's -90°F (-68°C) and able to absorb so much heat to reach that low in only a couple of minutes is kinda stretching the limit. I mean, imagine going from a normal room temperature of, say, 77°F (25°C) to -90°F in a matter of 2 minutes... Can you imagine how much heat energy your character has just absorbed into his human body?

Ok, maybe you can argue that he uses these absorbed energy to augment his body, but again, he is a human, not a freaking god. Meaning, if you want him to be able to absorb heat that fast enough, then vice versa it's logical for him to lose that heat energy at a fast rate also in order to maintain his body temperature from overheating. Also, tissues can harden but they are still living cells not kelvar, so his enhancement doesn't make him bulletproof, just that a pistol shot won't be as painful as a snipe shot, for example.

Personally I feel that it's redundant (illogical) to have a "pocket dimension" to store the heat he has absorbed because you mentioned that his power is always active, always absorbing heat from around him but just that when he's passive it's at a slower rate than when he's actively taking in the heat. If you seriously want the pocket dimension idea, then you'll have to ditch the "always active" point. Either, or. You can't have both just because you need a backup plan in case he can't absorb heat that well in places with lower temperature (you even stated in your sheet that he has to always move to warmer places to maintain his power). See the irony there?
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Sure, the whole absolute zero thing sounds cool

He specifically can't reach the absolute zero as of now due to not being able to sustain his power for so long.

a cap of how much heat he can absorb before he literally burns himself to ash

I thought there would be no cap at all? This is a part of his power, gradually absorbing all of the heat into himself, all of it. And then, letting out no energy before he uses it to fuel his buffing powers. This particular type of heat just doesn't hurt him due to [metahuman energy shenanigans], like some firebenders can spew fire from their mouth or create intense and most horrible heat in very close proximity to themselves without getting burned. Either that, or all of heat that he siphons is simply converted into the metahuman energy at a VERY uneven exchange rate.

there's no way he won't get burned by a pyrokinetic spamming him with a barrage of lava-hot fireballs

He will be burned indeed, though the heat WILL be reduced to some degree and the damage will be further mitigated if he expends some of his energy towards the activation of a burst of super-durability.

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Actually, how about this variant:

He syphons heat the same way as before, but instead of being stored within him as-is, it is indeed turned into metahuman energy that, in turn, is expended towards giving him the typical "brick-man" powerset of mediocre regeneration and one of superstrength, superspeed or superdurability which he has to switch around. Trick is that if he draws in too much heat to be converted, his power automatically kicks into the ashing-inducing and exhausting "overdrive" and if he draws in too little, gets strongly cooled or remains too long (but much less than a normal person needs to freeze to death) in a very cold enviroment where it is hard for him to syphon any meaningful amount of energy, his own temperature will begin to fall and his body will begin to fail because due to the damage that brought him into coma his brain is unable to regulate his body heat automatically, as it happens with healthy humans. That, and without drawing outside energy in order to convert it, he does not produce enough metahuman energy for anything except syphoning heat.
Oh, and also due to his power always being on, even if on a very low level, he might be unable to spend a lot of time inactive, sleeping or otherwise resting, because in that case the slowly accumulated metahuman energy will make him ash sooner or later - so the guy has to constantly move, run, lift weights, train or expend his energy on something else to somewhat even out the income and expenditure of energy lest he wants bad things to happen.
Also i'll change his alias to "Redliner"
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