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@RumikoOhara He only has two actual weapons. He's basically Cybprg but with the added ability to fly. Not sure what there is to worry about.
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@RumikoOhara I'm here for you. I'm not well versed in DC comics so that's why I wanted to make an oc because I love teen titans.
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Luv OCs

Blondie is an OC all the way

@RumikoOhara I'm here for you. I'm not well versed in DC comics so that's why I wanted to make an oc because I love teen titans.


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@RumikoOhara See, in RP's like this, power levels are worthless anyway. Everything works on the "Rule of Narrative" which clearly states "If the narrative can't proceed without Character X defeating Character Y, then Character X WILL defeat Character Y." It's why Superman can work on a team with people, despite being the most powerful being in the universe.

As for Lanterns having a support system, the point of Martin is that he became a Lantern in a way that he was never made privy to the knowledge that there ARE multiple Lantern Corps. As far as he's concerned, there is 1 ring of each colour. He is THE Gold Lantern and i think it's gonna be fun to RP him working with others and finding this out.
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The gm is telling you no. S/he is asking you to make a different character because s/he doesn't want to see lanterns/supers. Please keep in mind what they say because they are the one leading this rp. If you can't abide by their rules and what they're asking you to do, then I highly suggest you look elsewhere to rp.
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For what it’s worth (which probably isn’t a lot), but I got to side with @RumikoOhara on this one. Lantern Rings are one of the most powerful weapons in the Universe, and each Lantern Corp keeps pretty close tabs on them. Making it almost impossible for a full set to be on earth, and not be known to the other Green Lanterns (Hal, Guy and John).
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The Lanterns do have a basic set of rules they abide by.. and the fact they do normally kidnap new members moment they activate the ring for the first time to train them how to use their powers and teach them the job essentially since some of the rings can corrupt or kill their user very easily.
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@Sonnenschein If you need any help working on your oc lemme know, I'll be happy to help.

@RumikoOhara I'm confident Ty has an answer that will satisfy.
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@Sonnenschein I'm not saying that i won't abide by the GM's decision, but i do feel compelled to make a decent argument for my case and if that still doesn't work, then yes, i will happily leave you all to it.

@Sanity43217 And again, I hate it whenever anybody says something like that in here. I've been playing on sites like this for 12 years and if that has taught me anything, it's that there is one simple rule of power in every Freeform RP like this:

"Limiting the powers of your characters doesn't limit the amount of overpowered characters. Because there are no overpowered characters, just people who play their characters as overpowered."

An overpowered character is one that won't be defeated by any means and that really comes down to how a player plays their character. Again, you simply have those that follow the simple rule of narrative and those who don't. If you follow the rule of narrative, then you can play any character in any situation, because you will know to go down when you need to in order for your and other peoples stories to work. If you can't, then you are not going to go down, regardless of what power you have, because you'll find literally any way to BS your way out of danger, because "My character isn't a loser who loses, he's a winner who wins every single time without fail" and that's when it all breaks down. Trust me, i've had to kick enough people from RP's or asked that they be kicked because they just don't know how to fucking go down when the narrative needs them to. Hell, one guy did this so bad that i actually banned "Any powers related to "Shadow Manipulation" from every powered RP i did, until i realized that rule above. "It doesn't matter what powers he had, he would have found SOME way to do that shit."

As for Lantern Rings, you gotta remember that there are thousands of each of them flying about and, if you've ever read a Lantern comic, you will know that they can quite easily get stolen or simply vanish without a trace. That's hell, that's how Mongol almost took over the Yellow Lanterns. That's how Sinestro and Atrocitus were able to found the Yellow and Red Lantern corps, respectively, to begin with, that's how Scar was able to create the Black Lanterns. "Stole Lantern technology and hid it long enough to replicate it." Way i see it. Sinestro stole the technology and hid it for long enough before, i'm sure that he can do it again. Granted, this time, he doesn't have Paralax's help, but he is very intelligent.
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@mattmanganon An overpowered character in RP's like this are also characters whose very existence forcefully alter established characters/lore in a way that contradictsthe core of them.

For instance, a normal human child, with a fairly rough life being given a weapon that is given specifically to those who inspire fear. No offense to any normal human who had a rough childhood, but teenagers don't exactly inspire fear. And given the previously given explanation as to how the kid got the ring, it would likely not have been yellow, as yellow is associated with inspiring fear not being fearless.

Then there is the MAJOR personality change to a recognizable villain who has never (to my knowledge) shown pity in his quest for power. Killing (or trying to kill) people he had once called friend, even lover, if they threatened his chances. So to take pity upon some random kid who wasn't scared of him, especially to give that kid power, is as out of character for Sinestro as eating human flesh would be for Mickey Mouse. If nothing else Sinestro would be more inclined to simply vaporize the kid to eliminate another possible green lantern.

Of course the biggest hole I can see is in the previously mentioned explanation; Where it was heavily suggested that Sinestro met the "Gold Lantern" while wielding multiple spectrum rings and fghting the other lantern corps. So the whole ignorant of the others is a MASSIVE issue.
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@Dnafein Ok, so what happened was this:

*Sinestro is Yellow Lantern and stole 1 of each of the other Lantern Rings and took them to Earth.
*Sinestro released them on Earth with a special little modification that both masked them from other Lanterns as well as bound them to Earth, so they had to find a host on the planet.
*Martin was the first one found and he was found by the Green ring.
*Sinestro tricked Martin and the others that the rings chose into believing that they were 1 big team that weilded the 7 magic rings of power, with him as the leader. They tracked down all of the members and grew closer to each other as they did so.
*After the others were found, he tricked Mongol into attacking Earth in order to claim the Rings for himself to make him into a Lantern god of sorts. This set up a situation where the other Lanterns were forced to combine their powers and, with all ring colour weilders in agreement, they summoned the White Lantern ring and gave it to Sinestro.
*Having everything he needed, he dropped all pretenses, easily defeated Mongol, told them "By the way, i fucking hate every single one of you and thanks for the White Ring, taking War-World and going to conquer the universe now, since no-one can stop me."
*Martin attacked him, but having lost all sense of reason at this betrayal, the Green ring sensed that he was no longer fighting on will-power and abandoned him.
*Sinestro found that Martins will to fight him, even after the Green ring abandoned him, caused him for the briefest of nanoseconds the ever so slightest twinge of fear that "Good thing the Green Ring abandoned him or he might have actually killed me with that kind of willpower." It took the Yellow ring a little time, but after a few days, it picked up on that and bound itself to the one that made its former master feel fear.
*He is now looking for purpose, something to do with this power.

Sinestro has always feared what he can't control. That's why he took Arin Sur's death so badly, that's why Paralax was drawn to him and why he became the champion for yellow. He saw in Martin a great power that he couldn't control, but he let Martin live, because he was determined to prove that he had overcome that fear. Plus, they had developed a sort of "Student-teacher bond" that Sinestro didn't want to admit to, but also didn't let stand in his way. Sinestro won. That's not a great departure from his personality. This is Martin dealing with having his ass thoroughly handed to him by Sinestro.
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Ok found it!!
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@Dnafein I dont need help, but thanks. I'm capable of doing it on my own. I was just not able to work on it because of work.

@mattmanganon there's no reason to keep arguing though. The gm said no. S/he told you that s/he didn't want lanterns in the rp, so there's literally no case for you to be making. Again if you have a problem with that decision, then find another DC rp to join.
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@Sonnenschein I don't get this argument. "If you question your GM, that means that you don't respect them!" Surely questioning your GM is showing them respect. "I respect you enough to disagree with you and tell you why i disagree with you, because i think you are a reasonable person who can reasoned with."

It's not like i've been told no multiple times and continue to beat a dead horse. I was told "No, i don't want Lanterns" and i have given a good reason why i feel Lanterns aren't as detrimental to the RP as they believe. If/when Rumiko weighs that argument and still says no, then i'll drop it.
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@mattmanganon As I said previously, A major personality change to a structured villain causing them to behave out of character. Additionally, the indepth explaination doesn't alter the facts that the other Corps would be aware of Martin and the others Sinestro used; Likely as soon as Mongul knew, at the very least they would know the moment the White Lantern was summoned.

Of course your explanation added an additional issue. You imply that in his anger he attacked Sinestro. Yet he was given a yellow ring later, but not the red ring then? That doesn't seem to fit. Enough rage to attack someone you essentially gave everything to because they took what you gave them? Thats obviously enough to merit the red ring. Of course that would require the all powerful villain to care about his minions and not vaporize them to eliminate threats....
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@mattmanganon Your argument makes no sense, but okay. If they say no, then they don't want you to do whatever it is that you want to do. That's a good enough reason to NOT do it. Lol. I don't care if you THINK you have good enough reason to do it because if the gm says no, then that's that. That's the end of discussion. It doesn't make it an open discussion about how and why you can seemingly justify your choice.
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@Sonnenschein

to be frank the constant argument form you and Dnafein doesn't help any, best to just take a step back and let Rumiko and matt talk about the situation themselves and settle the full argument themselves.
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Tell me if anything you would like me to modify/change of course, as I did let my mind go wild especially when working on the history.
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@Dnafein 1) I don't see how "Coming up with a machiavellian scheme to conquer the universe and ultimately letting his opponent live in order to feed his omnipotent arrogance" is somehow "Out of character" for Sinestro. I mean, i thought that was pretty much his main character motivation. "I want to rule the universe because everyone else has proven that they are incapable. Only i am strong enough, wise enough and have the will to bring the entire universe under a single banner" And anyone that says "Sinestro can't feel fear" clearly doesn't understand the character. Sinestro feels fear because he is the Champion of Fear. To become the champion of a colour, you have to be able to feel your emotion, allow it to flow through you, but for you to be in ultimate control of it and be able to instill it in others with the greatest of ease. That's why Hal is the Champion of Green, Attrocitus is the Champion of Red, etc. What does he fear the most? Anything he can't control. Death, for example. Arin died and he was powerless to stop it.
2) Again, because Sinestro had abandoned his Yellow ring in favour of White. The Red ring had its user, the Yellow didn't. Sinestro isn't cold and unfeeling. He cares about people. Hell, the reason that he's the villain that he is is because he loved Arin far too much that her death completely broke him. Again, he had to act caring towards Martin in order to foster that trust and, as proven with Hal, all the best lies have the truth sprinkled in there somewhere. Despite being a crazed despot, Sinestro has proven that he still does care for Halas a partner, as he cared for Arin and Abin. His only real regret is that Hal won't join him. And again, the reason he didn't kill Martin is because of Sinestro's single greatest weakness that defeats him on every single occasion.

Sinesto is the single most arrogant being in the universe. If he killed Martin as he stood there powerless then he'd have to admit that he feared him even a little. That isn't something he was willing to do.
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